philfromcov Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Why??? Making those concessions opens the floodgates for similar actions in the future which is unacceptable! what is unacceptable is not changing the assesed average to stop it happening again but changing the way PL averages are calculated. you now get the stupid situation were britsih riders cant move up because they are too high and we get more of a flood of foreign 4.00 imports, have you ever stopped to ask why? because ceratin promoters had already signed a couple of 4.00 and didnt want that loop hole closed. make the foreign assessed be six and coventry wouldnt have had a leg to stand on, but no the rule remains unchanged so we can have the same argument over again, but lets punish coventry for using that rule that were not going to change and were happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houdi Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 yes ive just heared it now, expect a press release next 24 hours. must be correct Houdi says so! Corrected for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 According to BBC Cov & War the Bees are Back in the Elite League 2011 CLICK TO HEAR INTERVIEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westo97 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hope its worth listening to as im about to distrub listening to The Vera Violets for this. King Sandhu ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 what is unacceptable is not changing the assesed average to stop it happening again but changing the way PL averages are calculated. you now get the stupid situation were britsih riders cant move up because they are too high and we get more of a flood of foreign 4.00 imports, have you ever stopped to ask why? because ceratin promoters had already signed a couple of 4.00 and didnt want that loop hole closed. make the foreign assessed be six and coventry wouldnt have had a leg to stand on, but no the rule remains unchanged so we can have the same argument over again, but lets punish coventry for using that rule that were not going to change and were happy with. How many times?? No one is punishing Coventry and I am sick to the back teeth of this victim mentality. Rules were agreed at the AGM - if Coventry disagreed then that's tough because the majority passed the rules - that's assuming that Coventry hadn't had their tantrum and left by then (in which case they gave up their right to vote). If Coventry are back inside the BSPA (which seems the case) then they can influence the other promoters to change the rules at the next AGM. I didn't say that the rules were fair or not and I personally would have no problem if Pawlicki came back on a 4 as I don't think any rules were broken. However,it seems that the rules have been changed which means he is not likely to be a 4 and we need to accept the rules agreed by the majority and move on. I would have had some respect for Coventry if they had shown more dignity in accepting the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 steve does your head hurt from keep banging it against a wall??? NO RULES HAVE COME OUT OF THE AGM OFFICIALLY. What part of that do u not understand??? if no rules have officially come out then how do u know what to build to? Well, the BSPA site listing 40 points as the team building limit might be a start. http://www.speedwaygb.co/elteams11.html Without getting too far ahead of ourselves, let's hope that Coventry are in for 2011 (as is being claimed) and on a compromise which makes everyone happy. Or, perhaps more realistically, at least doesn't hack off too many parties too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So, what now for Peterborough? Has the upright and honourable Avtar Sandhu deserted his erstwhile comrade-in-legal-action now that he has cobbled together a shoddy compromise with the discredited BSPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So, what now for Peterborough? Has the upright and honourable Avtar Sandhu deserted his erstwhile comrade-in-legal-action now that he has cobbled together a shoddy compromise with the discredited BSPA? You appear so angry, is your real name Mrs Ford/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westo97 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So, what now for Peterborough? Has the upright and honourable Avtar Sandhu deserted his erstwhile comrade-in-legal-action now that he has cobbled together a shoddy compromise with the discredited BSPA? Slowly.......in through the nose........and out through the mouth Cool your jets,we'll find out soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So, what now for Peterborough? Has the upright and honourable Avtar Sandhu deserted his erstwhile comrade-in-legal-action now that he has cobbled together a shoddy compromise with the discredited BSPA? Frost said he couldn't afford EL speedway so I reckon just used it as an excuse for an out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Well I, for one, am glad that Coventry are back - if this is confimed. I only hope that Peterborough can return too. If not - I will miss my trips to the EoES. As I have said many times - we need MORE Speedway Teams and Tracks - NOT less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorski Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 As I have said many times - we need MORE Speedway Teams and Tracks - NOT less. And inparticular in the Elite league too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorski Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 So, what now for Peterborough? I guess that they have the same chance to return,if they can/want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Frost said he couldn't afford EL speedway. But you're the only one who believes that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc61 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Frost said he couldn't afford EL speedway so I reckon just used it as an excuse for an out. will you ever state a fact rather than an opinion. he said he could not justify running elite league under a set of rules that would increase the 140,000 losses he made last season. he could easily afford it but justifying it is a different matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westo97 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 will you ever state a fact rather than an opinion. he said he could not justify running elite league under a set of rules that would increase the 140,000 losses he made last season. he could easily afford it but justifying it is a different matter To be fair he has had a very difficult 3-4 weeks.All this posturing is on the verge of coming back to bite him on the ass very soon,I think a lie down in a dark room and some banging of head against a wall is most definately required. I did suggest two weeks back I thought he needed a break as his posts were bordering on insanity but he declined and kept the propoganda machine in overdrive despite contradicting himself numerous times. Its a shame really,Poole are a great club but they get dragged in the gutter by this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastern wolf Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 will you ever state a fact rather than an opinion. he said he could not justify running elite league under a set of rules that would increase the 140,000 losses he made last season. he could easily afford it but justifying it is a different matter That isn't quite what he said. He actually said (see below) that he can't justify remaining in the EL. He says he FEELS (doesn't know) that rule changes would add to that. We cannot justify or endorse losses of c£140,000 per season in order for Peterborough Speedway to remain in the Elite League and feel that some of the rule changes voted in at the recent BSPA AGM will only serve to increase such losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westo97 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 That isn't quite what he said. He actually said (see below) that he can't justify remaining in the EL. He says he FEELS (doesn't know) that rule changes would add to that. We cannot justify or endorse losses of c£140,000 per season in order for Peterborough Speedway to remain in the Elite League and feel that some of the rule changes voted in at the recent BSPA AGM will only serve to increase such losses. That's the same thing just words in a different arrangement to be fair Bit pedantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastern wolf Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 That's the same thing just words in a different arrangement to be fair Bit pedantic It certainly isn't the same thing. Ignore the "feels" bit which is just an addendum to his statement. He clearly says he can't justify remaining in the EL with losses of 140k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 nice christmas present for the bees fans , hope P.boro fans can have a similar one in the next few days . I would like to be greedy now and ask santa to give me another gift....the news that ben barker has signed for another elite team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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