jeffster Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Why blame Poole collectively, when only one person has posted this? Problem is, Steve is so damn myopically biased when it comes to Poole, and is also very quick to have a dig at other teams all the time, that Poole fans in general are "guilty by association". Thats not fair I know, but for some reason, Steve has never been able to work out what a dis - service he does Poole speedway and its fans with his normally modus operandi of extremely biased postings...Anyone would be forgiven for thinking that he and Matt had a civil partnership! Steve comes across as idolising Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenTiger666 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 "By the sound of it Coventry jumped the gun twice" So, YET AGAIN, no CONCRETE PROOF, eh Steve? Still, not the first time, and it certainly wont be the last, that you post as yet unproven allegiations against teams other than your beloved Pirates ! You couldn't make it up....Except it seems, you can ! How are Matt and you communicating these days? Phone, Fax, Email, Telepathy? Pillow talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 A No.1 is a rider who has the ability to compete on a level with and beat on a regular basis the top rider of opposing teams. Most experienced fans can identify who is who isn't a No.1. When BV ran in 2007 with Simon Stead as their best rider it was generally acknowledged that he was not a No.1 rider. What number did he have on his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Coventry signed Andersen and Harris. Only they can't use both even though they have signed both. Unless they will be the only team with two number ones above 8 while two clubs won't have one. Teams can sign riders whenever they want and whoever they want! If they cannot be fitted into the team then one of them will have to be released. Simple. Crap on the riders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 From what I can gather both Coventry and Peterborough have been excepted back into the fold but there is a problem with one club not happy at all about what has gone on. Might be beacuase their team plans have been ruined with know no number one or a rule change. Expect an announcement on the 4th January. If Coventry and Peterborough come back we could well lose another EL team who are far from happy with what's going on. Coventry and Peterborough might not be back quite so easily. Hmmmmmmm!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) Problem is, Steve is so damn myopically biased when it comes to Poole, and is also very quick to have a dig at other teams all the time, that Poole fans in general are "guilty by association". Thats not fair I know, but for some reason, Steve has never been able to work out what a dis - service he does Poole speedway and its fans with his normally modus operandi of extremely biased postings...Anyone would be forgiven for thinking that he and Matt had a civil partnership! Steve comes across as idolising Matt. Like many others on here, you seem to be obsessed with Steve, Jeffster; most of your posts including this one are either abusing him or asking him stupid questions. Maybe you should seek help? Edited December 24, 2010 by BigFatDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) Like many others on here, you seem to be obsessed with Steve, Jeffster; most of your posts including this one are either abusing him or asking him stupid questions. Maybe you should seek help? Ah, Aussie Troll ! Same goes for you, BFD ! If you can be bothered to look at your posts, you will see that a fair few of yours recently comment on one of my posts, but thats OK, eh, Cobber ? Setting up a branch of the Dorset Ministry of Propaganda in Darwin next year ? You are very well qualified to do so, after all ! You being a Shovlar apologist really surprises me to be honest, as on our meetings at Swindon you seemed a thoroughly decent chap, but nothing surprises me in speedway any more ! Edited December 24, 2010 by jeffster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javw Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Like many others on here, you seem to be obsessed with Steve, Jeffster; most of your posts including this one are either abusing him or asking him stupid questions. Maybe you should seek help? I don't think it's Jeffster who needs help! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 How have Coventry signed Hans Andersen when he was still in talks with Birmingham up until KK signed for them Steve ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Mod Note -There's been more than enough leeway of late so before you get stuck into each other again please take a look at the following. http://www.speedway-...0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehammer Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Jumped the gun twice before the AGM, did Coventry. If it was athletics they would be disqualified. May not be fully related to this, but then neither are half these posts..... but Steve you may want to check your facts.... You now get disqualified for jumping the gun once .... So if this is the case you may want to have a go at teams that announced signings before the AGM too..... i.e Swindon with Stead, plus a few others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 What number did he have on his back Surely you must know what everyone means by a No.1 and that it is nothing to do with the number on his back. Years ago Peter Collins used to ride at No.5 for BV but he was their No.1 rider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfromcov Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Surely you must know what everyone means by a No.1 and that it is nothing to do with the number on his back. Years ago Peter Collins used to ride at No.5 for BV but he was their No.1 rider. How many real number ones will be riding next year? Three maybe four at most! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Surely you must know what everyone means by a No.1 and that it is nothing to do with the number on his back. Years ago Peter Collins used to ride at No.5 for BV but he was their No.1 rider. In your opinion what average does a so called number one have to have ? It seems at present the BSPA have defined it as 8-01 or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 In your opinion what average does a so called number one have to have ? It seems at present the BSPA have defined it as 8-01 or more I explained in my earlier definition of a No.1. He should be able to compete with and beat on a regular basis the No.1 riders of opposing teams. It follows therefore that, all things being equal, you would expect a No.1 to have a CMA in the same range as the No.1's of other teams. In this case 8.01 or above, although, realistically, you need to analyse matters a little more deeply. For example a rider with an average of say 8.5 may have a home average of 10.5 and an away average of 6.5, he would not be a No.1 in my book because he would not be able to compete at that level away from home. It is also possible that a rider with a sub 8.01 CMA could have a great season and achieve a CMA way above his starting average and become a No.1 but no team should risk basing their season on that sort of gamble because it so rarely succeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 It is also possible that a rider with a sub 8.01 CMA could have a great season and achieve a CMA way above his starting average and become a No.1 but no team should risk basing their season on that sort of gamble because it so rarely succeeds. panthers done it last season, most likely they'll have to do again next season if there accepted back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) I explained in my earlier definition of a No.1. He should be able to compete with and beat on a regular basis the No.1 riders of opposing teams. It follows therefore that, all things being equal, you would expect a No.1 to have a CMA in the same range as the No.1's of other teams. In this case 8.01 or above, although, realistically, you need to analyse matters a little more deeply. For example a rider with an average of say 8.5 may have a home average of 10.5 and an away average of 6.5, he would not be a No.1 in my book because he would not be able to compete at that level away from home. It is also possible that a rider with a sub 8.01 CMA could have a great season and achieve a CMA way above his starting average and become a No.1 but no team should risk basing their season on that sort of gamble because it so rarely succeeds. so using your yardstick . would there be enough genuine no1 to go round next season ? hopefully there will be 10 teams in next years elite league. so can you name 1 for each team ? Edited December 24, 2010 by speedibee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 so using your yardstick . would there be enough genuine no1 to go round next season ? hopefully there will be 10 teams in next years elite league. so can you name 1 for each team ? No. But of course the 8.01 criteria was presumably based on 8 teams EL and you cannot fairly change it now because the team building of those 8 has been based on that criteria. Anyone not currently with a rider in that category may have tried to sign one of those now signed up elsewhere, if they had known that there were going to be more than 8 EL teams. However, I assume that in the interests of transparency and fairness, for which they are the self proclaimed standard bearers, the last teams in will accept that they should be the one's to suffer if 10 8.01 riders cannot be found. Oh blimey I have just woken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 so using your yarstick . would there be enough genuine no1 to go round next season ? hopefully there will be 10 teams in nextr years elite league. so can you name ! for each team ? King's Lynn - K Bjerre Birmingham - Kasprzak Poole - Holder Eastbourne - B Pedersen Coventry - Harris Belle Vue - Zagar, Kolodziej, Hampel, Sajfutdinov, Miedzinski, N Pedersen, Crump Lakeside - Richardson Swindon - Nicholls Wolves - Lindgren Peterborough - Andersen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Belle Vue - Zagar, Kolodziej, Hampel, Sajfutdinov, Miedzinski, N Pedersen, Crump Zagar - we were hoping for someone full time and, from memory, not the best of records at BV. The rest are extremely unlikely to ride in the EL and of those Sayfutdinov and Miedzinski are not No.1's in the EL at the moment. Didn't Pedersen approach KL and was reportedly too expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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