Mateusz Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Does the bell toll for Przemyslaw Pawlicki's speedway career? http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2011/01/26/przemyslaw-pawlicki-jezeli-nie-znajdziemy-klubu-bedzie-ciezk/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsportowefakty%2Bzuzel%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26rlz%3D1G1TSEA_ENUK335%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhihTzVYIr5fU_ljQC5zqpKOUd11uA Pawlicki brothers' dad must be an idiot if he cannot find a team for such talented riders. If none wants to sign a contract with them it means he asks for too much - simple as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicar Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I totally agree :/ Such talented riders (both) and carrier destroyed by father.. not the first time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 It looks as if following a meeting yesterday in 2012 the extraleague will have 10 teams 1 GP rider per team 4 polish riders minimum points limit reduced from 44 to 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 It looks as if following a meeting yesterday in 2012 the extraleague will have 10 teams 1 GP rider per team 4 polish riders minimum points limit reduced from 44 to 41 Is the extraleague the top league in Poland or the second ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Best league of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 It looks as if following a meeting yesterday in 2012 the extraleague will have 10 teams 1 GP rider per team 4 polish riders minimum points limit reduced from 44 to 41 A GP rider limit totally sucks :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm with you on this one. First they put CMA limit down and then they limit number of GP riders. Isn't that punishing riders for being in GP? Besides, it is really CMA that determines how good you are in particular league and not whether you are in GP or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 A GP rider limit totally sucks :| They've told you why it's got to happen, it's the same in GB, unless you want to be paying equivalent to £15 to watch your meetings perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicar Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 1 GP rider sucks - why someone forbid to 5 riders from GP to start in Extraleague? CMA down to 41? Will be the same as in GB - squads weaker and weaker... Don't know why was such idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) I'm with you on this one. First they put CMA limit down and then they limit number of GP riders. Isn't that punishing riders for being in GP? Besides, it is really CMA that determines how good you are in particular league and not whether you are in GP or not. Couldn't agree more. They've told you why it's got to happen, it's the same in GB, unless you want to be paying equivalent to £15 to watch your meetings perhaps? Got a funny feeling the ticket prices won't go down. Same as in economics - any restriction introduced to restrain some process (increase of riders' pays in this case) always cause next problems. I can foresee that good non-GP riders will be wanting more money in 2012 as they simply will be more demanded... and all in all clubs will be spending similar amounts for their contracts. This is just stupid, same as CMA's. Edited February 3, 2011 by Mateusz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 1 good rule they have put in place though is the minimum amount of polish riders you have to have in the team. is it 3 or 4 ? but it still continues the growth of polish speedway riders at a high level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I can foresee that good non-GP riders will be wanting more money in 2012 as they simply will be more demanded... The promoters will have to stick to their guns, they are looking after the clubs surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 And Jarek has his say: taken from Lovespeedway.com: Hampel hits out at Polish authorities Thursday, February 3, 2011 3:36 PM FORMER Ipswich star and world No.2 Jaroslaw Hampel says Polish Ekstraliga clubs are making a big mistake in restricting teams to just one Grand Prix rider in 2012. FORMER Ipswich star and world No.2 Jaroslaw Hampel says Polish Ekstraliga clubs are making a big mistake in restricting teams to just one Grand Prix rider in 2012. There are plans to expand the top flight from eight to ten sides next term and it is reported that every club will have to track four Poles. Should the new rules come into force, champions Leszno would have to choose between Hampel and Janusz Kolodziej if both men retain their places in the World Championship for next year. With five SGP regulars guaranteed to miss out on Ekstraliga team berths, Hampel has hit out at the changes. He said: “It’s unfair to my club, which has a plan, a long-term vision of the team. This may be meaningless now.” Hampel added: “I do not know what this rule is intended to do. Is it to make savings at the club? It’s not the way to do it. These are the riders fans are passionate about. “I believe that last season’s league was pretty balanced and unpredictable. Even if the 2012 season will see ten teams in the Ekstraliga, it means that the five Speedway Grand Prix riders will not be able to compete in it.” speedwaygp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted February 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Totally agree with Hampel. This is not a good way to cut costs, as there will be less fans watching. Cut costs by not signing riders on ridiculos contracts. Dumbing down the league in GB has just led to average fixing and the fans turning their back on an inferior product, yet paying more to do so. Have budgets and stick to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 And Jarek has his say: taken from Lovespeedway.com: Hampel hits out at Polish authorities Thursday, February 3, 2011 3:36 PM FORMER Ipswich star and world No.2 Jaroslaw Hampel says Polish Ekstraliga clubs are making a big mistake in restricting teams to just one Grand Prix rider in 2012. FORMER Ipswich star and world No.2 Jaroslaw Hampel says Polish Ekstraliga clubs are making a big mistake in restricting teams to just one Grand Prix rider in 2012. There are plans to expand the top flight from eight to ten sides next term and it is reported that every club will have to track four Poles. Should the new rules come into force, champions Leszno would have to choose between Hampel and Janusz Kolodziej if both men retain their places in the World Championship for next year. With five SGP regulars guaranteed to miss out on Ekstraliga team berths, Hampel has hit out at the changes. He said: “It’s unfair to my club, which has a plan, a long-term vision of the team. This may be meaningless now.” Hampel added: “I do not know what this rule is intended to do. Is it to make savings at the club? It’s not the way to do it. These are the riders fans are passionate about. “I believe that last season’s league was pretty balanced and unpredictable. Even if the 2012 season will see ten teams in the Ekstraliga, it means that the five Speedway Grand Prix riders will not be able to compete in it.” speedwaygp.com Very interesting, I wonder how many or if any clubs are feeling pinch moneywise. Seems to be the way with the speedway world that when trying to save money they dumb down the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Polish clubs will never admit financial problems until someone (an unpaid rider?) reveals that to press. A lot of these clubs are financially unprepared to carry what they have. This is why authorities are trying to limit the problem and they think that cutting down on GP riders is the way. I seriously doubt they are right. We had that a few years ago and the problem existed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Cut costs by not signing riders on ridiculos contracts Isn't that what they are trying to do? Perhaps the GP boys will have to start asking BSI or the FIM for more finance to race in the GP series?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Unfortunately all 1st and 2nd league matches in Poland from 1st of May are postponed to 23rd of June (only match Rivne-Kraków will be held at 10th of April). Also 1st round match in 2nd league Krosno-Opole is postponed to 17th of April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Unfortunately all 1st and 2nd league matches in Poland from 1st of May are postponed to 23rd of June (only match Rivne-Kraków will be held at 10th of April). Also 1st round match in 2nd league Krosno-Opole is postponed to 17th of April. Hi Mama am i right in thinking that the extraleague haven`t decided yet about the May 1st fixtures ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 You are right although it is only a matter of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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