Mildenhall - Who Decides Who The New Promoter Is?

[neil3065]

Couldn't agree more, Kev, I think you've summed things up accurately and succinctly.

 

As you say, if Mr Bailey wants the same result as the Mildenhall fans, then he has a strange way of showing it. He clearly still has his own agenda for making such remarks. But Mr Bailey is a mere footnote in Mildenhall's past. Indeed, there are people who had been part of the staff at Mildenhall much, much longer than Mr Bailey, who have been wholly more positive in welcoming Mildenhall's potential re-opening in 2011 on this discussion thread. So we can draw our own conclusions from those contrasting remarks.

 

Fortunately, it now looks more positive as to Mildenhall being active in 2011, and it is to that which most are now looking forward. Hopefully Mildenhall's team will consist of riders who have the potential and hunger to develop in the sport. That was something the 2010 Mildenhall management did deliver and it would be good to see a similar team building ethos for 2011.

Edited December 28, 2010 by neil3065

[Halifaxtiger]

 

For Halifax I still support a points limit reduction in the NL my beliefs could have kept your team alive last season.

 

It has to be too good to lose

 

Malcolm Vasey

 

Consistent at least

 

My own view has changed slightly, mainly thanks to Dale Allitt's eloquent persuasion. For the forthcoming season, I believe that a points limit should be set based upon 4 factors: the pool of riders available for the NL, the financial viability of the clubs, the development of British youngsters and the differing needs of the constituent members.I am sure that some sort of agreement could be reached on that basis, but have no idea what the figure would be.

 

Bluntly, to make a decision to reduce (or indeed increase)the current limit with regard to

only one of those factors would in my opinion be both foolish and, quite possibly, selfish.

 

To suggest that Mildenhall would have survived based on a lower points limit is pure optimistic speculation and nothing else.

 

I believe you advocated a 36pt limit at the end of 2009, which would have meant that Mildenhall would have started the 2010 season with a line up of Evans, Priest, Rayson, Jacobs and............3 3pt (or so) riders. That would be the same for all of the clubs, and I certainly don't know of 30 such riders. Nor does Jayne Moss, because she took issue with you over that specific subject on the pages of this forum, nor, too, does Laurence Rogers, stating to me at Dudley one night that they just don't exist. As such, that suggestion was completely impractical. In addition, it doesn't just mean 30 riders for that season, but for every season afterwards, with the undoubted possibility that some youngsters on a 6 or 7pt average would be squeezed out.

 

Its true to suggest that a lower points limit would involve lower costs. Even on NL rates, based upon what I know Mildenhall would still need 300 paying adults to break even. According to Ray Mascall, they weren't getting that and while the losses would have been more sustainable, who is to say that the club still would not have folded ?

 

That also overlooks whether gates would have remained the same without the likes of Hart, Lambert, Smart, Herne, Simmonds etc - the drawcards at NL level (never mind those who would have refused to ride for £10 a point). Would everyone who paid £10 to watch the Fen Tigers (and every other club) have continued to do so when each team had at least two novices ? One only has to read the comments about fans leaving due to lowering points levels in the EL for the answer to that, and while the amateur meetings I have seen are generally entertaining no-one goes despite the fact that entry is free.

 

I am nearly as keen on youth development as you are (I followed Adam Kirby to places as far apart as Workington and Plymouth last season to watch him compete in the U15's) but that cannot be at the expense of everything else.

Edited December 29, 2010 by Halifaxtiger

[alan_boon]

I think the NL is the perfect place to trial League-owned riders and rider control (within obvious geographical constraints).

[SimonB]

Whenever the new promotion is announced I will give them my full support. SMS will be kicked started again in the new year to continue our mission to raise funds to help the new promotion and obviously I look forward to working with them.

 

I have no idea as to the depth of their pockets but they will definately need some financing as I would have thought it unlikely that they could make an immediate impact on the financial well being of the club. Promotion will help but it also costs and takes time.

 

In terms of the fencing I am certain Mildenhall speedway has access to people who know exactly how it needs to be put together and who can train whoever is responsible for this work. It is a tricky process, I know from brief personal experience(the one time I was responsible for it I just bought the bacon rolls), but it is managable.

 

And as to it being my round it is never my round as an ex-promoter I expect to use poverty as my excuse for many years to come....

[Nikko]

Whenever the new promotion is announced I will give them my full support. SMS will be kicked started again in the new year to continue our mission to raise funds to help the new promotion and obviously I look forward to working with them.

 

I have no idea as to the depth of their pockets but they will definately need some financing as I would have thought it unlikely that they could make an immediate impact on the financial well being of the club. Promotion will help but it also costs and takes time.

 

In terms of the fencing I am certain Mildenhall speedway has access to people who know exactly how it needs to be put together and who can train whoever is responsible for this work. It is a tricky process, I know from brief personal experience(the one time I was responsible for it I just bought the bacon rolls), but it is managable.

 

And as to it being my round it is never my round as an ex-promoter I expect to use poverty as my excuse for many years to come....

 

Hi Simon and all Fen Tigers fans.

 

The new promotion whoever they may be and whenever they actualy take charge will need all the support and help they can get to be ready for the 2011 season.

 

Lets not underestimate the task at hand, there is alot of work to do in a very short period of time.

 

The club has got a lot of ground to cover with fans, and certaintly sponsors after what happened last season, and I suspect with potential riders as well.

 

I, as others have mentioned am also concerned that with Ipswich now having regular PL meetings every week it may reduce the support we have received from Witches fans over the last few years. Although a smaller impact with Kings Lynn now EL that may also have an effect.

 

This is not to say the Fen Tigers cannot be successful because they can but the new promoter has the hardest task of any in the last 10 years.

 

Also as someone who worked alongside the fantastic track staff at Mildenhall for a number of years the new promotion should also not underestimate the work involved in putting up the fence, or getting a track ready and suitable for speedway. Manageable yes, but certainly not to be taken lightly. Its a job that must be done right, and done right first time everytime for the health and safety of the riders.

 

So lets hope that a new promoter can be confirmed as soon as possible and they have the experience and backroom staff to make the Fen Tigers a success again.

 

Finally in response to Simons last line - Sorry again mate

 

A Happy New Year to all Fen Tigers, and speedway fans.

 

Nikko

[gibralta]

Whenever the new promotion is announced I will give them my full support. SMS will be kicked started again in the new year to continue our mission to raise funds to help the new promotion and obviously I look forward to working with them.

 

I have no idea as to the depth of their pockets but they will definately need some financing as I would have thought it unlikely that they could make an immediate impact on the financial well being of the club. Promotion will help but it also costs and takes time.

 

In terms of the fencing I am certain Mildenhall speedway has access to people who know exactly how it needs to be put together and who can train whoever is responsible for this work. It is a tricky process, I know from brief personal experience(the one time I was responsible for it I just bought the bacon rolls), but it is managable.

 

And as to it being my round it is never my round as an ex-promoter I expect to use poverty as my excuse for many years to come....

You may just have said the right things to get yourself a role other than 'buying the bacon rolls' this time round.

[canaryboy1]

Couldn't agree more, Kev, I think you've summed things up accurately and succinctly.

 

As you say, if Mr Bailey wants the same result as the Mildenhall fans, then he has a strange way of showing it. He clearly still has his own agenda for making such remarks. But Mr Bailey is a mere footnote in Mildenhall's past. Indeed, there are people who had been part of the staff at Mildenhall much, much longer than Mr Bailey, who have been wholly more positive in welcoming Mildenhall's potential re-opening in 2011 on this discussion thread. So we can draw our own conclusions from those contrasting remarks.

 

Fortunately, it now looks more positive as to Mildenhall being active in 2011, and it is to that which most are now looking forward. Hopefully Mildenhall's team will consist of riders who have the potential and hunger to develop in the sport. That was something the 2010 Mildenhall management did deliver and it would be good to see a similar team building ethos for 2011.

 

Just catching up with all the news after the Xmas Break and I am delighted that Mildenhall Fentigers will be opened for business in 2011,but someone will have to explain to me who this kea54/Mr.Bailey is because I have never heard of him and by the comments I do not believe that I would want to meet him,all he seems to be doing is to cause trouble which we can well do without.

Good luck to the Fentigers in 2011, I for one will be there supporting you,hopefully kea54 will not (who ever he is)

 

K.K.

[2ndbendpostie]

I'm going off topic here but as the thread has for the time being become a bit slow moving hopefully you will forgive me, this is speedway related up to a point and the Mildenhall thread seems as good a place as any to post it as I know of at least two Norwich City fans who post here !, did anyone go to the Middlesborough v Norwich match on Monday, I didnt but my son did, and I have just got round to looking at the programme he brought back, on page 38 is a picture of ex boro legend David Armstrong astride a speedway bike, he played for boro from 73 to 80, my query is for anyone who has seen the pic, who are the two riders pictured with him, and what team would they have ridden for, did middlesborough have a speedway team at that time, ?

Thanks for any info.

[SimonB]

You may just have said the right things to get yourself a role other than 'buying the bacon rolls' this time round.

I tend to enjoy more supervisory roles these days lol

[25yearfan]

I get hold of most Norwich City programmes and I have seen the speedway photo that was in Mondays Middlesbrough V Norwich City programme!

 

The 2 Teeside Tigers riders with ex Boro player David Armstrong are current Redcar (only up the road from Middlesbrough FC's Riverside Stadium) promotor Brian Havelock and a very young Mark Courtney!

 

Good luck to Mildenhall speedway in the future whoevers running them!

[2ndbendpostie]

I get hold of most Norwich City programmes and I have seen the speedway photo that was in Mondays Middlesbrough V Norwich City programme!

 

The 2 Teeside Tigers riders with ex Boro player David Armstrong are current Redcar (only up the road from Middlesbrough FC's Riverside Stadium) promotor Brian Havelock and a very young Mark Courtney!

 

Good luck to Mildenhall speedway in the future whoevers running them!

 

 

Thanks for that, it did seem a bit strange that they choose to print a picture and then give it no detail in the accompanying article.

[Cornishfisherman]

I do hope that the Mildenhall situation is sorted out soon and fully supported by the BSPA- We cannot afford to lose any speedway tracks that are able to run within Planning rules etc., I am sure that if run properly by the right person (preferably someone with local contacts) with a few local riders in the team Miledenhall can once again be a force to be reckoned with. East Anglians will be able to watch Speedway from all three levels.