JCookie Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was referring to the seeded list, and with the possible exception of Owen, none are good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzer Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 The seeds were based on 2010 Averages. The semi final was also based on 2010 Averages. Unfortunately no track was able to stage a 2nd Semi Final prior to the Final. Regards Phil Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Un Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I would like to know why Tai is excluded from getting a place in the World Under 21 Championship? Has he decided that he does not want to race in it this year or is there some other answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 The seeds were based on 2010 Averages. The semi final was also based on 2010 Averages. Unfortunately no track was able to stage a 2nd Semi Final prior to the Final. Regards Phil Morris I think you & the BSPA have done what they can having qualifiers for the sake of it where everybody has too imo will not improve the riders who are able to compete. In GB we have an ever decreasing number of competitors have done & probably will do for a while. Until GB as a collective produces enough riders of sufficient quality the number of qualifiers is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) I would like to know why Tai is excluded from getting a place in the World Under 21 Championship? Has he decided that he does not want to race in it this year or is there some other answer? He's not excluded at all! He's seeded direct to the second semi-final where the top scorer from the British Final at Lakeside excluding himself plus Josh Auty & Joe Haines (seeded direct to first semi at Herxheim) will join him. Edited March 8, 2011 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) If the winner doesn't come from Woffinden or Auty then it'll be a major surprise. On the BSPA list, everyone after possibly Newman is not even good enough for the PL! Surely the criteria to be an under 21semifinalist is to be under 21. Standard doesn't come into it, apart from the selection process dictating the highest averaged riders are seeded through. I do think it is quite sad that all under 21's are unable to take part and the competion has been subject to a selection process. Best of luck to all the boys I'm sure they will give their all !!!! Edited March 8, 2011 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Surely the criteria to be an under 21semifinalist is to be under 21. Standard doesn't come into it, apart from the selection process dictating the highest averaged riders are seeded through. I do think it is quite sad that all under 21's are unable to take part and the competion has been subject to a selection process. Best of luck to all the boys I'm sure they will give their all !!!! What would be the point in a novice racing tai or even someone of a lower standard who has to qualify with less than a weeks experience. You have to draw the line somewhere. A competitions appeal or point depends on its standards to an extent. Edited March 8, 2011 by shirlmeister general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 The worrying decline of youth speedway continues. We used to have 3 qualifiers, then we reduced it to 2 semi finals, now we are down to one "semi final" and the final. There are a number of clubs trying to help to young British riders, but unless there is a National setup as well the decline will continue. We must invest in the youth NOW. Totally agree with your comments but if all eligible riders were invited we might scrape together two semi finals and a final but certainly not three qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 What would be the point in a novice racing tai or even someone of a lower standard who has to qualify with less than a weeks experience. You have to draw the line somewhere. A competitions appeal or point depends on its standards to an extent. True to a certain extent,but look at Luke Chessell last year,dont think he had ridden a competative meeting but came very close to going through to the final,same with Steve Worrall,who made it and went on to score a creditable 5 points in the final Richie Worrall is reserve at stoke and id take a bet off anyone he would finish in the top 6 at stoke if was given the chance seems a shame that they wont be given the chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Can't believe Richie Worrall is not in this sem-final.....one of Scunny's best discoveries!!!! but then not surprised I'm fast losing patience with the policy we have with our youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Can't believe Richie Worrall is not in this sem-final.....one of Scunny's best discoveries!!!! but then not surprised I'm fast losing patience with the policy we have with our youngsters. Wizzer had stated it is based on 2010 averages, Richie Worral doesn't have one. Hard luck but there is always next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I agree, averages are the best way to do it but its staggering that not one track could find a date to run a second semi final. Little wonder the conveyor belt is drying up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 True to a certain extent,but look at Luke Chessell last year,dont think he had ridden a competative meeting but came very close to going through to the final,same with Steve Worrall,who made it and went on to score a creditable 5 points in the final Richie Worrall is reserve at stoke and id take a bet off anyone he would finish in the top 6 at stoke if was given the chance seems a shame that they wont be given the chance I do agree with that, there are always exceptions. I also think richie would do better than a lot of those named based on what I saw of him last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Although yet to be confirmed, it appears that Tai Woffinden may himself have opted out of this year's World Under 21 Championship. If that turns out to be true then two places for the semi-finals, in addition to those already assured for Josh Auty and Joe Haines, may be up for grabs from the British Under 21 Final at Lakeside. Edited March 9, 2011 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Although yet to be confirmed, it appears that Tai Woffinden may himself have opted out of this year's World Under 21 Championship. If that turns out to be true then two places for the semi-finals, in addition to those already assured for Josh Auty and Joe Haines, may be up for grabs from the British Under 21 Final at Lakeside. I can partly understand that if he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I notice that next week end when this meeting takes place Sheffield are at Rye House With Birks down to ride at stoke and sheff being there,does he ride at Stoke or at Rye??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I notice that next week end when this meeting takes place Sheffield are at Rye House With Birks down to ride at stoke and sheff being there,does he ride at Stoke or at Rye??? Birks will have to ride at Stoke with Rye House's Ben Morley who is in the same situation. Ben Hopwood already named as Ben Morleys replacement for Saturdays match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.10232 According to this Ben Morley and Ollie Rayson have withdrawn. So Richie Worrall and Jaimie Pickard move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Is anyone able to text from Stoke tomorrow (Saturday) for the semi-final. It would be greatly appreciated by all PM me here or on the updates site (btw my updates name doesn't have the 15 in it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipster Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 does any know how much it is to get in please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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