FenTiger666 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Although it looks like there may be some positive news about Mildenhall I am concerned that it looks like the BSPA have left the decision on who the new promotion may be to Dave Coventry who is a stock car promoter and has no background in speedway !! I thought proposals went to the BSPA (who now own the Mildenhall licence) and they would decide who was "fit and proper" to own the licence to run the Fen Tigers. Then, like other clubs, those people would talk to Mr Coventry, who owns the stadium about rent etc. It seems that in this case, its the other way round and Mr Coventry is deciding who will promote at Mildenhall. That cannot be right surely ?!? One of my major concerns on this is that of self interest. Mr Coventry has stated that he thinks that £1200 rent is acceptable. Well it would be for him but no speedway promotion would pay that in this climate. Just look at the announcement of the rent reduction at Workington. The BSPA seem to be leaving the decision on who will promote at Mildenhall to a man whose only interest is getting the highest rent possible. Finally just to say, this is not a dig at Mr Coventry who I dont know I am just going on what has been published, but it just seems strange to me but then with what has happened to the Elite league at the AGM perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) I suppose though if the BSPA made a decision on who should promote Mildenhall Speedway, then for whatever reason Dave Coventry doesnt get on with them, finacially/personnally/ ?? then no speedway for Mildenhall again. Dave Coventry is in the driving seat as there are currently no other places to race. Might aswell let him find someone who he can agree terms and feel comfortable with from the outset, then those individuals have to be cleared by the BSPA to run speedway. If there were options for venues then it could be totally in the hands of the BSPA, but without Dave Covenrty/Mildenhall stadium, then there is no speedway to talk about. Edited November 27, 2010 by Damon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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2ndbendpostie Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 With Ipswich PL, and the announcement of Peterborough not running.. if Lynn do indeed go EL, I assume there will be no local derby opportunities? Are the young Stars not having a team next season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Although it looks like there may be some positive news about Mildenhall I am concerned that it looks like the BSPA have left the decision on who the new promotion may be to Dave Coventry who is a stock car promoter and has no background in speedway !! I thought proposals went to the BSPA (who now own the Mildenhall licence) and they would decide who was "fit and proper" to own the licence to run the Fen Tigers. Then, like other clubs, those people would talk to Mr Coventry, who owns the stadium about rent etc. It seems that in this case, its the other way round and Mr Coventry is deciding who will promote at Mildenhall. That cannot be right surely ?!? One of my major concerns on this is that of self interest. Mr Coventry has stated that he thinks that £1200 rent is acceptable. Well it would be for him but no speedway promotion would pay that in this climate. Just look at the announcement of the rent reduction at Workington. The BSPA seem to be leaving the decision on who will promote at Mildenhall to a man whose only interest is getting the highest rent possible. Finally just to say, this is not a dig at Mr Coventry who I dont know I am just going on what has been published, but it just seems strange to me but then with what has happened to the Elite league at the AGM perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore. I think Damon is right. Whoever the BSPA might consider to be appropriate for Mildenhall Dave Coventry is the stadium owner and if he doesn't want them that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 I suppose though if the BSPA made a decision on who should promote Mildenhall Speedway, then for whatever reason Dave Coventry doesnt get on with them, finacially/personnally/ ?? then no speedway for Mildenhall again. Dave Coventry is in the driving seat as there are currently no other places to race. Might aswell let him find someone who he can agree terms and feel comfortable with from the outset, then those individuals have to be cleared by the BSPA to run speedway. If there were options for venues then it could be totally in the hands of the BSPA, but without Dave Covenrty/Mildenhall stadium, then there is no speedway to talk about. Agree with that, good post mate! Whoever comes in must have a positive working relationship with the stadium owner, or as you say there is no speedway to talk about. It is good to hear Dave Coventry say he wants it professionally run, and he seems to have good ideas on fixture organisation which is good to hear, if stadium owner and promoter can work together we may have a positive future at Mildenhall to look forward to. Below is an article from the CEN (DavidC)which seems to be positive "Dave Coventry has assured supporters that Mildenhall will be represented at the National League’s annual meeting in a fortnight where the club’s future will be discussed. Confirmation of the meeting at the BSPA’s headquarters in Rugby on December 7 was the only relevant news concerning the National League to emerge from the sport’s annual conference at the weekend. "I’m talking with three parties at the moment," said Coventry, the West Row stadium boss, "and it should all be happening this week. There will be someone representing Mildenhall at the meeting next month, either myself, a representative of one of the parties or a new promoter." Coventry also outlined work to improve the grandstand facilities at the stadium as it continues to be well supported for other motor sports and greyhound racing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Although it looks like there may be some positive news about Mildenhall I am concerned that it looks like the BSPA have left the decision on who the new promotion may be to Dave Coventry who is a stock car promoter and has no background in speedway !! I thought proposals went to the BSPA (who now own the Mildenhall licence) and they would decide who was "fit and proper" to own the licence to run the Fen Tigers. Then, like other clubs, those people would talk to Mr Coventry, who owns the stadium about rent etc. It seems that in this case, its the other way round and Mr Coventry is deciding who will promote at Mildenhall. That cannot be right surely ?!? One of my major concerns on this is that of self interest. Mr Coventry has stated that he thinks that £1200 rent is acceptable. Well it would be for him but no speedway promotion would pay that in this climate. Just look at the announcement of the rent reduction at Workington. The BSPA seem to be leaving the decision on who will promote at Mildenhall to a man whose only interest is getting the highest rent possible. Finally just to say, this is not a dig at Mr Coventry who I dont know I am just going on what has been published, but it just seems strange to me but then with what has happened to the Elite league at the AGM perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore. Maybe Dave Coventry's "self interest" is because he is the stadium owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Are the young Stars not having a team next season ? Ugh, ignore that - my computer showed me with the KL 2011 thread open which I replied to... then it showed this topic, then the forum proceeded to crash, and told me afterwards it hadn't been posted... Joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Although it looks like there may be some positive news about Mildenhall I am concerned that it looks like the BSPA have left the decision on who the new promotion may be to Dave Coventry who is a stock car promoter and has no background in speedway !! I thought proposals went to the BSPA (who now own the Mildenhall licence) and they would decide who was "fit and proper" to own the licence to run the Fen Tigers. Then, like other clubs, those people would talk to Mr Coventry, who owns the stadium about rent etc. It seems that in this case, its the other way round and Mr Coventry is deciding who will promote at Mildenhall. That cannot be right surely ?!? One of my major concerns on this is that of self interest. Mr Coventry has stated that he thinks that £1200 rent is acceptable. Well it would be for him but no speedway promotion would pay that in this climate. Just look at the announcement of the rent reduction at Workington. The BSPA seem to be leaving the decision on who will promote at Mildenhall to a man whose only interest is getting the highest rent possible. Finally just to say, this is not a dig at Mr Coventry who I dont know I am just going on what has been published, but it just seems strange to me but then with what has happened to the Elite league at the AGM perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichkev Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Understand where you are coming from, and on face value the rent might seem high - however, and I am sure somebody will put me right if I am wrong, I think there are other matters that Dave Coventry looks after i.e. removing the concrete blocks on the centre green to name but one, and I am sure there are others. We must not forget that the stadium is a commercial business of which Speedway is only a part - but it has to show a positive contribution or why would Dave Coventry want to entertain it? Having listened to Dave C talk just once, unscripted after the last promotion collapsed I left impressed, hard talking BUT also impressing points that needed to be taken seiously such as 1) the need for a promoter to promote - sounds simple, but for most of us the past few years an area that had been largely neglected and just as importantly 2) ( I wont have this word for word )The answer is not just put up the entrance price - everything has a value and cannot be overpriced or the public will vote with their feet. Personally I have confidence that Dave C will pick the best option from those available ( looking at the mess the BSPA have made of the Elite - self interest? - I would not want them having any part of any decision ) - yes, he does have another vested interest because I am not sure that he can afford to have another false dawn for the Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCBFAN1 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 I really do hope that Mildenhall come back. I am a Poole fan and was born in Poole, but my wife comes from Wymondham and thus I have seen a couple of matches at West Row whilst bisiting the delightful in-laws. Both matches (one at Premier League and the other at National League level) were very entertaining and reasonably well supported. I would love to pay another visit in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 (edited) At least it looks like there will be at least 1 Coventry in Speedway this season! Hope Mildy succeed & race again! Great wee place! Edited November 29, 2010 by icicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Although it looks like there may be some positive news about Mildenhall I am concerned that it looks like the BSPA have left the decision on who the new promotion may be to Dave Coventry who is a stock car promoter and has no background in speedway !! I thought proposals went to the BSPA (who now own the Mildenhall licence) and they would decide who was "fit and proper" to own the licence to run the Fen Tigers. Then, like other clubs, those people would talk to Mr Coventry, who owns the stadium about rent etc. It seems that in this case, its the other way round and Mr Coventry is deciding who will promote at Mildenhall. That cannot be right surely ?!? One of my major concerns on this is that of self interest. Mr Coventry has stated that he thinks that £1200 rent is acceptable. Well it would be for him but no speedway promotion would pay that in this climate. Just look at the announcement of the rent reduction at Workington. The BSPA seem to be leaving the decision on who will promote at Mildenhall to a man whose only interest is getting the highest rent possible. Finally just to say, this is not a dig at Mr Coventry who I dont know I am just going on what has been published, but it just seems strange to me but then with what has happened to the Elite league at the AGM perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore. Don't think anyone who talks sense and thinks logically would disagree with any of this - good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Understand where you are coming from, and on face value the rent might seem high - however, and I am sure somebody will put me right if I am wrong, I think there are other matters that Dave Coventry looks after i.e. removing the concrete blocks on the centre green to name but one, and I am sure there are others. What's that about..? Are these concrete blocks moved on and off the centre green..? If so, pardon my ignorance but what on earth is the reason for that..?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosetash64 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 The concrete blocks are placed round the inside of the bends to stop the stock cars from cuttting the corners. They are removed prior to a speedway meeting as i'm sure u'd understand, with each block weighing best part of a ton, nobody would want a rider to hit one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 The concrete blocks are placed round the inside of the bends to stop the stock cars from cuttting the corners. They are removed prior to a speedway meeting as i'm sure u'd understand, with each block weighing best part of a ton, nobody would want a rider to hit one of them! Blimey - thanx: I didn't know that! That's one heck of a big operation just to stop cars cutting a corner! No-one worried about the safety of the drivers coming face to face with several tonnes of concrete then..?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibralta Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Blimey - thanx: I didn't know that! That's one heck of a big operation just to stop cars cutting a corner! No-one worried about the safety of the drivers coming face to face with several tonnes of concrete then..?!! Sledge Hammer to crack a Nut springs to mind - but I guess that's how refined the sport is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendpostie Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Sledge Hammer to crack a Nut springs to mind - but I guess that's how refined the sport is. Refined/unrefined ?? A matter of opinion I suppose, but better supported than speedway ??, certainly, and that I feel is why Mr Coventry will hold out for the amount of rent thats been mentioned on this thread, which some have suggested might be to high. After speedway ceased at West Row during the summer, there were quite a few Sunday afternoon banger meetings held there, with the turnstiles being kept very busy, its my guess that the revenue generated would be in excess of the rent being asked for hire of the stadium for speedway. So assuming he wins his court case re the noise etc, then if no one comes up with the readies for speedway to re commence, than he will just organise extra banger meetings, so he is really in a bit of a win/win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Parsloes 1928 No-one worried about the safety of the drivers coming face to face with several tonnes of concrete then Not really any different to hitting the stockcar concrete and armco steel fence at Mildenhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Refined/unrefined ?? A matter of opinion I suppose, but better supported than speedway ??, certainly, and that I feel is why Mr Coventry will hold out for the amount of rent thats been mentioned on this thread, which some have suggested might be to high. After speedway ceased at West Row during the summer, there were quite a few Sunday afternoon banger meetings held there, with the turnstiles being kept very busy, its my guess that the revenue generated would be in excess of the rent being asked for hire of the stadium for speedway. So assuming he wins his court case re the noise etc, then if no one comes up with the readies for speedway to re commence, than he will just organise extra banger meetings, so he is really in a bit of a win/win situation. Not so sure on that one, postie. While they do pull 10 times the speedway attendances, banger meetings are still held on alternate weekends as Dave Coventry promotes at Dover every fortnight as well as at Mildenhall. With speedway running on the off Saturday for bangers, it means he gets rent and food takings every week so it makes financial sense for him to have speedway there. It just comes down to a compromise between what he wants and what a speedway promotion would be prepared to pay. I got told he accepted a rent of £800pw last year, only for the bid to fail because of the court action. Having had dealings with him, with only one exception I have found him to a be a reasonable and pragmatic man who says it how he sees it. I don't rule out Dave being named as promoter himself with volunteers running it on match days. I am very optimistic that speedway will not only return, but that it may stay for seasons to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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