Speedway Grand Plan

[Kevin Meynell]

Longtrack........now what's that and how would you go about introducing that to punters outside Germany?

The problem with longtrack is that it's boring once you get beyond being impressed by how fast the riders go. It seems mostly about how powerful your engine is, and passing is more or less non-existent after the first bend.

 

However, the fundamental problem with longtrack becoming popular is that the tracks require too much space. There is no chance of fitting them into an inner city venue, and their size makes viewing much too difficult.

 

The reasons you get big crowds in longtrack is that they're generally one-off events. Each track usually only stages one or at most two meetings per season, for which the locals all turn out. On this basis, we could equally argue that we get 40,000 fans for the British GP.

 

As for the New Zealand round of the World Longtrack Championship, 7,000 was decent enough considering the venue, but it hardly indicates that the event is hugely popular.

[Trackman]

Speedway needs to go back to basics. Even with standard engines, your still going to get the "good" and "not so good". More dirt on the tracks, standard engines, basic rules = closer racing = more people watching

In Matt's perfect little world!!!

 

Why is a heat with standard bikes better than a heat with highly tuned bike? It's not, you will still have better riders and not so good riders, all that will happen is that the better riders will still gate first and still be fastest as they are now and there will be just as many faster riders failing to make the start and passing, as you do now. However, some "standard" bikes will be better than others so riders will buy bike, after bike, after bike until they get a good one and so drive up costs and they'll want more money and promoters WILL pay it and the sport suffers.

 

More dirty?! No, just well prepared not nessesarilly loads of dirty. I'm no expert but I'd say you need a thin layer of dirt with grip on the outside, slightly less dirt/grip about mid track and an almost slick track on the inside, not completly slick or you get the 'blue line'.

Why is a heat with standard bikes better than a heat with highly tuned bike?

 

G'Day SCB

CIK,F/Ford, F/V, CART, WRC, Yamaha R6 Series, Porsche Cup, etc.. It can work and it can keep the cost down, but we need a UK Motor/ Frame set up for UK tracks, I think Hans had the best UK setup, in the Godden or was it PC on his Weslake. / ;D

Regards.

PS.

No, just well prepared not nessesarilly loads of dirty. I'm no expert but I'd say you need a thin layer of dirt with grip on the outside, slightly less dirt/grip about mid track and an almost slick track on the inside, not completly slick or you get the 'blue line'..... You've got it SCB, Spread the word.

[iris123]

The promoters need to get together with a bicycle company and make a speedway looking push bike. At the very least they could make a fibreglass kit for dressing up a bike. Same for riders, imagine kids peddling to school on a Billy Hamill replica bicycle. This gives the sport advertising and coverage, it keeps it in peoples minds year round.

If kids rode to school in Manchester on a bike with the Belle Vue logo on it, it would remind people of the sport, start conversations about it. Some of these other sports are successful because they are everywhere. We humans respond well to seeing a message repetitively. Out of site, out of mind.

If there was a spoiler in the track shop that would fit a bike rear wheel with the team logo and autographs, do you think any kid would want it for his bike.

Here is another spoilers, say half size or smaller that could be hung on the bedroom wall, autographed, team colours, rider replicas. Collect the set.

Funnily enough a Canterbury supporter patented a "Speedway-pedal-cycle" in `74 and his son rode it around Kingsmead.It was quote "a highly elaborate push-bike,kitted out as a speedway machine complete with battery operated noise and a flashing amber light at te rear of the exhaust to give an authentic under power impression".The bloke hoped to have it on the market by Xmas `75.Guess it didnt sell

[Hammer]

Amazingly, Raleigh did a Speedway pushbike in the mid to late seventies, it wasn,t very good though

[Malcolm]

A way of funding speedway would be to have a designated section of bike/bodywork uniform across the board on all bikes for sponsors of a British Speedway league. This type of thing is familiar on NASCAR racers front fenders.

The money would be spread evenly between teams and for possibly employing a PR team to help push the sport.

[Trees]

The promoters need to get together with a bicycle company and make a speedway looking push bike

 

Funnily enough I saw a boy on a bike the other day that looked a little like old time speedway bikes with upturned handlebars and what looked like a fuel tank. God knows what make it was and it looked new, it could have been custom built I guess, it surprised me for sure!

[longlivefrankie]

i reckon that was barrie evans

[Malcolm]

Points limit and what will it be this year is holding up team building. Scrap it and allow teams to BUILD ONE AND KEEP ONE.

No points limit will allow people and companies with money to come in a sponsor with certainty of what they are sponsoring or in the case of Sandu, owning.

Riders need to be paid enough to have one job SPEEDWAY. They should be riding or promoting it and their sponsors.

Keep speedway down by not allowing the freedom to grow and you will have silly rules (Tactical Joker), stories of teams demise (Coventry, almost) and the abiliity to see your favourite superstar rider working at a second job selling cars ala Stoney.

Crazy.

[Guest BilaHora]

Ms Trees

 

The bicycle companies are currently marketing "easy rider" type bicycles - it could have been one of those you saw.

 

Regards

 

BilaHora

Edited November 12, 2004 by BilaHora

[Nevs]

As Usual Moto X and Kawasaki are years ahead of speedway

 

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[Guest BilaHora]

All

 

Further to my post above:

 

http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/TruH...ting-Ray/722804

 

Regards

 

BilaHora

[Nevs]

Off topic sorry-but if anyones thinking of buying the Stingray in Bila Horas post make sure you get the toys r us xmas catalogue as theres a voucher for a further £20 off on the back page making it £179.

[rusky]

Mr Trees

 

The bicycle companies are currently marketing "easy rider" type bicycles - it could have been one of those you saw.

 

Regards

 

BilaHora

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Are you impressed with that reply, MR TREES

[Trees]

Are you impressed with that reply, MR TREES

Just a misspelling, should have read Mrs I'm sure

 

Easy Rider eh, it was impressive must admit!

[Nevs]

Was told Quote "Trees will eat him alive for that"

 

Easy mistake Bila Hora-Done it meself a few times on here -Dont ask....

 

To Keep on topic how about kids birthday parties at £8 a head?-Football clubs do it-Meet the riders tour the pits go in referees box,have nuggets and chips-watch the speedway-get a goodie bag-Bound to get the kids hooked and bring mum and dad again soon.

Speculate to accumulate-To us adults means not a lot-but to the kids would be awesome.

Edited November 11, 2004 by Nevsy

[Guest BilaHora]

Mr Nevsy

 

I regret that I would make a poor meal for Ms Trees.

 

Regards

 

BilaHora

[Malcolm]

Speedway needs to get more inventive when it comes to tracks too.

So a community does not want a 400yd track and well 1000-1500 look pretty sad at a big track, so offer the community a rodeo arena.

The same arena can be used for horse events, swap meets small concerts and so on. Currently there is a race series in such an arena Stateside, Chowchilla. This track is even covered, even better. Other examples include Costa Mesa, Auburn etc

I wonder if Carmarthen Dragons could have pulled off a lease for something smaller?

Not speedway enough? Better than nothing.