Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 If the AGM finally takes place on Tuesday, some things i would like to see adressed are; a Points limit of 40, ALL new Commonwealth riders parentage or not to be assessed on 5 points,minimum riders average of 2 points, KO Cup to be completed by end of July,League to be decided on overall points, League Shield to be competed for at seasons end by Top four Teams,National Trophy to be decided for by the Teams finishing 5th to 8th. Here, here (or is it 'hear, hear'..?! ).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If the AGM finally takes place on Tuesday, some things i would like to see adressed are; a Points limit of 40, ALL new Commonwealth riders parentage or not to be assessed on 5 points,minimum riders average of 2 points, KO Cup to be completed by end of July,League to be decided on overall points, League Shield to be competed for at seasons end by Top four Teams,National Trophy to be decided for by the Teams finishing 5th to 8th. Agree with most of that although I would like to amalgamate the Shield and trophy into 1 competition competed by clubs finishing 2nd to 5th. Also new averages first of every month regardless of meetings held - take away this nonsense of high scoring reserves running through most of the season on artificial averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If the AGM finally takes place on Tuesday, some things i would like to see adressed are; a Points limit of 40, ALL new Commonwealth riders parentage or not to be assessed on 5 points,minimum riders average of 2 points, KO Cup to be completed by end of July,League to be decided on overall points, League Shield to be competed for at seasons end by Top four Teams,National Trophy to be decided for by the Teams finishing 5th to 8th. I'd say commonwealth riders on 7.00 and be a little more flexible on the points limit (either up or down)depending on how many teams are in and what the pool of riders are, but otherwise I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Seems sensible suggestions. I hope the rumour I've heard of adding 1 point to riders over 25, and subtracting 1 point from riders under 25 doesn't go ahead... would somewhat contradict the point of the average system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I forgot to put in my previous post that along with the minimum 2 point average, i would have protected Heats in Heats 8 and is it heat 12/13 <riders as programed>i dont have a program here with me, but the other race where a 2nd string rides with the reserve ie NO tactical subs in those races, this will not destroy young lads confidence by having a Heat leader against him, and not give us races where the winner is half a lap in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Whatever happens at the meeting let's hope it doesn't trigger a descent into the depths like the EL AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalCastles Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Whatever happens at the meeting let's hope it doesn't trigger a descent into the depths like the EL AGM. Seconded Some interesting suggestions above. Hopefully whatever is agreed will also be accepted by all clubs, whatever they do. And hopefully the hornets will be in action in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hopefully some good news will arrive today if the meeting is going ahead of course! I think the points limit needs to reflect the final number of teams and the available riders, as per Halifaxs comment. Personally I have never had an issue with foreign riders as I think they bring some much needed excitement to the racing, it is for the British lads to prove themselves good enough for a place. Having said that I do believe that any assessed average needs to be accurate in terms of their ability. Overall I hope that we have a decent number of teams, all of whom complete the season, that produce competitive quality racing that enough people come to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Saint Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I forgot to put in my previous post that along with the minimum 2 point average, i would have protected Heats in Heats 8 and is it heat 12/13 <riders as programed>i dont have a program here with me, but the other race where a 2nd string rides with the reserve ie NO tactical subs in those races, this will not destroy young lads confidence by having a Heat leader against him, and not give us races where the winner is half a lap in front. We dont have Tactical Subs now just reserve replacements and rider replacement. Malcolm Vasey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Thumb Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 We dont have Tactical Subs now just reserve replacements and rider replacement. Malcolm Vasey Is that new for 2011? Why cant we keep all 3 leagues using the same rules? watch the teams now try and find a way to keep a rider down at reserve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is that new for 2011? Why cant we keep all 3 leagues using the same rules? watch the teams now try and find a way to keep a rider down at reserve! There haven't been tactical subs for a while. The last one I can remember was 2008? When the Golden Double was still used, but from 15 metres back? There are, however, tactical rides, but that doesn't change the riders in the race, just the points scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Saint Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It says somnething for our rules that they are not clearly understood by so many spectators. All three Leagues are the same in this area and are pretty much co-terminus on race nights the difference being around points limits and the use of foreign riders and thus assessed avaerages and the minefield that exists there. I was once accosted by a Boston supporter who demanded to know why I had not used a Tactical Substitute a few years ago. I said when should I have done that and he said as sonn as you were six points behind. When I explained that the rule had changed to an eight point deficit he sheepishly withdrew his remark excusing himself by saying "How was I to know that?". Sometimes words fail me. Malcolm Vasey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Thumb Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) It says somnething for our rules that they are not clearly understood by so many spectators. All three Leagues are the same in this area and are pretty much co-terminus on race nights the difference being around points limits and the use of foreign riders and thus assessed avaerages and the minefield that exists there. I was once accosted by a Boston supporter who demanded to know why I had not used a Tactical Substitute a few years ago. I said when should I have done that and he said as sonn as you were six points behind. When I explained that the rule had changed to an eight point deficit he sheepishly withdrew his remark excusing himself by saying "How was I to know that?". Sometimes words fail me. Malcolm Vasey OooPS read it and thought you meant Tactical rides (ie double points for beating opposition rider) !! Can you confirm if the AGM is taking place today or not? Edited January 25, 2011 by Tom Thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Can you confirm if the AGM is taking place today or not? It is taking place today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It is taking place today. Is Colin outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Whatever happens at the meeting let's hope it doesn't trigger a descent into the depths like the EL AGM. too late .... Mildenhall being refused entry this morning tells me that Mr Morrish is sitting pretty with the BSPA and has the same intent to completely screw the sport up as best they can. RIP speedway ... was good while we had it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 There you go then, a league that is run by an independant still does stupid things. Proof of ever it was needed, someone independant is not a perfect solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comebackkings Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 There you go then, a league that is run by an independant still does stupid things. Proof of ever it was needed, someone independant is not a perfect solution. An independant body not an independant person. Where are the checks and balances with an individual running the league? His own personal feelings and bias will always cloud his judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoaty Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 It says somnething for our rules that they are not clearly understood by so many spectators. I think that is more down to the intelligence of the spectator rather than the complexity of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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