Stoke Potters

[liverpool chad]

Liverpool Chad, I'm not much for your tone...son!

 

I really don't think you have any right to come here lecturing a genuine Stoke fan for his views on Stoke Speedway!

 

 

GENUINE STOKE FANS!!!

 

If either of you were genuine, than you would both be at Loomer Road next season to follow your local team! But it seems that one of you isn't that genuine.

[liverpool chad]

Liverpool chad, oh dear, what we have with you is yet another moron from out of town that knows diddly squat about any other teams affairs only what you read on here.

Tell me this, have you attended Stoke speedway at all ? regular even ? if the ansewrs are no, then dont even bother replying, if you want to help the Tattums so much, send em a cheque, i'm sure they'd love it.

Other than that i dont have much more to say to you other than run along and go and stick your nose in someone elses business.

Everton as well, sums you right up. twit.

 

 

For your infomation I first attended Stoke speedway at Sun St in the 1960's when they were based in hanley. and have been to Loomer road at least 10-12 times a season since the early seventies (1973 if i recall) when the team was called Chesterton.

 

P.S. What Everton have got to do with the argument is anybodys guess It usually is the reaction of an uneducated, unintelligent, juvenile. They come up with childish statements like the one highlighted! As i said in one of my previous posts. If you can't think of a better alternative than dropping into the NL to save money, then don't bother getting involved in the debate.

[semion]

I have one tiny little question with regard to Stoke 2011. Will there be a conflict of interests between Tatum and Vasey ? One is a big advocate of bringing young riders through and using the League as it is intended, a devolpment league. The other will surely want a winning team to keep the punters happy. Now I am not saying one is excluded at the expense of the other.

[Swift Saint]

I have one tiny little question with regard to Stoke 2011. Will there be a conflict of interests between Tatum and Vasey ? One is a big advocate of bringing young riders through and using the League as it is intended, a devolpment league. The other will surely want a winning team to keep the punters happy. Now I am not saying one is excluded at the expense of the other.

 

An incredibly short sighted post from you Semion given my record at Scunthorpe. In year two we had the three most exciting youngsters of the day in Saints colours and I was very pleased with the team assembled for last season before I left with Steve Worrall the last rider I ever signed at Scunthorpe one of the hottest one year prospects in speedway. In my view he is ready for the Premier League. And he is not the only one.

 

No clash between Dave Tatum and myself. We have to start with a competitive team at least transitionally until we start to recruit our own youngsters and I feel confident that I can do that. Look at the Scunthorpe teams of the last three years. Scunthorpe now rich in young riders despite losing the 15 year olds last winter.

 

So dont worry about us - the strategy is clear, the plans are already discussed and I look forward to it. It has to be better than no speedway at all for the Potters and we will do our utmost to rise again. I am gutted that our supporters are having to go through this phase but I am geared up to do my utmost on their behalf and for the CLub.

 

Malcolm Vasey

[semion]

An incredibly short sighted post from you Semion given my record at Scunthorpe. In year two we had the three most exciting youngsters of the day in Saints colours and I was very pleased with the team assembled for last season before I left with Steve Worrall the last rider I ever signed at Scunthorpe one of the hottest one year prospects in speedway. In my view he is ready for the Premier League. And he is not the only one.

 

No clash between Dave Tatum and myself. We have to start with a competitive team at least transitionally until we start to recruit our own youngsters and I feel confident that I can do that. Look at the Scunthorpe teams of the last three years. Scunthorpe now rich in young riders despite losing the 15 year olds last winter.

 

So dont worry about us - the strategy is clear, the plans are already discussed and I look forward to it. It has to be better than no speedway at all for the Potters and we will do our utmost to rise again. I am gutted that our supporters are having to go through this phase but I am geared up to do my utmost on their behalf and for the CLub.

 

Malcolm Vasey

 

 

You may call it short sighted ( or anything you wish) All i did was pose a question. You have been a great campaigner for Youth to be developed within the 3rd tier of British Speedway. My question was would your postion be compromised by looking for short term success to apease the fans , who may feel slightly agrieved by the drop in level for the Stoke team.

 

You have now had to cross back to a stand alone club again, so maybe your principles will have to take a little bit of a back seat, in the interests of commercial success.

Edited November 24, 2010 by semion

[waco]

An incredibly short sighted post from you Semion given my record at Scunthorpe. In year two we had the three most exciting youngsters of the day in Saints colours and I was very pleased with the team assembled for last season before I left with Steve Worrall the last rider I ever signed at Scunthorpe one of the hottest one year prospects in speedway. In my view he is ready for the Premier League. And he is not the only one.

 

No clash between Dave Tatum and myself. We have to start with a competitive team at least transitionally until we start to recruit our own youngsters and I feel confident that I can do that. Look at the Scunthorpe teams of the last three years. Scunthorpe now rich in young riders despite losing the 15 year olds last winter.

 

So dont worry about us - the strategy is clear, the plans are already discussed and I look forward to it. It has to be better than no speedway at all for the Potters and we will do our utmost to rise again. I am gutted that our supporters are having to go through this phase but I am geared up to do my utmost on their behalf and for the CLub.

 

Malcolm Vasey

Good luck next season i am sure you will assemble an atractive side at Stoke next year Malcolm,,look forward to meeting up for a chat at Stoke and Rye..

[big lad]

needn't bother getting any team together, because if you look on Potters power they have a poll going, and on there supporters clearly state (over two thirds of them)that they will not be turning up for NL racing, me included, so they will not last the season.

[vog]

needn't bother getting any team together, because if you look on Potters power they have a poll going, and on there supporters clearly state (over two thirds of them)that they will not be turning up for NL racing, me included, so they will not last the season.

 

Actually, in a poll, 73 people have responded. 25 say they will attend, 34 won't, 14 will attend the odd one. This poll is littered with problems as it was done the day after the news, so peoples emotions were still raw. Irrespective that it doesn't add up to "Over two thirds", it is still only a small minority of the fans who attend Stoke Speedway.

[Halifaxtiger]

TThe pc crashed as i was posting, and what went on couldnt be changed, which sadly was a quote of your drivel.

 

Right, how often do you go to Stoke speedway ? ive missed no more than a handful of meetings over many years.

Ive provided materials and painted the majority of the stadium, ive given up Friday nights out to go down and erect the fence (before the air fence days), ive given up Saturdays to help out and gone down in the week after work to do bits.

Last season i organised a trip to Edinburgh and Berwick to follow the team, the club provided no travel to these fixtures and never do to league fixtures. Dont forget, they are a promotion.

Now then, ive done my bit over the years, and im a bit fed up of hearing their excuses when they sit on their hands doing bugger all to help themselves.

 

I'd say that makes your reaction even harder to understand - a passionate supporter who doesn't just attend matches but but helps out both on match days and before hand and organises trips.

 

I cannot believe that someone like that cannot accept the reality of the situation, embrace the fact that the team that he has supported for so long will continue to ride and look forward to the new season. I say that because that's exactly how I felt when Mildenhall dropped into the NL in 2009, and I'd say my commitment to them at that time matched yours.

 

I have one tiny little question with regard to Stoke 2011. Will there be a conflict of interests between Tatum and Vasey ? One is a big advocate of bringing young riders through and using the League as it is intended, a devolpment league. The other will surely want a winning team to keep the punters happy. Now I am not saying one is excluded at the expense of the other.

 

There's no reason why they can't have both - in actual fact, that's the way most NL teams run.

 

It'll be interesting to see whether Malcolm continues to support a 34 or 36pt limit now that he is at a stand alone club

[wessexboy]

What is wrong with NL racing i would watch NL racing rather than any other league racing

 

Lee Smart rode in the NL last year and believe he was No 1 for Stoke for while last season (the NL is not a league for wobblers it is a good standard)

 

If some of the upset stoke fans think back to the old Stoke teams which they used to watch in the 70,s and 80,s i would say they were no better than the NL league teams are now

[Swift Saint]

needn't bother getting any team together, because if you look on Potters power they have a poll going, and on there supporters clearly state (over two thirds of them)that they will not be turning up for NL racing, me included, so they will not last the season.

 

I'd just like to put this in perspective with these details from the Potters Power Poll

 

33% will continue to go

 

45% will not be going

 

20.27% will go sometimes

 

The poll is by 74 persons.

 

Therefore at least 95% have not voted at all.

 

 

I agree with VOG. This poll is misleading and exaggerated by big lad I presume to convice people.

 

I suggest that the poll is meaningless unless 700 or 800 vote

 

I understand some people are unhappy. I am unhappy and so is Dave Tattum. But National League is better than no League at all and no speedway at Loomer Road.

 

You have been a great campaigner for Youth to be developed within the 3rd tier of British Speedway. My question was would your postion be compromised by looking for short term success to apease the fans ,

 

Have a look at my first team at Scunthorpe in 2008 before injuries etc struck.

 

The fans of Stoke deserve a succesful team and that's what we aim to have. None more so than me.

 

 

Malcolm Vasey

Edited November 24, 2010 by Proud Potter

[montie]

needn't bother getting any team together, because if you look on Potters power they have a poll going, and on there supporters clearly state (over two thirds of them)that they will not be turning up for NL racing, me included, so they will not last the season.

 

That seems to be fairly daft,its as if you quite like bad news

 

Fact is the NL produces some of the best racing you will see,some of it which i saw at scunny this year was as good as anything you will see anywhere,ok we have a track which gives great racing week in week out,but the riders still have a huge part to play in it

 

Good luck stoke

[big lad]

Malcolm, we hear the same thing every year, about this team is going to be great etc.

You state that it should be a poll of 700 to 800 , well if that was the gate , then why the hell are we in the NL

[builderbob]

cant understand what all the fuss is about, stoke of recent times have rarely had a team that was much better than national league standard

[speedy bill]

Big lad how can you call yourself a stoke supporter,all you do is moan they will be better off without you and your mates if you have any.If you do change your mind and go to stoke you will be treated to some of the best speedway you have seen for years.Ithink the national league gives you far better entertainment than the elite or premire. ps how come i have still got a warn status

Edited November 24, 2010 by bw double

[redneck]

Can you people from elsewhere not understand or realise, the biggest gripe with the fans is about the clowns that run the place, nothing at all to do with NL speedway.

 

Chad man, think what you like, people like you want to get out more instead of commenting on every club in the land, seems to me alls you want to do on this topic is make enemies.

[liverpool chad]

 

 

Right, how often do you go to Stoke speedway ? ive missed no more than a handful of meetings over many years.

Ive provided materials and painted the majority of the stadium, ive given up Friday nights out to go down and erect the fence (before the air fence days), ive given up Saturdays to help out and gone down in the week after work to do bits.

Last season i organised a trip to Edinburgh and Berwick to follow the team, the club provided no travel to these fixtures and never do to league fixtures. Dont forget, they are a promotion.

Now then, ive done my bit over the years, and im a bit fed up of hearing their excuses when they sit on their hands doing bugger all to help themselves.

 

I dont see how my other response is immature, are you on this planet??? or are you some sort of weirdo that goes any where to watch speedway?

 

When i have top flight football on my door step, i dont see what business it is of yours if i decide to go to watch it.

 

Seeing as you are so concerned about this stoke thread, then no doubt you turn up for every meeting. If you dont,by all means you have your views, but dont keep hammering me for mine when i have done my bit over the years to keep the place solvent.

 

 

Right first of all. Like i stated in a reply to another poster, I first attended Stoke Speedway at Sun Street in the 1960's, and have attended at Loomer Road since they were called Chesterton in around 1973. My wife and i attend around ten or twelve meetings a season at Stoke. Now i am aware that this is by no means anything like what your commitment has been over the years to Stoke. But i was not questioning what your commitment has been to stoke, but more so your commitment to Stoke while they are dropping down to NL.

 

Secondly, Your response was a little immature in that you have a pop at other speedway fans who travel from afar, calling them anoraks and now weirdos! while you state that, You yourself will travel to Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Buxton in the future to get your FIX. So are you telling everyone on here that when this happen's, YOU will be a quote ANORAK & A WEIRDO ?

 

On the football quote, Your right, it's none of my business. But if you can find anywhere in my posts that states otherwise, then your a good un!

 

Yes i am concerned about (this Stoke thread) as i am about the future of speedway at Loomer Road! I've seen some good riders come through from that track, Steve Bastable, Les Collins and Paul Thorp to name but three, and i've had lots of great memories and met some wonderful people down there. So as i say "yes i am concerned".

 

Ive called myself nothing. Unlike you who likes to come across as some sort of martyr that travels all over to keep clubs going. If you wish to carry your digs on then pm me and we`ll do it that way so as we dont bore others with our difference of opinion.

 

I will not engage in a discussion by PM as i feel this is an open thread and all views should be there for everyone to see!

[redneck]

Chad, if you are concerned as you say then you'd realise that the problem being that we are in this position is because of the present promotion, you have said you go a dozen meetings a year or so every year, so if you dont know by now how they operate you never will.

Getting boring now, perhaps see you there one day.

[liverpool chad]

Can you people from elsewhere not understand or realise, the biggest gripe with the fans is about the clowns that run the place, nothing at all to do with NL speedway.

 

Chad man, think what you like, people like you want to get out more instead of commenting on every club in the land, seems to me alls you want to do on this topic is make enemies.

 

Redneck, If you've got a gripe about the promotion at Stoke, then thats fair enough! Tell people, what your gripe is, what you think the promotion are doing wrong, and most importantly what you feel they should do to address the problem! I personally don't see how someone can rip into the promotion at Stoke or anywhere else for that matter, about whats going wrong there, without having an alternative solution and the methodin place to implement the said solution.

 

The whole point of an internet forum is to air your views and let other people know what your thinking!

If i got out more, id never be in But it beats talking to the wife!

Just because two people have contrasting views does not make them enemies! People who live outside of the boundarys of the city of Stoke have a right to a viewpoint regarding the future of it's local speedway track.

 

On i much lighter note, What's your problem with Everton fans?

[stooge]

Secondly, Your response was a little immature in that you have a pop at other speedway fans who travel from afar, calling them anoraks and now weirdos! while you state that, You yourself will travel to Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Buxton in the future to get your FIX. So are you telling everyone on here that when this happen's, YOU will be a quote ANORAK & A WEIRDO ?

 

 

If you are going to highlight my posts and have a pop, then leave out the play on words. I had a pop at YOU, no other travelling speedway fans. I have travelled all over to watch to Stoke, so why would post that when it would include me.

I havent stated that i WILL travel anywhere, i mentioned the places you have brought up IF I fancied a speedway fix.

What makes you so high and mighty on Stoke speedway and why fans who have put far more in than you are so wrong?

I have no issue with the NL, just the promotion and its half arsed way of doing things. Would you like to pop down and do some work there yourself over the winter ? theres plenty to be done.