Starman2006 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 To sum up - I think that the unfair Play Off System is to blame for most, if not all, of the strife in the Sport at the moment. PLEASE BSPA drop the Play Offs and let's get back to some sanity. I have put a lot of thought in to this - and - I am sure it is the right way to go. You couldn't have put much thought into it, you really want the season to finish theoretically in August? Then what you going to do, twiddle your thumbs for the next 7-8 months. Your mad, the play off's are good for the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 unless the reported embargo is correct, then the bspa wont let him sign for lynn. no one on here knows anything as yet He has signed for Kings Lynn. Peterborrough let him sign and there was no protection in place. Check out the Kings Lynn website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Or Belle Vue? possible but he's made statements he doesn't want the travelling now he's purchased a house in newborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) If you mean the TV money then yes, but that is not a bribe, any team joining the EL would get that. Or are you suggesting there was something more? No of course not ...after years of not wantng to be in The El and not applying for it t the Agm, two days later they change there mind for no reason Edited December 19, 2010 by orion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I notice theres a block of empty seats at Sports personallity of the year, wouldn't be Coventrys by any chance!!! See Coventry didn't win Team of the year, or didn't even get a look in, as i said, a block of enpty seats, couldn't be Coventrys could they?? Perhaps they were stopped at the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Only if they have a case..... If Coventry and Peterborough win then clearly every other promotion would have a case, not the least King's Lynn, who moved into the EL on the basis of the rules as laid out at the BSPA AGM following the "walk out". It is increasingly obvious that the only realistic option is for the door to be firmly closed on Coventry and Peterborough. They made their decision at the BSPA AGM. There should be no way back for 2011 and certainly not at the expense of King's Lynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc61 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 He has signed for Kings Lynn. Peterborrough let him sign and there was no protection in place. Check out the Kings Lynn website. so now you are saying plymouth are liars.their website reported the embargo on panthers riders. who knows whos right steve we will await the outcome of the various meetings because i doubt there will be just one, then we will know the truth and or the results. If kenny moves he moves, if there is an embargo he doesnt, we are only going round in circles because you think you are right and i think there is much more to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 no one has stunk this winter out more than you. you have ranted and posted your spite and bile . hoping against hope that some of your rantings would come true , bad news for you the exact opposite is about to happen . sorry you.ve had your christmas ruined , but think of the benfits for next year .all the ready made excuses when your team of cheats and chokers let you down again So as usual you have absolutely nothing to say. Just more arrogance and drivel. Your arrogance holds no bounds and is part of the reason why Coventry are viewed with utter distain by every fair minded speedway fan. As for ruining Chritmas? Do me a favour! I am off in a few days time (weather permitting) to a much hotter climate with my family. The last thing I will be thinking about is the embarrasment which is Coventry speedway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) There seems to be a lot of bitterness on here from Poole Supporters - I wonder why??? Play Off Final perhaps - I think that this all (over a number of Threads) backs up my argument that the Play Offs are UNFAIR. Poole were properly the League Champions this year - Coventry were Play Off Champions. All that has happened this year is that a mid - table Team (Coventry) beat the best Team in the League by a country mile (Poole) in the Play Off Final. What is the result of all this??? Trouble at the AGM some Promoters wielding daggers, others doing a runner. I maintain that without the bloody Play Off System all this CRAP could have been avoided. The BSPA are at fault - THEY sold their souls to SKY and brought in the Play Offs. Before anyone says that everyone knew the Rules before the Season started - this is true - BUT - Speedway is certainly paying the price of those Rules now. Supporters will also say that the Play Offs are exciting and well attended, ALL true - but surely a Competition run for the same Teams as those who qualify currently for the Play Offs would attract just as many Supporters AND be just as exciting. Obviously the big advantage of this would be that Promoters who had won the League FAIR AND SQUARE would know that they were League Champions as a RIGHT - therefore no need for all the backbiting, backstabbing and hostility that seems so prevalent at present. The Supporters too would not feel so robbed of their rightful delight in winning the League. To sum up - I think that the unfair Play Off System is to blame for most, if not all, of the strife in the Sport at the moment. PLEASE BSPA drop the Play Offs and let's get back to some sanity. I have put a lot of thought in to this - and - I am sure it is the right way to go. the playoffs actually proved who the best team of 2010 actually were , ask yourself how poole got so far ahead in a league with regulations to ensure a level playing field . and how the promoter of that team knew exactly which loopholes needed closing before another team took advantage of them , when you have thought it through you will see why the playoff winners were the deserved champions Edited December 19, 2010 by speedibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave22 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 You couldn't have put much thought into it, you really want the season to finish theoretically in August? Then what you going to do, twiddle your thumbs for the next 7-8 months. Your mad, the play off's are good for the sport. You would be champions though Starman! .... but i have to agree with you, Swindon had a "dead match" with the infamous Coventry debacle...to many of those would kill the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Iim sorry but I cant agree with that, not are we losing two of the greatest names in speedway, but the stadiums where we hold a lot of the big events would be lost as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Iim sorry but I cant agree with that, not are we losing two of the greatest names in speedway, but the stadiums where we hold a lot of the big events would be lost as well. Nobody wants to se either club close down. We would want them both in the EL, but on the terms of the bSPA, not under Coventrys terms because of a legal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 the playoffs actually proved who the best team of 2010 actually were , ask yourself how poole got so far ahead in a league with regulations to ensure a level playing field . and how the promoter of that team knew exactly which loopholes needed closing before another team took advantage of them , when you have thought it through you will see why the playoff winners were the deserved champions Utter clattrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) So very true. I spend a lot of hard earned cash travelling the country to watch this sport. None of it will be going to Coventry. I'm sure you won,t be missed Edited December 19, 2010 by speedibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I'm sure you won,t be missed And I am sure they would like to know that one of their so called fans is telling away fans they won't be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 You couldn't have put much thought into it, you really want the season to finish theoretically in August? Then what you going to do, twiddle your thumbs for the next 7-8 months. Your mad, the play off's are good for the sport. If you read my Post properly - you would see that I suggested a Competition made up of those who had qualified for the Play Offs - in simple language, so you can understand: the Teams who are under the current Play Off System would play in a seperate Competition. It COULD be called the League Cup. The Trophy (Cup) would be competed for by the Teams over the SAME NUMBER OF MATCHES as the Play Offs. Had it been in operation THIS Season - Poole would be League Champions and Coventry would be League Cup Winners. Now I have tried to explain things as simply as I can to you - as I see them. NOT "mad" just an alternative viewpoint to yours. I could call you a lot of names too Starman2006 - but what would that achieve??? Even MORE hostility on here. I think there is enough of that already - dont you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 the playoffs actually proved who the best team of 2010 actually were , ask yourself how poole got so far ahead in a league with regulations to ensure a level playing field . and how the promoter of that team knew exactly which loopholes needed closing before another team took advantage of them , when you have thought it through you will see why the playoff winners were the deserved champions No one has said that Cov were not deserved champions. However the loophole which was exploited by Cov to ultimately defeat Poole had to be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Agree. If I was a Belle Vue fan but I would be just as vocal as I am now. If Coventry win, the whole sport loses. Because all a team will have to do is make a legal threat to get their own way. [/quote Only if they have a case..... Exactly, just means BSPA will have to act within the law in future. Not really a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Iim sorry but I cant agree with that, not are we losing two of the greatest names in speedway, but the stadiums where we hold a lot of the big events would be lost as well. not so many at coventry in recent times ,since sandhu stopped being fairy godmother (like the ochiltrees were for years ) and stopped letting the BSPA use his stadium on the cheap to hold their prestige events . after yet another not in the interests of some promoters ruling was brought into force by the boys club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 No we should expect to have the Professionalism of somebody like Colin Horton I agree but he is not still involved in the running of a club. Sorry but there is right way to announce club news and whatever you may think of anyone else its NOT through Facebook Not really sure what this has to do with that bloke anyway. Its Rossiter that was the unprofessional one or would you be happy that all yoru clubs PR is done through Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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