King's Lynn 2011

[Daniel Smith]

Maybe they will line-up together as No 1 & 2 ....who knows. I have no idea about all this signing lark. he cant sign for lynn until he has done 12 meets, but can sign for P'Boro with out riding one race.

 

Rubbish in it how the EL can do that.

 

I'm just intrigued now if we're changing race night's or Bjerre isn't going to ride in Denmark.

 

Just remembering back to when we were in the EL and had Nicki Pedersen. I can't remember him missing a meeting apart from injury and we rode Wednesday night's then as well didn't we?????

[Tsunami]

Maybe they will line-up together as No 1 & 2 ....who knows. I have no idea about all this signing lark. he cant sign for lynn until he has done 12 meets, but can sign for P'Boro with out riding one race.

 

Yes, and there is the rub. Too many EL teams 'sign' young riders, farm them out to friendly promotions and then recall them when they have improved. All against the rules but the PL can't be seen to be doing it.

I include Dak, Taylor Poole in this as well.

[Tsunami]

Rubbish in it how the EL can do that.

 

I'm just intrigued now if we're changing race night's or Bjerre isn't going to ride in Denmark.

 

Just remembering back to when we were in the EL and had Nicki Pedersen. I can't remember him missing a meeting apart from injury and we rode Wednesday night's then as well didn't we?????

 

Bjarne is probably a better example.

[interstellar_stars]

He rode less than 12 meetings

 

Here's another one of speedways wonderful grey area's. Think you'll find Bjerre completed more that 12 meetings for Lynn, just not in the actual PL itself.

 

Still, they seem to own half the PL riders atm, so another one won't make much difference.

[crikeythatsfast]

Here's another one of speedways wonderful grey area's. Think you'll find Bjerre completed more that 12 meetings for Lynn, just not in the actual PL itself.

 

Still, they seem to own half the PL riders atm, so another one won't make much difference.

 

Ain't that the truth

[ajh]

Have to say that the promotion have dropped one here. When they said he was signing on for 2011, they should of had his name on a contract and as an asset. I also wish I could say I was surprised about Bjerre heading to Peterborough but I'm not

 

For the good of the team I hope we look elsewhere. I don't see King's Lynn as being a feeder club for anyone, especially not Peterborough

 

Bjerre is a cracking rider but now obviously isn't going to be the future of our club. If he was our asset, I'd happily bring him on then sell him to an EL team as we did with Darcy. That's how PL clubs have to survive, unearth a gem and cash in on him later.

 

There's no guarantee that with Bjerre in the side it will bring success. He's a hell of a talent but did only average 5.80 in his 11 PL meetings. If he was our asset, you'd take the risk for the long term gain. As he's not, thanks very much, now don't let the door hit you on your arse on the way out

[slidingpostie]

With Rob being team GB boss and if we were to look for an out and out number 1 then how about Lewis Bridger, looked good in the British semi-final back in May and would come in on 9.94 which if Rob can get him focused, World cup semi being held at Lynn again next year as rumoured, he could be a trump card for both the Stars and team GB next season

[crikeythatsfast]

Have to say that the promotion have dropped one here. When they said he was signing on for 2011, they should of had his name on a contract and as an asset. I also wish I could say I was surprised about Bjerre heading to Peterborough but I'm not

 

For the good of the team I hope we look elsewhere. I don't see King's Lynn as being a feeder club for anyone, especially not Peterborough

 

Bjerre is a cracking rider but now obviously isn't going to be the future of our club. If he was our asset, I'd happily bring him on then sell him to an EL team as we did with Darcy. That's how PL clubs have to survive, unearth a gem and cash in on him later.

 

There's no guarantee that with Bjerre in the side it will bring success. He's a hell of a talent but did only average 5.80 in his 11 PL meetings. If he was our asset, you'd take the risk for the long term gain. As he's not, thanks very much, now don't let the door hit you on your arse on the way out

 

Phew whiffy lol

 

Seriosuly I agree with your sentiments

[castrolargh]

Have to say that the promotion have dropped one here. When they said he was signing on for 2011, they should of had his name on a contract and as an asset. I also wish I could say I was surprised about Bjerre heading to Peterborough but I'm not

 

For the good of the team I hope we look elsewhere. I don't see King's Lynn as being a feeder club for anyone, especially not Peterborough

 

Bjerre is a cracking rider but now obviously isn't going to be the future of our club. If he was our asset, I'd happily bring him on then sell him to an EL team as we did with Darcy. That's how PL clubs have to survive, unearth a gem and cash in on him later.

 

There's no guarantee that with Bjerre in the side it will bring success. He's a hell of a talent but did only average 5.80 in his 11 PL meetings. If he was our asset, you'd take the risk for the long term gain. As he's not, thanks very much, now don't let the door hit you on your arse on the way out

And herein lies the biggest problem with being in the premier league, a talent is discovered and brought on but as soon as a certain level is reached they are off to the elite league never to be seen again.Ok there are a few exceptions, such as our own tom, but there is so little continuity, any decenty prospects are off,or pinched from under our noses!!Just out of interest, can anyone answer this: Why does a rider have to ride 12 "Official "meetings to become an asset, but another club can just come along and offer a contract to sign?

[crikeythatsfast]

Have to say that the promotion have dropped one here. When they said he was signing on for 2011, they should of had his name on a contract and as an asset. I also wish I could say I was surprised about Bjerre heading to Peterborough but I'm not

 

For the good of the team I hope we look elsewhere. I don't see King's Lynn as being a feeder club for anyone, especially not Peterborough

 

Bjerre is a cracking rider but now obviously isn't going to be the future of our club. If he was our asset, I'd happily bring him on then sell him to an EL team as we did with Darcy. That's how PL clubs have to survive, unearth a gem and cash in on him later.

 

There's no guarantee that with Bjerre in the side it will bring success. He's a hell of a talent but did only average 5.80 in his 11 PL meetings. If he was our asset, you'd take the risk for the long term gain. As he's not, thanks very much, now don't let the door hit you on your arse on the way out

 

And herein lies the biggest problem with being in the premier league, a talent is discovered and brought on but as soon as a certain level is reached they are off to the elite league never to be seen again.Ok there are a few exceptions, such as our own tom, but there is so little continuity, any decenty prospects are off,or pinched from under our noses!!Just out of interest, can anyone answer this: Why does a rider have to ride 12 "Official "meetings to become an asset, but another club can just come along and offer a contract to sign?

 

It's something that has never been answered, or maybe the BSPA have never been questioned, but it's all very wrong

[semion]

Riders come and go all the time. Why cant we just enjoy them while they are there ? The thing works both ways. Riders decide to move on, Promotions move riders on. Look at this season, where wholesale was changes were made mid season. Mills and Wortmann, Haines all sacked, for what reason ?

[Tsunami]

It's something that has never been answered, or maybe the BSPA have never been questioned, but it's all very wrong

 

In the early 90's a certain Southern team brought across a host of Finnish riders to have a look at them. Their idea was to sign up all the decent ones and loan them out. This was banned by BSPA who reiterated that a rider could only be signed to ride for that team. As a result of that Newcastle signed one of them, Petri Kokko. In recent years, EL teams have started to sign anything decent, place them with PL outfits loan free, and then recall them when they are good enough. If challenged the line would be 'he is a PL rider' who would then sign for nothing or a small fee to be transferred to the EL. It is all wrong and is condoned by the EL promotions in league with the supporting PL team. It is even more blatant now when EL teams openly announce they have signed A N Other and loan him without any intention of putting the rider in their team. As well as being against the rules, it severely hampers PL teams like Newcastle who have signed and nurtured good Danish riders and transferred then to an EL team and kept Newcastle Speedway afloat for a little while.

 

The ones with the money and the power will use it.

[ajh]

In the early 90's a certain Southern team brought across a host of Finnish riders to have a look at them. Their idea was to sign up all the decent ones and loan them out. This was banned by BSPA who reiterated that a rider could only be signed to ride for that team. As a result of that Newcastle signed one of them, Petri Kokko. In recent years, EL teams have started to sign anything decent, place them with PL outfits loan free, and then recall them when they are good enough. If challenged the line would be 'he is a PL rider' who would then sign for nothing or a small fee to be transferred to the EL. It is all wrong and is condoned by the EL promotions in league with the supporting PL team. It is even more blatant now when EL teams openly announce they have signed A N Other and loan him without any intention of putting the rider in their team. As well as being against the rules, it severely hampers PL teams like Newcastle who have signed and nurtured good Danish riders and transferred then to an EL team and kept Newcastle Speedway afloat for a little while.

 

The ones with the money and the power will use it.

 

Heartily agree with that. It's not just because of the Bjerre situation. It's been going on for years. The likes of Swindon, Peterborough and Poole have been amongst the worst culprits in recent seasons. You shouldn't be able to sign a rider as an asset unless you are using him in your team. It's not a level playing field otherwise.

 

Think this was also the case with NL teams not being able to have riders as assets. They get some kind of development fee or something. They could develop the next best thing and lose him to another club for next to nothing

 

I'd much rather we develop our own assets than be a feeder club for EL teams, even if it didn't mean silverware

[crikeythatsfast]

In the early 90's a certain Southern team brought across a host of Finnish riders to have a look at them. Their idea was to sign up all the decent ones and loan them out. This was banned by BSPA who reiterated that a rider could only be signed to ride for that team. As a result of that Newcastle signed one of them, Petri Kokko. In recent years, EL teams have started to sign anything decent, place them with PL outfits loan free, and then recall them when they are good enough. If challenged the line would be 'he is a PL rider' who would then sign for nothing or a small fee to be transferred to the EL. It is all wrong and is condoned by the EL promotions in league with the supporting PL team. It is even more blatant now when EL teams openly announce they have signed A N Other and loan him without any intention of putting the rider in their team. As well as being against the rules, it severely hampers PL teams like Newcastle who have signed and nurtured good Danish riders and transferred then to an EL team and kept Newcastle Speedway afloat for a little while.

 

The ones with the money and the power will use it.

 

 

Thanks so much for the explanation. It is maddening though, the amount of teams that bring younsters into the PL only for them to be whipped away from that team by an EL team and not ride for that EL team, then loaned out to a PL team is wrong. It's happening more and more and really needs to be stopped and never allowed to happen again.

[Tsunami]

Heartily agree with that. It's not just because of the Bjerre situation. It's been going on for years. The likes of Swindon, Peterborough and Poole have been amongst the worst culprits in recent seasons. You shouldn't be able to sign a rider as an asset unless you are using him in your team. It's not a level playing field otherwise.

 

Think this was also the case with NL teams not being able to have riders as assets. They get some kind of development fee or something. They could develop the next best thing and lose him to another club for next to nothing

 

I'd much rather we develop our own assets than be a feeder club for EL teams, even if it didn't mean silverware

 

About £250.

[castrolargh]

Seeing as lasse bjerre will now only be loaned back to kings lynn, would it perhaps be worth considering a new 5 point aussie in his place who would become an asset and use the extra 2 points elsewhere?NO offence intended but it could mean the difference between millsy or schrammy in the team (purely as an example).

[castrolargh]

Seeing as things have changed a little this last few days, how about this one:

Travis Mcgowan 9.09

linus Eklof 5.30

Emiliano sanchez 6.64

Chris schramm 6.37

Tom topinka 7.64

Adam Roynon 3.95

simon lambert 3.56

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42.45 Before 2.5% reductions OR

swap lambo for

Darren mallet 3.90

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42.79 Before 2.5% reductions

Eklof, Schramm,Tom ,Roynon and Lambert/Mallet all capable of increasing their averages.

[Daniel Smith]

Seeing as lasse bjerre will now only be loaned back to kings lynn, would it perhaps be worth considering a new 5 point aussie in his place who would become an asset and use the extra 2 points elsewhere?NO offence intended but it could mean the difference between millsy or schrammy in the team (purely as an example).

 

Problem is, if we get a new Aussie in and he shows any promise, an EL team will shove a contract in front of his face, offer him the World & that would be another one lost.

 

It's just going to go on & on & on until PL clubs put their foot down on this.

[castrolargh]

Problem is, if we get a new Aussie in and he shows any promise, an EL team will shove a contract in front of his face, offer him the World & that would be another one lost.

 

It's just going to go on & on & on until PL clubs put their foot down on this.

I know what you mean, but they didnt manage it with darcy! At least the club got a tidy sum for his contract after a year in the team

[semion]

We had a new Aussie at the start of season 2010. They dont always work out. Its a fact of Speedway life, Riders move about, through varying reasons. Think back to when we had Nermark ( moved on) Batch (sold) Doolan ( tried his hand at Elite and then couldnt be fitted in at Lynn)Ward (sold) yet there is always the next name along on the conveyor belt. It gives me great pleasure to see riders develop and move on to bigger and better things. I really dont care who they belong to. After all as self-employed individuals who are in effect are out of contract at the end of each season. Plus ride for X number of other clubs in different country's, do they really belong to anyone ?

Edited November 9, 2010 by semion