Steve Shovlar Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Just trying to make you less of a hate-figure No I am quite happy thank you. I won't alter my posts because some Coventry fans on here struggle to sling a sentence together without firing off abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Assuming the BBC report to be accurate - and good if it means Coventry returning under BSPA rules and regs! - I wonder who 'leaked' the news to BBC Coventry & Warwicks?? One can only presume one of the Bees representatives!! Once again not the correct way to go about things is it - whatever has been agreed/mediated/compromised I am certain that there would have been agreement from both sides for the 'official' statement to be made at a specific time by the BSPA. Instead, somebody 'in the know' has already gone back on that agreement. So much for trust, dignity, agreements etc! Yet another assumption used to have a cheap shot at the Bees promotion. You can have no actual knowledge who it was who told the BBC, but don't let that stop you from putting the boot in eh! Regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I'm not so fussy. Premier League Plymouth will do. but he could double down and still be a bees rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Geez, only took 3/4 of an hour for my daily dose of chuckles - in case anyone's missed anything, here we go: pure gold is actually orange in colour and not gold! No it isn't. If you'd ever done any prospecting you'd know that; obviously you haven't, so why lie? I agree - proper metallic gold is probably more costly and harder to get! Nah, Lupus about 100km down the road from me near Pine Creek you can just stub your toes on the stuff - sometimes! That is most definitely orange. Oh, no it isn't! the triuth will come out soon then, i suspect Won't be from your direction though, will it? However, for a while now we have had Coventry fans, together with sundry others decrying the lack of transparency in the running and decision-making of the BSPA. They grind their teeth over the spectre of shady backroom meetings and yet one shady backroom meeting later all is well with the world. That's Hypocrisy in action, LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) But Wait, there's more! Well surprise surprise, Coventry are back in the EL. Don't expect the press release to be hard on the BSPA though. Pawlicki on 5 seems like a fair result to me and a change in the conversion rate seems like it was a decent compromise. Game, set and match Sandhu. Absolute rubbish as usual! Absolutely. The very people who purport to hate tawdry backroom deals suddenly engage in a tawdry backroom deal and suddenly all thoughts about integrity are out of the window. Didn't you just say that? I consider myself a fair minded Speedway fan Yeah, I'm pretty fair-minded, too.. No they are not Edited December 21, 2010 by BigFatDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Barrett Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sandhu and Frost have given the BSPA the option of going to court. The BSPA have obviously been advised that it would not be wise for them to go down that route. Quite right to, there would be a lengthy delay, ultimately, IF it got to the inside of a court room, no one would win apart from a few smug, fat, lawyers, who are second on the "parasites'" list to Bankers for screwing the last penny out of people. The BSPA would be bankrupted, Sandhu and Frost as well, and probably quite a few promoters also would be financially damaged. that in turn would damage the sport and may result in other clubs having to close their doors. is that what these two want because they can not accept the majority vote of a democratic committee, irrespective of the perceived rights or wrongs of that vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 ..........and finally: A fair minded fan would be one that want to see the rules adhered to that were voted in at the AGM, not one that uses bully boy tactics to gain an unfair advantage over the rest of the league. Got that right. Hopefully, Sandhu wll learn from this debacle, and be open, honest and transparent in future..I have my doubts though... Words of wisdom, from one so young. It always makes me laugh when people who are rabid, myopic and biased accuse other people of being rabid, myopic and biased. Just a thought Welcome to the EL section of the BSF, EW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastern wolf Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Quite right to, there would be a lengthy delay, ultimately, IF it got to the inside of a court room, no one would win apart from a few smug, fat, lawyers, who are second on the "parasites'" list to Bankers for screwing the last penny out of people. The BSPA would be bankrupted, Sandhu and Frost as well, and probably quite a few promoters also would be financially damaged. that in turn would damage the sport and may result in other clubs having to close their doors. is that what these two want because they can not accept the majority vote of a democratic committee, irrespective of the perceived rights or wrongs of that vote? Unfortunately Sandhu and Frost probably wouldn't be bankrupted. This is why rich bullies get their way so often in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Quite right to, there would be a lengthy delay, ultimately, IF it got to the inside of a court room, no one would win apart from a few smug, fat, lawyers, who are second on the "parasites'" list to Bankers for screwing the last penny out of people. The BSPA would be bankrupted, Sandhu and Frost as well, and probably quite a few promoters also would be financially damaged. that in turn would damage the sport and may result in other clubs having to close their doors. is that what these two want because they can not accept the majority vote of a democratic committee, irrespective of the perceived rights or wrongs of that vote? The whole point is that there WAS no " democratic commitee" Mugabe was voted it. It was hardly democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Unfortunately Sandhu and Frost probably wouldn't be bankrupted. This is why rich bullies get their way so often in this world. They also are able to stand up to other bullies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastern wolf Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) They also are able to stand up to other bullies I hope you're not suggesting that everybody who didn't vote for the "democratically-elected" ConDem coalition should take a mardy pill and not play any more? Withold our taxes perhaps? Or better still those that didn't vote should form a new government. Edited December 21, 2010 by eastern wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I hope you're not suggesting that everybody who didn't vote for the "democratically-elected" ConDem coalition should take a mardy pill and not play any more? Withold our taxes perhaps? Yeah why not, nothing like a bit of anarchy to focus a governments attention!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I hope you're not suggesting that everybody who didn't vote for the "democratically-elected" ConDem coalition should take a mardy pill and not play any more? Withold our taxes perhaps? Or better still those that didn't vote should form a new government. Actually, off-topic, but I'd absolutely suggest direct action against their policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sandhu and Frost have given the BSPA the option of going to court. The BSPA have obviously been advised that it would not be wise for them to go down that route. Sandhu, presumably on advice of his legal-counsel, offered mediation, so perhaps it's Sandhu who was advised that the legal route might not be wise, whereas the BSPA may have been influenced to negotiate by external bodies such as Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastern wolf Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Actually, off-topic, but I'd absolutely suggest direct action against their policies Problem is mate it'd be stamped down because it goes against "democracy". We always end up having to accept it. Democracy certainly has its failings. The BSPA has its failings, no question. But that's the system we live under both in government and the BSPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Assuming Cov (and hopefully Pboro) both return to the EL for 2011 whether a compromise has been made or the original AGM rules remain - surely we should accept the fact that the outcome has finally been resolved 'amicably' and that all EL members of the BSPA have kissed and made up. I would suggest that should this be the case we should all be able to live with it too...and if so, roll on March 2011 (despite the points limit)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Assuming Cov (and hopefully Pboro) both return to the EL for 2011 whether a compromise has been made or the original AGM rules remain - surely we should accept the fact that the outcome has finally been resolved 'amicably' and that all EL members of the BSPA have kissed and made up. I would suggest that should this be the case we should all be able to live with it too...and if so, roll on March 2011 (despite the points limit)... Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Assuming Cov (and hopefully Pboro) both return to the EL for 2011 whether a compromise has been made or the original AGM rules remain - surely we should accept the fact that the outcome has finally been resolved 'amicably' and that all EL members of the BSPA have kissed and made up. I would suggest that should this be the case we should all be able to live with it too...and if so, roll on March 2011 (despite the points limit)... Neither of the three parties is going to put out a press release stating "hostile", "begrudgingly", "undemocraticaly", "against all that we believe in" etc, are they? Whether Peterborough are back or not we don't know. We hope there's ten teams in the EL next season without a doubt. But I just hope for the sports sake that the rules made at the AGM are adhered to and no fudge has been made to bring these two clubs back into the fold. That would do the sport no good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Assuming Cov (and hopefully Pboro) both return to the EL for 2011 whether a compromise has been made or the original AGM rules remain - surely we should accept the fact that the outcome has finally been resolved 'amicably' and that all EL members of the BSPA have kissed and made up. I would suggest that should this be the case we should all be able to live with it too...and if so, roll on March 2011 (despite the points limit)... I would just love that to be the case. Then we can get back to slagging off each others team building plans and generally baiting Shovvy et al about actual speedway stuff rather than the politics of it. Personally I think the sooner this stuff can be put to bed the better. Let's just hope against hope that the optimistic noises from Coventry radio prove to be correct and we are not being led up the garden path !! Regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_boon Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 But I just hope for the sports sake that the rules made at the AGM are adhered to and no fudge has been made to bring these two clubs back into the fold. That would do the sport no good at all. So you're now speaking for the whole of SPEEDWAY, as well as its "fair-minded" fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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