builderbob Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Mainly because the BSPA say so.Its their ball and they like to say who can play with them. ithink its time someone kicked there balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Whilst exiled up in Yorkshire I regularly watched CL racing at Scunthorpe, Sheffield and - my favourite venue after Peterborough - Buxton. I've also been a regular at Mildenhall since returning home. I found most of the meetings enjoyable and, at Buxton especially, I've seen meetings raced and completed in conditions an EL rider wouldn't even consider taking his bike out of his van in. I also enjoyed Pumas matches back then - winning the Championship at Stoke pleased me just as much as any of the EL/PL Championships. If that's where Panthers operate next year, bring it on, I'll be there. Edited December 2, 2010 by Barney Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 As Peterborough have now been ruled out of both the Elite and the Premier league, I hope they will be applying to run in the National League for 2011 to preserve the sport at the Showground. I would be delighted if that were the case, but would I be in a minority? With the changes in senior management at the Showground, could NL work for a season with a return to EL in 2012? Over to Mr Frost..... The only advantage I can see in running a NL side in 2011 is that it keeps regular speedway at the Showground, I certainly wouldn't be satisfied with just NL speedway and to be honest if the the Panthers are taking legal action over the AGM fiasco I think it unlikely they will get accepted into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 The only advantage I can see in running a NL side in 2011 is that it keeps regular speedway at the Showground, I certainly wouldn't be satisfied with just NL speedway and to be honest if the the Panthers are taking legal action over the AGM fiasco I think it unlikely they will get accepted into that. I sincerly hope Peterborough do run speedway next year, speedway at the Showground has to be kept going to save another venue for closure and lost to the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bubble Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Because the BSPA want to punish teams that do not toe the line and fit in with the dictators! well said you are bang on there Because the BSPA want to punish teams that do not toe the line and fit in with the dictators! well said you are bang on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 All this is likely to create a break away league - splitting the speedway world. That'll give the legal eagles some work to do. Perhaps Coventry and Peterborough could add some spice by joining the Polish or Swedish leagues - just like they keep talking about for Celtic and Rangers. That would be an interesting situation - Tomasz Gollob and Co at Brandon and the Showground - that would create some interest from the BSPA, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storming Norman Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 A cooling off year in the NL seems the best option and would be a huge boost to the NL. Have a year of bringing on some British youngsters, Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 My immediate reaction was to assume that the 'promotion' of the Devils was to punish the Panthers and Bees with the sole intention of preventing them from running at anything other than NL, were they so minded. I personally consider that the BSPA have taken the easy, small minded and unpleasant view that if certain promotions will not conform, then they should feel the full force of the BSPA's displeasure. However, no matter what my view might be, please can I reassure you that there IS life beyond the EL and you might actually be pleasantly surprised at what the NL brings. Good, honest, all action effort, thrills and spills with none of the prima donna stuff that goes with the EL. To lose the EOES and/or Brandon to speedway would be a tragedy, so please I urge the Panthers and Bees suppporters to NOT allow this to happen. Embrace and enjoy the NL for what it is and look forward to a brighter future in seasons to come. Keep the faith because we need each and every supporter and their team out there not only next season, but for each season to come. Plus if you are in the NL you won't have to put up posts from Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 What teams took the Reading and IOW PL licences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storming Norman Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Ancient Mariner, to put it in context, it appears that Coventry and Peterborough walked out of the AGM thinking the EL couldn't operate without them as the the Sky contract requires at least 8 teams. Having gone through all this pain and managed to get two clubs to move up, is it really surprising if the BSPA aren't now willing to welcome Coventry and Peterborough into the EL or PL with open arms? I assume to avoid this happening in the future, they want to show that such behaviour doesn't pay. Threats of legal action don't help relationships either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaptooth Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 My immediate reaction was to assume that the 'promotion' of the Devils was to punish the Panthers and Bees with the sole intention of preventing them from running at anything other than NL, were they so minded. I personally consider that the BSPA have taken the easy, small minded and unpleasant view that if certain promotions will not conform, then they should feel the full force of the BSPA's displeasure. However, no matter what my view might be, please can I reassure you that there IS life beyond the EL and you might actually be pleasantly surprised at what the NL brings. Good, honest, all action effort, thrills and spills with none of the prima donna stuff that goes with the EL. To lose the EOES and/or Brandon to speedway would be a tragedy, so please I urge the Panthers and Bees suppporters to NOT allow this to happen. Embrace and enjoy the NL for what it is and look forward to a brighter future in seasons to come. Keep the faith because we need each and every supporter and their team out there not only next season, but for each season to come. Plus if you are in the NL you won't have to put up posts from Shovlar is he the one who sits alone in the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Ancient Mariner, to put it in context, it appears that Coventry and Peterborough walked out of the AGM thinking the EL couldn't operate without them as the the Sky contract requires at least 8 teams. Having gone through all this pain and managed to get two clubs to move up, is it really surprising if the BSPA aren't now willing to welcome Coventry and Peterborough into the EL or PL with open arms? I assume to avoid this happening in the future, they want to show that such behaviour doesn't pay. Threats of legal action don't help relationships either. To you, maybe. Not to me. Let's just wait and see what caused the rift before deciding who's right and wrong in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 It will be interesting if Peterborough run in the NL and make a decent profit. Why would they want to go back to the Elite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Ancient Mariner, to put it in context, it appears that Coventry and Peterborough walked out of the AGM thinking the EL couldn't operate without them as the the Sky contract requires at least 8 teams. Having gone through all this pain and managed to get two clubs to move up, is it really surprising if the BSPA aren't now willing to welcome Coventry and Peterborough into the EL or PL with open arms? I assume to avoid this happening in the future, they want to show that such behaviour doesn't pay. Threats of legal action don't help relationships either. I quite take your pint SN I have no doubt that there will be two versions of what went on and rights and wrongs on both sides. I just wish that the BSPA as an entity would try and set to one side this whole sorry affair and now do what is right for the sport. Heaven only knows just how tough the commercial climate will be next season. I worry that the sport is being torn apart and tracks lost for ever because the BSPA members have forgotten their duty of care to the sport. If they can't or won't show a care for our sport, then maybe someone else should? Please note that as a supporter of a team that has 'gained' from all this (though I fear we will ALL be losers), I have no axe to grind here. It is just very, very sad that it has come to this. Edited December 4, 2010 by ancient mariner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Unsure what I want TBH.... I dont want to see my club go from Elite League to National League, as the thought of having riders like Harris, Nicki Pedersen, Hans and Lindgren scraping the fence, and now novices crawling along the white line, or struggling with grip. Also, surely its not finacially viable for the club to run National, the rent is way to much, and for only get 200 hundred fans turn up, thats at the most aswell, the atmosphere will be shocking, almost empty.... thats gonna be awful. I want the club to run.... but not like this i would be gutted if i was in your position but dont believe nl isnt exciting,i adnt watched much nl till last year but it was easily the best season ive had in the last 10 years. i know the situation is totaly different in that we adnt ad a team in 14 years and watching another team can never be the same but i urge you give it a go.the racing is much better than you would imagine.and the riders are much more approachable.i reckon the eoes is my favourite track and i would love to visit next year to watch the heathens.i really believe if they miss a year it could be the end and that would be a disaster for british speedway,as with coventry.ps it wont be empty when we ride there!!! Edited December 4, 2010 by bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Unsure what I want TBH.... I dont want to see my club go from Elite League to National League, as the thought of having riders like Harris, Nicki Pedersen, Hans and Lindgren scraping the fence, and now novices crawling along the white line, or struggling with grip. Also, surely its not finacially viable for the club to run National, the rent is way to much, and for only get 200 hundred fans turn up, thats at the most aswell, the atmosphere will be shocking, almost empty.... thats gonna be awful. I want the club to run.... but not like this I'd like to see the Panthers continue but to go from the Elite League to National League is to much for me its Monday nights in front of sky now if they move that far backwards, its such a shame its come to this after so many memories of following the Panthers up and down the country for many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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