Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Well done Buxton, were over the whole course of the season the best team.... Hmm, could be. But of course they didn't in the end need to be the best team "over the course of the whole season" did they..?! After all, the best measure of that is a league table: one which actually shows Dudley first and the Hornets second and Buxton, but third... Today all that was needed was to win ONE match - and in fact one would probably have backed literally any side in the 2010 NL to have beaten the fatally weakened Newport line-up which took to track today, in a one-off tie with home advantage... Yes they'll be the argument that the "rules" were set before the season began. But the "rules" should also have insisted not just on a mid-September cut-off for the play off qualification but also an end of September deadline to complete the semis and dates in the first week of October for the Final. Because they didn't this has ended up the most unsatisfactory end to a season ever in the third tier and I fear we'll all end up paying for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I'm a speedway fan, the rules were set out for both finals before any 1st legs were run, so I'd have accepted it. It's a shame some can't Hmm, and it's a shame you can't apologise for your totally nonsensical slur against Newport claiming that, er, it didn't rain in South Wales on Friday and somehow by calling the first leg off the Hornets hoped to gain some, er, advantage... As it happens, I have it on good account that there was no rain at Newport on Friday, but they could only get 4 riders together so thought it was better coming today at 0-0 rather than being X amount of points down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Hmm, could be. But of course they didn't in the end need to be the best team "over the course of the whole season" did they..?! After all, the best measure of that is a league table: one which actually shows Dudley first and the Hornets second and Buxton, but third... Today all that was needed was to win ONE match - and in fact one would probably have backed literally any side in the 2010 NL to have beaten the fatally weakened Newport line-up which took to track today, in a one-off tie with home advantage... Yes they'll be the argument that the "rules" were set before the season began. But the "rules" should also have insisted not just on a mid-September cut-off for the play off qualification but also an end of September deadline to complete the semis and dates in the first week of October for the Final. Because they didn't this has ended up the most unsatisfactory end to a season ever in the third tier and I fear we'll all end up paying for that... Suggest you have another look at the league table. As for a weakend Newport team think you will find Buxton weren't at full strength either but at the end of the day any team can only beat what is put in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Jayne and all at and connected with Buxton on deserved success this year - end of story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertoak Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Buxton dont make the rules and from what ive seen they have been the most consistent and entertaining team for the season any way. They deserve all that comes their way. They took the chance on a relatively unknown aussie kid and other team members and its paid off them. 14+1 in your last meeting of the year Spodge well done mate and we will see you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B's Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I think he would of been on an airplane on his way back to Oz I believe Don`t think so Well Im sure I read it in the Speedway Star that he was heading back home so couldn't ride for the Hornets. I could be wrong, but Im sure thats what I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Are you on night shift or couldn't you sleep posting at some unearthly hour over there. Looks like the boy rode well today and stuck with Buxton to the end of the season. Well done to Buxton on the seasons successes. Some of us actually get up to follow the Updates! I usually catch the tail end of 'em. I trust you'll reciprocate and be up early for the Australian Solos Updates, etc? Just like to echo everyone's congratulations for Buxton and commiserations to the Mighty HORNETS. Edited November 1, 2010 by BigFatDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Hmm, could be. But of course they didn't in the end need to be the best team "over the course of the whole season" did they..?! After all, the best measure of that is a league table: one which actually shows Dudley first and the Hornets second and Buxton, but third... Today all that was needed was to win ONE match - and in fact one would probably have backed literally any side in the 2010 NL to have beaten the fatally weakened Newport line-up which took to track today, in a one-off tie with home advantage... Yes they'll be the argument that the "rules" were set before the season began. But the "rules" should also have insisted not just on a mid-September cut-off for the play off qualification but also an end of September deadline to complete the semis and dates in the first week of October for the Final. Because they didn't this has ended up the most unsatisfactory end to a season ever in the third tier and I fear we'll all end up paying for that... Parsloes your nothing but a sore loser, and all ive ever seen from you on here from you is whinging and whining. In our Australian Football league we have a trophy for the leader at the end of the home and away season, its called the MINOR premiers. But that all means f, all when the Grand final comes around and when the Collingwood supporters were singing, Good old Collingwood forever,nobody remenmbered who the minor premiers were they were an insignificant piece of history. Buxton spanked you in the Play off semi and for good measure also in the KOC, so if because Dudley finished above Buxton in the minor premiership on points difference you think you should be champs your in la la land, Buxton were the best team this year and they have the National League crown to prove it. Junior Edited November 1, 2010 by junior fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave69 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Well Im sure I read it in the Speedway Star that he was heading back home so couldn't ride for the Hornets. I could be wrong, but Im sure thats what I read. He was still here Sunday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S Bear Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I agrre that Newport were missing riders due to injuries and riders returning to Australia as did Buxton but for the Main Man to include Mark Jones in the list of missing riders does seem strange to certain people.The reason Mark Jones was missing was that his six month visa/permit ran out in early September. A question that either Mr Mallett or Mr Rogers have answered, letters sent to them in early September and I am still awaiting a reply, is did Mark have the current paperwork to ride any NL meetings in 2010 because as Tyson Nelson found out in July a 6 month vistors visa does not allow you to ride team speedway either as a professional or a amateur according to the immigration rules of GB as outlined on the UKBA web site and breaking these rules can result in heavy fines for the employer and deporatation for the illegal immigrant Is anyone from the Newport promotion prepare to come on this forum and state where on the UKBA web site it states that holders of a six month permit/visa can be employed as a sportsman or why or how Marks' paperwork was different from that held by Tyson Nelson otherwise maybe they should remeber the old saying about the best thing to do when you are in a hole is to stop digging By the way congratulations to all at Buton especially the promotion who did comply with the rules be they the rules set by the BSPA or the UKBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B's Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 He was still here Sunday morning. Having just read the piece again. Todd doesn't actually go home until Thursday (4th November). So unless he's had to send his bikes back home before he actually leaves, Im not sure why he didn't ride in the NLRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B's Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 He was still here Sunday morning. Having just read the piece again. Todd doesn't actually go home until Thursday (4th November). So unless he's had to send his bikes back home before he actually leaves, Im not sure why he didn't ride in the NLRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Parsloes your nothing but a sore loser Sore loser in what sense? I have no connection whatsoever or allegiance to Dudley or Newport..!! You'd best read again. The people who are so angry and upset at the farce that has been the end of this particular third tier season (probably as a result of this, the last as a meaningful division) are those of us who have actually devoted time and energy over the years to this particular form of Speedway. Of course the Moss family are way ahead of us in that respect and a massive well down to them and all others at Buxton for their achievement. BUT none of that hides the clear fact that over the Fours, the Play Offs and the Riders Championship this has been a massive cock-up... If you can't see that from your position over in Oz fair enuff, but trust me it has been; and to bury ones head in the sand and say, oh actually all is well is going to do no-one and least of all the sport any good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Having just read the piece again. Todd doesn't actually go home until Thursday (4th November). So unless he's had to send his bikes back home before he actually leaves, Im not sure why he didn't ride in the NLRC. Should a guest have been used to cover his absence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Our congratulations to Buxton on their clean sweep of trophies and although no one can predict it one wonders what the outcome would be with two legs and a full Hornets side with messers Kurtz, Jones, Webster and White-Williams? The team that lost 44-46 the first time half of the Buxton team had seen Newports track? If we're "making up" teams, give Buxton Nick Morris and Charles Wright... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave69 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I agrre that Newport were missing riders due to injuries and riders returning to Australia as did Buxton but for the Main Man to include Mark Jones in the list of missing riders does seem strange to certain people.The reason Mark Jones was missing was that his six month visa/permit ran out in early September. A question that either Mr Mallett or Mr Rogers have answered, letters sent to them in early September and I am still awaiting a reply, is did Mark have the current paperwork to ride any NL meetings in 2010 because as Tyson Nelson found out in July a 6 month vistors visa does not allow you to ride team speedway either as a professional or a amateur according to the immigration rules of GB as outlined on the UKBA web site and breaking these rules can result in heavy fines for the employer and deporatation for the illegal immigrant Is anyone from the Newport promotion prepare to come on this forum and state where on the UKBA web site it states that holders of a six month permit/visa can be employed as a sportsman or why or how Marks' paperwork was different from that held by Tyson Nelson otherwise maybe they should remeber the old saying about the best thing to do when you are in a hole is to stop digging By the way congratulations to all at Buton especially the promotion who did comply with the rules be they the rules set by the BSPA or the UKBA I always thought that,I expect Main Man will be along to explain where our thinking is flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Why did Todd not ride in the NLRC last night? Bikes all packed up as well as his suitcase ready for trip back to Oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave69 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Bikes all packed up as well as his suitcase ready for trip back to Oz Thanks for that,can you explain the Mark Jones conspiracy theory,too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Bikes all packed up as well as his suitcase ready for trip back to Oz Why were you allowed a guest facility? Surely by being packed up he was refusing to ride... Robert Brandford rode - and he's back off to Oz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B's Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 (edited) Should a guest have been used to cover his absence? I was under the idea that in the NL you can only use a guest for your No1? Edit: Which was Darren Mallett Friday Night (Would of been ) & Steve?? Worrall up at Buxton. Edited November 1, 2010 by Triple B's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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