frenchy Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Sad person that I am I have been 'computerising' the meeting details from 1979. When I came across Cradley's record I was really impressed. You see I made it that Cradley (or Dudley Wood) had been involved in 101 meetings during the season. And it was a season that finished on the 10th Nov for them too ! This list includes rain off's (which Cradley seemed to attract) but is still impressive. The breakdown, for anyone interested is - Challenge matches - 8 home, 7 away, 5 postponed League - 17 home & away, 9 postponed Cup - 8 home, 7 away, 1 postponed Individual - 2 4's meetings - 1 home, 9 away, 1 postponed Midland Cup - 2 home & away Pairs - 3 home, 1 postponed and a test match. I think the nearest to this number of meetings that one club has been involved with in a season that I can recollect was Birmingham around 1949 with 85 ish. Discounting postponed meetings the club was still involved in 84 meetings (42 at home - good VFM). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Sad person that I am I have been 'computerising' the meeting details from 1979. When I came across Cradley's record I was really impressed. You see I made it that Cradley (or Dudley Wood) had been involved in 101 meetings during the season. And it was a season that finished on the 10th Nov for them too ! Yes indeed Nov 10 1979 at Cradley for the Nigel Wasley memorial meeting - remember it well as it was pretty cold that night! Two best pairs events, one won by Ila Teromaa & Alan Grahame and the other by Nigel Flatman & Mike Spink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Sad person that I am I have been 'computerising' the meeting details from 1979. When I came across Cradley's record I was really impressed. You see I made it that Cradley (or Dudley Wood) had been involved in 101 meetings during the season. And it was a season that finished on the 10th Nov for them too ! Dan McCormick wasn't much for a night off! I would like to compare lists with you if possible. I have an equally sad record of meeting details and have a measly 99 entries for the 1979 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted December 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Dan McCormick wasn't much for a night off! I would like to compare lists with you if possible. I have an equally sad record of meeting details and have a measly 99 entries for the 1979 season I don't know if the format will hold but here is a list of meeting details that I've come across (amendments welcome) - Home Challenge (Kawasaki Trophy) 17/03/1979 Bastable's English v Penhall's Overseas Postponed Home Challenge (Kawasaki Trophy) 24/03/1979 Bastable's English v Penhall's Overseas 39 39 Home Challenge 26/03/1979 Belle Vue Rain Away Challenge 27/03/1979 Leicester Rain Away Challenge 30/03/1979 Wolverhampton 44 34 Away League 31/03/1979 Halifax 31 46 Home Challenge 02/04/1979 Belle Vue 39 39 Away Challenge 03/04/1979 Leicester Rain Home League 07/04/1979 Ipswich Rain Away IL 4 Team Qualifier 13/04/1979 Belle Vue v Wolverhampton v Ellesmere Port Rain Home League 14/04/1979 Reading 40 38 Away League 15/04/1979 Eastbourne 41 36 Home Challenge 16/04/1979 Leicester 44 34 Away League 21/04/1979 Coventry 36 42 Home Challenge 23/04/1979 Wolverhampton 50 27 Away League 26/04/1979 Ipswich 45 33 Away IL 4 Team Qualifier 27/04/1979 Belle Vue v Wolverhampton v Ellesmere Port 35 10-38-4 Home IL 4 Team Qualifier 28/04/1979 Belle Vue v Wolverhampton v Ellesmere Port 34 16-39-7 Away IL 4 Team Qualifier 29/04/1979 Belle Vue v Wolverhampton v Ellesmere Port 30 17-31-18 Individual (World Championship Qualifier) 05/05/1979 Steve Bastable & Vic Harding Individual (GP Qualifier) 05/05/1979 Bruce Penhall Away League 07/05/1979 Belle Vue Rain Home League 07/05/1979 Belle Vue Rain Home Challenge 12/05/1979 Leicester 75 33 Home League 14/05/1979 Belle Vue 46 32 Away IL 4 Team Qualifier 15/05/1979 Belle Vue v Wolverhampton v Ellesmere Port 35 35-18-8 Away IL KO Cup round 1 18/05/1979 Peterborough 51 27 Home League 19/05/1979 Eastbourne 51 27 Away League 21/05/1979 Exeter 33 45 Home League 26/05/1979 Birmingham Rain Home Challenge 28/05/1979 Hull 55 23 Away KO Cup r1 leg 1 29/05/1979 Leicester 68 40 Away Challenge 30/05/1979 Poole Rain Home League 02/06/1979 Coventry 49 29 Away 4 Team Challenge (Skol Midland) 04/06/1979 Birmingham v Leicester v Wolverhampton 34 34-24-4 Away Midland Cup r1 leg 1 08/06/1979 Wolverhampton 38 39 Home Midland Cup r1 leg 2 09/06/1979 Wolverhampton 46 32 Away League 11/06/1979 Birmingham 41 37 Home KO Cup r1 leg 2 16/06/1979 Leicester 66 42 Pairs (Courage ATV Pairs) 16/06/1979 Bruce Penhall & Bobby Schwartz Away 4 Team Challenge 22/06/1979 Coventry v Sheffield v Wolverhampton 33 17-20-26 Home League 23/06/1979 Hackney 50 25 Away IL 4 Team Final 24/06/1979 Exeter v Hackney v Hull 21 30-8-36 Away IL 4 Team Semi 24/06/1979 Coventry v Hackney v Wolverhampton 32 19-24-21 Home League 30/06/1979 Wolverhampton 47 31 Home Challenge 07/07/1979 Cradley Supporters Select v American All Stars 26 52 Away League 11/07/1979 Belle Vue 36 42 Away League 12/07/1979 Sheffield 34 44 Home League 14/07/1979 Birmingham 51 27 Away League 18/07/1979 Poole 37 41 Home League 21/07/1979 Sheffield 45 33 Individual (Golden Hammer) 25/07/1979 Bobby Schwartz Home League 28/07/1979 Hull 41 37 Away League 29/07/1979 Eastbourne Rain Away Midland Cup Semi 1 01/08/1979 Coventry 32 46 Home League 04/08/1979 Poole 47 31 Away League 06/08/1979 Reading 46 32 Home Midland Cup Semi 2 08/08/1979 Coventry 44 34 Away KO Cup r2 leg 1 09/08/1979 Wimbledon 53 54 Home Challenge 11/08/1979 Wolverhampton 50 28 Away Challenge 12/08/1979 Wolverhampton 39 39 Away League 17/08/1979 King's Lynn Rain Home League 18/08/1979 Wimbledon Abandoned after 4 heats 14 10 Home Test 22/08/1979 England v Australasia 72 36 Home League 25/08/1979 King's Lynn 49 29 Home League 27/08/1979 Swindon 50 28 Away Challenge 31/08/1979 Workington 46 32 Pairs (Badge of Courage Pairs) 01/09/1979 Bruce Penhall & Bobby Schwartz Away League 04/09/1979 Leicester 37 41 Home League 08/09/1979 Ipswich 52 26 Home KO Cup r2 leg 2 10/09/1979 Wimbledon 78 29 Away League 13/09/1979 Wimbledon 42 36 Home IL KO Cup round 2 15/09/1979 Exeter 49 29 Away KO Cup r3 leg 1 21/09/1979 Wolverhampton 56 52 Home League 22/09/1979 Wimbledon 57 21 Home KO Cup r3 leg 2 24/09/1979 Wolverhampton 71 37 Away League 26/09/1979 Hull 37 41 Home League 29/09/1979 Leicester 53 24 Away 4 Team Challenge 30/09/1979 Belle Vue v Ellesmere Port v Stoke 31 37-11-17 Home IL KO Cup Semi 01/10/1979 Hull 50 27 Away League 03/10/1979 King's Lynn 31 47 Away League 05/10/1979 Hackney 41 37 Home KO Cup Semi 1 06/10/1979 Halifax Abandoned after 11 heats. STANDS 43 23 Away KO Cup Semi 2 07/10/1979 Halifax 59 49 Away Challenge 10/10/1979 Nottingham Rain Away Challenge 11/10/1979 Oxford 42 36 Home League 13/10/1979 Exeter Rain Home KO Cup Final 1 13/10/1979 Hull 62 46 Away KO Cup Final 2 17/10/1979 Hull Abandoned after 7 heats 23 19 Away League 19/10/1979 Wolverhampton Rain Home IL KO Cup Final 1 22/10/1979 King's Lynn 43 35 Away IL KO Cup Final 2 24/10/1979 King's Lynn 42 36 Away League 25/10/1979 Swindon 38 40 Away League 26/10/1979 Wolverhampton 45 33 Home League 27/10/1979 Exeter 57 21 Away 4 Team Challenge (Ernie Park Memorial Fours) 28/10/1979 Belle Vue v Ellesmere Port v Yorkshire Select 15 17-42-22 Home League 29/10/1979 Halifax 64 14 Away Challenge 30/10/1979 Nottingham Rain Away KO Cup Final 2 31/10/1979 Hull 58 50 Pairs (Nigel Wasley Memorial meeting Courage Pairs) 03/11/1979 Rain Pairs (Nigel Wasley Memorial meeting TSB Pairs) 03/11/1979 Rain Pairs (Nigel Wasley Memorial meeting Courage Pairs) 10/11/1979 Nigel Flatman & Mike Spink Pairs (Nigel Wasley Memorial meeting TSB Pairs) 10/11/1979 Alan Grahame & Ila Teromaa One difference is that I've double counted the World Championship/GP meeting (I definitely didn't double count the Wasley memorial meetings). I suspect that the other difference could be the pairs meeting on the 16th June - which was presumably held after the Leicester Cup match. Sources are the Yearbook covering 1979 & the Speedway Researcher website. Whether 99 or 101 it's still an impressive number of meetings IMHO and one we're never likely to see again. PS. When previewing this it doesn't look like it's kept the format - sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) Our list is as follows (again losing the table formatting unfortunately): DATE MATCH TYPE H/A VERSUS RESULT/WINNER 17/03/1979 CH H CRADLEY - ENGLISH SELECT v OVERSEAS RAINED OFF 24/03/1979 CH H ENGLISH SELECT v OVERSEAS 39-39 26/03/1979 CH H CRADLEY v BELLE VUE RAINED OFF 27/03/1979 CH A Leicester v Cradley RAINED OFF 30/03/1979 CH A Wolves v Cradley 34-44 31/03/1979 BL A Halifax v Cradley 46-31 02/04/1979 CH H CRADLEY v BELLE VUE 39-39 03/04/1979 CH A Leicester v Cradley RAINED OFF 07/04/1979 BL H CRADLEY v IPSWICH RAINED OFF 14/04/1979 BL H CRADLEY v READING 40-38 15/04/1979 BL A Eastbourne v Cradley 36-41 16/04/1979 CH H CRADLEY v LEICESTER 44-34 21/04/1979 BL A Coventry v Cradley 42-36 23/04/1979 CH H CRADLEY v WOLVES 50-27 26/04/1979 BL A Ipswich v Cradley 33-45 27/04/1979 4TT A Wolves v Cradley v Belle Vue v Ellesmere Port 38-35-19-4 28/04/1979 4TT H CRA v B.V. v E.P. v WOL. 34-16-7-39 29/04/1979 4TT A Ellesmere Port v Cradley v Wolves v Belle Vue 18-30-31-17 05/05/1979 IND H WC ROUND 1/ GRANDPRIX BRUCE PENHALL 07/05/1979 BL H CRADLEY v BELLE VUE RAINED OFF 07/05/1979 BL A Belle Vue v Cradley RAINED OFF 12/05/1979 CH H CRADLEY v LEICESTER 75-33 14/05/1979 BL H CRADLEY v BELLE VUE 46-32 15/05/1979 4TT A Belle Vue v Cradley v Wolves v Ellesmere Port 35-35-18-8 18/05/1979 ILC A Peterborough v Cradley 27-51 19/05/1979 BL H CRADLEY v EASTBOURNE 51-27 21/05/1979 BL A Exeter v Cradley 45-33 26/05/1979 BL H CRADLEY v BIRMINGHAM RAINED OFF 28/05/1979 CH H CRADLEY v HULL 55-23 29/05/1979 KOC A Leicester v Cradley 40-68 30/05/1979 CH A Poole v Cradley RAINED OFF 02/06/1979 BL H CRADLEY v COVENTRY 49-29 04/06/1979 4TT A Birmingham v Cradley v Wolves v Leicester 34-34-4-24 08/06/1979 MC A Wolves v Cradley 39-38 09/06/1979 MC H CRADLEY v WOLVES 46-32 11/06/1979 BL A Birmingham v Cradley 37-41 16/06/1979 KOC/PAIRS H CRADLEY v LEICESTER/TV TROPHY 66-42 / PENHALL/SCHWARTZ 22/06/1979 4TT A Wolves v Cradley v Sheffield v Coventry 26-33-20-17 23/06/1979 BL H CRADLEY v HACKNEY 50-25 24/06/1979 4TT A (Sheffield) Hull v Exeter v Cradley v Hackney 36-30-21-8 30/06/1979 BL H CRADLEY v WOLVES 47-31 07/07/1979 CH H SUP SEL/AMERICAN ALL 26-52 11/07/1979 BL A Belle Vue v Cradley 42-36 12/07/1979 BL A Sheffield v Cradley 44-34 14/07/1979 BL H CRADLEY v BIRMINGHAM 51-27 18/07/1979 BL A Poole v Cradley 41-37 21/07/1979 BL H CRADLEY v SHEFFIELD 45-33 25/07/1979 IND H GOLDEN HAMMER BOBBY SCHWARTZ 28/07/1979 BL H CRADLEY v HULL 41-37 29/07/1979 CH A Eastbourne v Cradley RAINED OFF 01/08/1979 MC A Coventry v Cradley 46-32 04/08/1979 BL H CRADLEY v POOLE 47-31 06/08/1979 BL A Reading v Cradley 32-46 08/08/1979 MC H CRADLEY v COVENTRY 44-34 09/08/1979 KOC A Wimbledon v Cradley 54-53 11/08/1979 DWT H CRADLEY v WOLVES 50-28 12/08/1979 DWT A Wolves v Cradley 39-39 17/08/1979 BL A Kings Lynn v Cradley RAINED OFF 18/08/1979 BL H CRADLEY v WIMBLEDON 14-10 - RAINED OFF - 14-10 22/08/1979 INTER H ENGLAND v AUSTRALASIA 72-36 25/08/1979 BL H CRADLEY v KINGS LYNN 49-29 27/08/1979 BL H CRADLEY v SWINDON 50-28 31/08/1979 ILCH A Workington v Cradley 32-46 01/09/1979 PAIRS H BADGE OF COURAGE B.PENHALL/B.SCHWARTZ 04/09/1979 BL A Leicester v Cradley 41-37 08/09/1979 BL H CRADLEY v IPSWICH 52-26 10/09/1979 KOC H CRADLEY v WIMBLEDON 78-29 13/09/1979 BL A Wimbledon v Cradley 36-42 15/09/1979 ILKOCQF H CRADLEY v EXETER 49-29 21/09/1979 KOC A Wolves v Cradley 52-56 22/09/1979 BL H CRADLEY v WIMBLEDON 57-21 24/09/1979 KOC H CRADLEY v WOLVES 71-37 26/09/1979 BL A Hull v Cradley 41-37 29/09/1979 BL H CRADLEY v LEICESTER 53-24 30/09/1979 4TT A Stoke v Cradley v Belle Vue v Ellesmere Port 17-31-37-11 01/10/1979 ILKOCSF H CRADLEY v HULL 50-27 03/10/1979 BL A Kings Lynn v Cradley 47-31 05/10/1979 BL A Hackney v Cradley 37-41 06/10/1979 KOC H CRADLEY v HALIFAX 43-23 - RAINED OFF after 11 heats 07/10/1979 KOCSF A Halifax v Cradley 49-59 10/10/1979 ILCH A Nottingham v Cradley RAINED OFF 11/10/1979 ILCH A Oxford v Cradley 36-42 13/10/1979 BL H CRADLEY v EXETER RAINED OFF 15/10/1979 KOCF H CRADLEY v HULL 62-45 17/10/1979 KOCF A Hull v Cradley 19-23 - RAINED OFF 19/10/1979 BL A Wolves v Cradley RAINED OFF 21/10/1979 PAIRS A Oxford - Northern Sports Pairs / Pip Lamb Benefit B.PENHALL/B.SCHWARTZ - G.Hunter/M.Handley 22/10/1979 ILKOCF H CRADLEY v KINGS LYNN 43-35 24/10/1979 ILKOCF A Kings Lynn v Cradley 36-42 25/10/1979 BL A Swindon v Cradley 40-38 26/10/1979 BL A Wolves v Cradley 33-45 27/10/1979 BL H CRADLEY v EXETER 57-21 28/10/1979 4TT A Ellesmere Port v Yorkshire v Belle Vue v Cradley 42-22-17-15 29/10/1979 BL H CRADLEY v HALIFAX 64-14 30/10/1979 ILCH A Nottingham v Cradley RAINED OFF 31/10/1979 KOCF A Hull v Cradley 50-58 03/11/1979 PAIRS H CRADLEY - NIGEL WASLEY MEMORIAL TROPHY RAINED OFF 04/11/1979 CH A Boston v Cradley 58.5-57.5/2-2 10/11/1979 PAIRS H NIGEL WASLEY MEMORIAL GRAH/TERRO & FLAT/SPINK Differences I could see: 13/4/79 4TT 5/5/79 Individual 24/6/79 - conflicting 4TT info 13/10/79 or 15/10/79 - I will need to check on that, different date and result for KOC Final 4/11/79 - challenge at Boston? 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Main Man Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 and as track announcer I still amazingly had a voice left at the end of the season!! and as programme compiler ( no computers then)a healthy supply of Tippex for my typewriter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Our list is as follows (again losing the table formatting unfortunately): Differences I could see: 13/4/79 4TT 5/5/79 Individual 24/6/79 - conflicting 4TT info 13/10/79 or 15/10/79 - I will need to check on that, different date and result for KOC Final 4/11/79 - challenge at Boston? The only sources I have available are from the Yearbook (97% reliable) and the results file from the Speedway Researcher (SR) website. However ...... with a bit of thought and checking the Hull 1979 file on the SR website your date of the 15th for the 1st leg must be correct as the Vikings were at Coventry on the 13th for the League showdown ! The match on the 4th November at Boston is one that I knew about but forgot to list (bother !). I think it was one of the forumla 5 challenges that Boston ran that year and was a benefit for the injured Steve Clarke. The 4TT on the 13th came from the SR file listed above. We've both got the individual on the 5th May listed. The 4TT on the 24th June you've got missing is the Semi, your details are for the Final (both Semis & final were held on the same day - 48 heats). At the end of the day it must have been a great year to have been a Cradley season ticket holder as well as a Cradley rider ! (BTW my team at the time was Reading, I was glad I missed our home match against the Heathens !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 The only sources I have available are from the Yearbook (97% reliable) and the results file from the Speedway Researcher (SR) website. However ...... with a bit of thought and checking the Hull 1979 file on the SR website your date of the 15th for the 1st leg must be correct as the Vikings were at Coventry on the 13th for the League showdown ! The match on the 4th November at Boston is one that I knew about but forgot to list (bother !). I think it was one of the forumla 5 challenges that Boston ran that year and was a benefit for the injured Steve Clarke. The 4TT on the 13th came from the SR file listed above. We've both got the individual on the 5th May listed. The 4TT on the 24th June you've got missing is the Semi, your details are for the Final (both Semis & final were held on the same day - 48 heats). At the end of the day it must have been a great year to have been a Cradley season ticket holder as well as a Cradley rider ! (BTW my team at the time was Reading, I was glad I missed our home match against the Heathens !) Thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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