Aces51 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) So you would consider comparing someone to Steve Shovlar is a smear ? what does that say about shovlar . You are not dealing with the facts again. I did not say that, it was obviously intended by you as a smear and that was my point, nothing to do with whether it was a valid comment. I agree with Steve on some issues and not others, pretty much the same as I do with a lot of posters. Edited December 28, 2010 by Aces51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 You are not dealing with the facts again. When has he ever? His view or no view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 When has he ever? His view or no view. You should'nt talk about yourself like that Steve . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Yes Steve. You sussed me. only 30 years as a rider, manager, sponsor and very little else. I'm a complete novice at this. Arise sir John Harry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 You are not dealing with the facts again. I did not say that, it was obviously intended by you as a smear and that was my point, nothing to do with whether it was a valid comment. I agree with Steve on some issues and not others, pretty much the same as I do with a lot of posters. Well I say you did and it's my view or no view. you should know that Steve just told you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Arise sir John Harry? do you mean John Harrhy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) Well I say you did and it's my view or no view. you should know that Steve just told you Ok, I give up, there's no point if those who have a different view can't even try to put forward a reasoned argument to support what they say. You could just say that you have re-read it and I am right, there is no embarassement in admitting you might be wrong occasionally. Edited December 28, 2010 by Aces51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 do you mean John Harrhy ? Yes but just guessing! The shamek of the 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 do you mean John Harrhy ? John Harrhy was riding in the 1970's so it would be 40 not 30 years as a rider etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprog1 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) ....except Grachan has already proved that in theory it's best to have seven riders of equal ability (i.e. 7 x 5.71). All Grachan has proved (and so has SCB come to that) is that looking at composite averages in isolation is meaningless when assessing team strengths. You have to look at the home and away averages as separate entities but take them both into account when team building. A rider who averages 5.72 at home and 5.70 away is in no sense comparable to one who averages 7,72 at home and 3.72 away. If your No 3 and No 4 both average 5.72 the chances are that one or other has scored a lot of bonus points team riding the other one home. A riders average is a loose guide to his ability, nothing more. Come to think of it, there's no point in signing a No1 on an 8.39 average if he only scores 4 in the play-off final. Might as well sign a 4-point Pole Edited December 28, 2010 by Custer Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no-brakes-uk Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Ok, I give up, there's no point if those who have a different view can't even try to put forward a reasoned argument to support what they say. You could just say that you have re-read it and I am right, there is no embarassement in admitting you might be wrong occasionally. Well I laughed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Just cracked open a tin of celebrations oh I am getting so fat over Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 They also stick together in a swarm following a 'leader' who takes them to their hives Funny I've never really understood the relevance of the nickname before...but this winter has really explained a lot! ........... and then we make honey that tastes................... hold on a minute while i savour it. aaaaaahhhhh so sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 It was nice to stick to the facts for a while, wasn't it? The simple truth is that, short of a FoI request (which would probably be turned down on commercial confidentiality) we'll never know what Kings Lynn were offered to come up. However, it's a very naive person who thinks they got the same deal as everyone else. And it's fun to speculate. I've had a few to's and fro's with Aces51 on here in the past few days, and he's fair-minded and willing to agree to disagree. This puts him leagues above certain others of a lupine or privateering persuasion. What I really want to know is when is Shovlar off to Barbados? Or is it a moveable feast, ie when the BSPA announce Coventry's return for 2011? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenCook Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 That'd be crap. Do you know how I'd beat that team? 6 6 6 6 6 6 3 My top 6 would not drop a point would they? They'd beat everyone of your riders. My number 7 wouldn't beat anyone, but he'd only have 3 rides s I'd have three last and a load of wins and pair wins. My team would win 69-21 or 69-23 if you use a TR, but, I'd stop you using a succesful TR, I'd put my number 7 in heats 1, 2 and 4 and then replace my number 7 with my number 6 in his programmed rides I'd be a point below the limit and would beat Grachans team 69-21, based on my stronger 1,2 and 6 (plus 3,4 and 5). Quite right...........I did point out to Grachan that: 6.17 6.17 6.17 6.17 6.16 6.16 3 ...would beat his team & yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 1577 Posts of drivel latter, and the beat goes on. Still, in a couple of weeks time you'l definately have some thing to talk about. And you never know it might just make a record for a thread!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 1577 Posts of drivel latter, and the beat goes on. Still, in a couple of weeks time you'l definately have some thing to talk about. And you never know it might just make a record for a thread!!! Eh, it passes the time. And there have been a few genuinely good points made, in between everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) What I really want to know is when is Shovlar off to Barbados? Or is it a moveable feast, ie when the BSPA announce Coventry's return for 2011? Off on Thursday. All packed and now looking forward to a nice holiday in the sun with my family. And for your information I would welcome Coventry and Peterborrough back no problem, as long as its under the same rules of the other 8 EL clubs. Edited December 28, 2010 by Steve Shovlar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crikeythatsfast Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 It was nice to stick to the facts for a while, wasn't it? The simple truth is that, short of a FoI request (which would probably be turned down on commercial confidentiality) we'll never know what Kings Lynn were offered to come up. However, it's a very naive person who thinks they got the same deal as everyone else. And it's fun to speculate. I've had a few to's and fro's with Aces51 on here in the past few days, and he's fair-minded and willing to agree to disagree. This puts him leagues above certain others of a lupine or privateering persuasion. What I really want to know is when is Shovlar off to Barbados? Or is it a moveable feast, ie when the BSPA announce Coventry's return for 2011? The KL fans have been told that they are making the move up at their own expense, along with other fees paid to every EL club by SKY and of course sponsorship. The KL fans trust in the KL promotion, unless of course you can prove otherwise, they have to take the promotion at their word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 The KL fans have been told that they are making the move up at their own expense, along with other fees paid to every EL club by SKY and of course sponsorship. The KL fans trust in the KL promotion, unless of course you can prove otherwise, they have to take the promotion at their word. The thing is while everyone else can see there's not a problem, all certain Coventry fans can see is that it's one huge conspiracy against them. Sandhu is god and Trump is the best promoter out there in their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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