Newport V Buxton - Nl Playoff 29/10

[Main Man]

Just to make one point with regard cut off dates and fixtures is that we at Newport actually did finish all our league fixtures before this date!

[cityrebel]

now that newport have lights could this meeting have been run earlier in the week.

[chris1]

No restaging of first leg - one-off final on Sunday

 

Source - Buxton twitterfeed

 

If that is the case then the wholeNL season has been an utter waste of space and a complete farce. I have supported the Hornets all sesaon, going to both Hornets and Wasps meetings which can work out expensive with two meetings on a weekend.

I don't begrudge Buxton winning if it is done in a fair way but to day that winner takes all on a home leg advantage is crazy.

If there is any N; next year, here is one person who won't be paying hard earned money to see it.

[lucifer sam]

Just to make one point with regard cut off dates and fixtures is that we at Newport actually did finish all our league fixtures before this date!

 

Main Man, but come you took so long to get on with your play-off matches? And why didn't you restage the meeting in the afternoon today??

 

All the best

Rob

[Conkers]

Dudley have finished top of the league on pts difference only,

in fact Buxton have won more meetings than them. er you forgot to mention you LOST 3 more than them also

 

 

NATIONAL LEAGUE

M W D L F A PTS

1 Dudley 18 13 0 5 938 724 45

2 Buxton 18 14 0 4 899 722 45

3 Newport 18 13 0 5 878 742 45

4 Rye House 18 10 0 8 801 821 31

5 Bournemouth 18 10 1 7 837 803 30

6 Plymouth 18 9 0 9 844 819 27

7 Isle of Wight 18 6 0 12 779 867 18

8 Scunthorpe 18 5 1 12 743 893 15

9 King's Lynn 18 5 0 13 758 873 14

10 Weymouth 18 4 0 14 719 932 13

 

Beg to differ - In the NL, Buxton lost 4 meetings to Dudley's 5, although Dudley were the only team to take a point home from Derbyshire in the NL

 

In addition, Buxton only lost away to IOW and Plymouth in the Trophy (Dudley didn't compete), whilst Dudley beat them in the 2nd leg of the KO Cup Semi Final, and Kings Lynn won the 2nd Leg of the Final.

[shad176]

http://www.speedwaygb.com/nltable10.html sorry mr conkers... just going on this..away dudley lost 1 buxton l 4 thats as lost ..0pts, dudley went pointless all season at only 1 track..newport ps looooove the sig its a real shame the way things have gone the last few weeks regarding the playoffs for the fans of all the clubs involved and the riders who have put in the effort to get there only for it to turn into a complete mess, also the 4tt down the pan and the nlrc meeting on/off saga, hopefully this wont happen next season Edited October 30, 2010 by wembley81

[Jayne]

http://www.speedwaygb.com/nltable10.html sorry mr conkers... just going on this..away dudley lost 1 buxton l 4 thats as lost ..0pts, dudley went pointless all season at only 1 track..newport ps looooove the sig

 

 

Have another look you have to add both L columns together: Dudley 4+1 =5 Buxton 0+4 = 4

[Main Man]

Main Man, but come you took so long to get on with your play-off matches? And why didn't you restage the meeting in the afternoon today??

 

All the best

Rob

 

 

Rob. We had to wait to see if it was Bournemouth or Plymouth first then had to wait to agree dates with them. That done we then had to await the Dudley v Buxton semi and even then when we were both through the KO Cup Final had already been arranged. As it was the weather also took hold of the situation.

As for running today we would have loved to but with the NLRC taking precendence couldn't. As I have said believe me we wanted a home leg not just an away one. Perhaps the National Trophy, if it runs in 2011, should be raced after the League has been settled and sorted ? Surely the league is the most important and paramount competition ?

Edited October 30, 2010 by Main Man

[shad176]

Have another look you have to add both L columns together: Dudley 4+1 =5 Buxton 0+4 = 4

thats why i said sorry to mr conkers..my mistake,,sorry to you too you still had 4 0pt losses tho

[lucifer sam]

Rob. We had to wait to see if it was Bournemouth or Plymouth first then had to wait to agree dates with them. That done we then had to await the Dudley v Buxton semi and even then when we were both through the KO Cup Final had already been arranged. As it was the weather also took hold of the situation.

As for running today we would have loved to but with the NLRC taking precendence couldn't. As I have said believe me we wanted a home leg not just an away one. Perhaps the National Trophy, if it runs in 2011, should be raced after the League has been settled and sorted ? Surely the league is the most important and paramount competition ?

 

Main Man, thanks for replying. Something certainly needs to be done for 2011 (if the play-offs continue. I really don't see the need for them in the National League).

 

My suggestion would be each club setting aside reserved dates throughout September and the first half of October. E.g. this year, the deadline for the play-offs was Sept 12, so each club should have reserved dates during Sept 16-22 for the first leg of the semis, and Sept 23-29 for the second leg. For the final, each club, should have reserved dates of Sept 30-Oct 6 & Oct 7-13 for the two legs, depending on which they end up staging. Clubs can only put other meetings on in these weeks, once they are out of the play-offs, or was its known that their home leg is not being staged that week.

 

The aim has to be finish the play-offs by mid-October. The second half of October should be for emergencies only.

 

All the best

Rob

[ancient mariner]

Main Man, thanks for replying. Something certainly needs to be done for 2011 (if the play-offs continue. I really don't see the need for them in the National League).

 

My suggestion would be each club setting aside reserved dates throughout September and the first half of October. E.g. this year, the deadline for the play-offs was Sept 12, so each club should have reserved dates during Sept 16-22 for the first leg of the semis, and Sept 23-29 for the second leg. For the final, each club, should have reserved dates of Sept 30-Oct 6 & Oct 7-13 for the two legs, depending on which they end up staging. Clubs can only put other meetings on in these weeks, once they are out of the play-offs, or was its known that their home leg is not being staged that week.

 

The aim has to be finish the play-offs by mid-October. The second half of October should be for emergencies only.

 

All the best

Rob

 

And this is what I believe is called 'using common sense' which would therefore be highly unsuitable for anything connected with the running of the NL

Edited October 31, 2010 by ancient mariner

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

As for running today we would have loved to but with the NLRC taking precendence couldn't. As I have said believe me we wanted a home leg not just an away one. Perhaps the National Trophy, if it runs in 2011, should be raced after the League has been settled and sorted ? Surely the league is the most important and paramount competition ?

 

Interesting. So the disgraceful decision to cancel the NLRC previously not only meant the Fours never happened but also make a mockery of the Play Off Final...

As I've said before, Rye House must NEVER be allowed to stage a third tier 'shared event' again... That's assuming there are such things in the future...

[scribbler]

Main Man, thanks for replying. Something certainly needs to be done for 2011 (if the play-offs continue. I really don't see the need for them in the National League).

 

My suggestion would be each club setting aside reserved dates throughout September and the first half of October. E.g. this year, the deadline for the play-offs was Sept 12, so each club should have reserved dates during Sept 16-22 for the first leg of the semis, and Sept 23-29 for the second leg. For the final, each club, should have reserved dates of Sept 30-Oct 6 & Oct 7-13 for the two legs, depending on which they end up staging. Clubs can only put other meetings on in these weeks, once they are out of the play-offs, or was its known that their home leg is not being staged that week.

 

The aim has to be finish the play-offs by mid-October. The second half of October should be for emergencies only.

 

All the best

Rob

 

I thought that all clubs did that...I'm surprised if they don't.

 

Scunthorpe fixture list always includes gaps in it's fixture list reserved for any successes in any competition and it's on there from March onwards. They're website is always up-to-date and informative for supporters and visitors alike. They're running two teams but still manage to work things out - and have double headers to make running two teams more viable.

[chris1]

One thing if the rumours are correct, that have come from several different sources at Newport, is that the Hornets won't find themselves caught up in this mess next year. It is unlikely there will be a Hornets team.

[scribbler]

One thing if the rumours are correct, that have come from several different sources at Newport, is that the Hornets won't find themselves caught up in this mess next year. It is unlikely there will be a Hornets team.

 

This is so disheartening...Promotions using this sort of thing to hold the NDL and the BSPA to ransom.

 

Newport have proved that having a second team can work to their advantage to enable them to find their own talent for their PL team but as soon as a few (sensible) rules are in place that they don't want to abide by they threaten to leave!

I hope that today's(?) meeting of NDL promoters has a good outcome and these 'mind games' are stopped.

 

It's so disheartening to read these sorts of comments/rumours from Newport... and is, perhaps, one of the reasons that this level of Speedway is poorly supported. If supporters are left worrying at the end of every season whether there will be a team to support why bother? If the promoters aren't supporting it positively why should supporters?

[firesam]

This is so disheartening...Promotions using this sort of thing to hold the NDL and the BSPA to ransom.

 

Newport have proved that having a second team can work to their advantage to enable them to find their own talent for their PL team but as soon as a few (sensible) rules are in place that they don't want to abide by they threaten to leave!

I hope that today's(?) meeting of NDL promoters has a good outcome and these 'mind games' are stopped.

 

It's so disheartening to read these sorts of comments/rumours from Newport... and is, perhaps, one of the reasons that this level of Speedway is poorly supported. If supporters are left worrying at the end of every season whether there will be a team to support why bother? If the promoters aren't supporting it positively why should supporters?

 

 

Nothing to do with holding anyone to ransom, just financial.

Edited November 1, 2010 by firesam

[steve gresham]

Have to agree with Firesam, the crowds have been very poor for the Hornets meetings. This was a shame as the side has been been so successful and the racing exciting. Yes loosing the Hornets would be a financial decision, nothing else.

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

This is so disheartening...Promotions using this sort of thing to hold the NDL and the BSPA to ransom.

 

Newport have proved that having a second team can work to their advantage to enable them to find their own talent for their PL team but as soon as a few (sensible) rules are in place that they don't want to abide by they threaten to leave!

 

 

1) how is this holding anyone "to ransom";

 

2) what on earth are these "few (sensible) rules [that] are in place that they don't want to abide by..."..

 

I'm sure all of us whould like to know - coz frankly you've totally lost me here!!!!

[cityrebel]

with the possibility of fewer teams running in the NL next season fixture congestion wont be a problem.

Edited November 2, 2010 by cityrebel

[Parsloes 1928 nearly]

1) how is this holding anyone "to ransom";

 

2) what on earth are these "few (sensible) rules [that] are in place that they don't want to abide by..."..

 

I'm sure all of us whould like to know - coz frankly you've totally lost me here!!!!

 

Hmm, seems even scribbler doesn't understand her previous posting...!!!