Steve Shovlar Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Steve, See ladyluck's post http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=59785&view=findpost&p=1852524 Or will you conveniently ignore it as it doesn't support your current spat with Colin. I just wish you two could take your spat off the forum until either of you have something either new constructive to post. ATB Dave I have nothing more to say on the subject. I proved my point and have moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Steve, See ladyluck's post http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=59785&view=findpost&p=1852524 Or will you conveniently ignore it as it doesn't support your current spat with Colin. I just wish you two could take your spat off the forum until either of you have something either new constructive to post. ATB Dave I've just read it. Sandhu offered the BSPA mediation. The BSPA didn't go to Sandhu. This backs up SS. Edited December 26, 2010 by crazy jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Steve, See ladyluck's post http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=59785&view=findpost&p=1852524 Or will you conveniently ignore it as it doesn't support your current spat with Colin. I just wish you two could take your spat off the forum until either of you have something either new constructive to post. ATB Dave I've held back Dave as I figured you were busy over Xmas but I must confess surprise that you have not (as yet anyway!) produced the statistical data appertaining to this particular spat between Messrs Shovlar & Cooke e.g. a. How many posts each of them has made on the thread b. Respective averages in relation to posts per day on the subject c. Increase/decrease in average posts per day by each since thread started d. biggest daily rise / fall in number of posts per page by each over pages 1 to 30 inclusive and subsequently pages 31 to 60 inclusive..... etc., etc. etc! Edited December 26, 2010 by Bryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 How on earth would you know if someone on here had a idea or not ? as you don't know who they are Stop being so stupid . Because in my experience the people who know things dont post them . If you are seriously suggesting that hundreds of people know whats going on including many on here then i will treat your post with the contempt it deserves. I know SEVERAL people in the know and have read NOTHING from them in opinions - so your suggestion is clearly flawed. Ill leave you and several others thinking you believing you know whats been happening. Personally - ill wait for a TRUTHFUL release from the official sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc61 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I've held back Dave as I figured you were busy over Xmas but I must confess surprise that you have not (as yet anyway!) produced the statistical data appertaining to this particular spat between Messrs Shovlar & Cooke e.g. a. How many posts each of them has made on the thread b. Respective averages in relation to posts per day on the subject c. Increase/decrease in average posts per day by each since thread started d. biggest daily rise / fall in number of posts per page by each over pages 1 to 30 inclusive and subsequently pages 31 to 60 inclusive..... etc., etc. etc! have you taken into account that one or both may have deliberately reduced the number of posts made over the last few days in order to get their average posts per day down. increasing their posts per day might mean they cant get a forum place next season. please god lets get them posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I've held back Dave as I figured you were busy over Xmas but I must confess surprise that you have not (as yet anyway!) produced the statistical data appertaining to this particular spat between Messrs Shovlar & Cooke e.g............ ......etc., etc. etc! Hi Taffmeister, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I only produce stats for things that are relevant and/or interesting! ATB Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Please supply evidence to back up this statement. Why should CC change the habits of a lifetime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Why should CC change the habits of a lifetime? Tonight I clearly proved CC was talking garbage. If he is saying he is right, then he is calling Sandhu a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletor Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 http://www.coventrybees.co/news.php?extend.1432.1 Read the second paragraph. Sandhu said he has asked for mediation. We can all see it except for Colin Cooke. Well ive read it and i can't see where he "asked " for mediation it clearly states that he "offered " it . I think you should say sorry to Colin Cooke as your wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Tonight I clearly proved CC was talking garbage. If he is saying he is right, then he is calling Sandhu a liar. Well done you, I bet you feel really proud! Now if you two could refrain from posting your personal spat on the forum then it would be much appreciated, no one else cares who is right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 I've had more mature conversation with my cousins tonight, they're all under the age of 13 too. Most of the last 3 or 4 pages are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) The Pawlicki manipulation shouldn't change because they manipulated beyond all reasonable behaviour. Just my opinion of course. While my opinion is that the BSPA were right to address the Pawlicki situation and I have no argument with their decision (personally, to be fair, I would have calculated Pawlicki's average on the basis of him having four non-scoring rides in the "missed meeting"), I wouldn't say that they "manipulated beyond all reasonable behaviour". They did what just about every other promoter in a similar situation would have done. It's a bit of a sad reflection on the promoters. I've had more mature conversation with my cousins tonight, they're all under the age of 13 too. Most of the last 3 or 4 pages are pathetic. I can't help but wonder if your cousins would reciprocate. Edited December 27, 2010 by ladyluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 The only garbage on this forum is enough to fill the dustbins in the whole of Dorset never mind the 1 near Sherborne. Some people are irked that i'm not backing up my claim with evidence. To do so would betray a trust. Some people here will be decent enough to respect that. Then there are the others.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no-brakes-uk Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Some Coventry ( and Peterborough by the look of it) thkink that the whole rules made at the AGM are going to be scrapped. That couldn't be further from the turth. Teams are already building to 40. That cannot change because the makeup of the riders already signed by some teams might have been very different. Plus it was voted in democratically. The PL/EL conversion won't change simply because again many teams have and are building to this rule. The one above 8 rule again shouldn't change. But we will see if it is true that Coventry signed Andersen and Harris and are determined to keep them both. If this is true Coventry are a total disgrace to the sport. Especially when it is well known that at least one other club is struggling to sign a number one. The Pawlicki manipulation shouldn't change because they manipulated beyond all reasonable behaviour. So where does Coventry threaten the BSPA? They want 45 points? They can't have it. Other clubs voted against it simple as that. If they bully the BSPA to change to 45 points while every other club builds to 40, what would that do to the league in 2011? Make it a total joke. Teams should turn up at Brandon with 7 PL 6 pointers as a silent protest for the season. They want the conversion rate returned to 50%? Too late teams are building within the 60% rule. PL clubs won't vote it out because riders such as Gjedde have already been signed. They simply won't get a vote in their favour. The one above 8 rule? Well it could be changed but how do you think the Coventry Bees would be viewed by the remaining 9 clubs and their fans, when possibly two clubs go without a single number one rider? The Pawlicki average manipulation could be overlooked, but I know of several promoters who would be up in arms if he was allowed in on a 4. If Coventry get any of these rules changed to their favour, never again will they be trusted or looked on favourably. Bully boy tactics backed with wealth might win the fight but in the long term they will b=never win the war, and scars will run very deep with many a promoter after all this. Just my opinion of course. The last line pretty much renders everything above it inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no-brakes-uk Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) No. You are now trying to bend the argument you lost. You said the BSPA asked for mediation. That is a lie. Sandhu asked for mediation as proved in the link I gave. He knew that without it there would be no speedway at Brandon in 2011. Colin Cooke is right, you are wrong. Dismissed. Edited December 27, 2010 by no-brakes-uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) The last line pretty much renders everything above it inaccurate. Would be interesting to know who provided the opinion. It reads like a BSPA press release and I've heard bits of that recently at various times. Edited December 27, 2010 by Crump99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Colin Cooke is right. You are wrong. Dismissed. Colin Cooke is right, you are wrong. Dismissed. at least someone has the intelligence to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Some people are irked that i'm not backing up my claim with evidence. Why break the habits of a lifetime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) Why break the habits of a lifetime? what's wrong with quoting all of the post BFD? of course, it would break the habit of a lifetime. Edited December 27, 2010 by colincooke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 of course, it would break the habit of a lifetime. Yep, I've never known you to back up any of your claims yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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