jules m Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Sad as it is to say Even if you could buy Weymouth speedway for a £1 with No debt you would have to be very brave man Weymouth Speedway crowds are less than 200 now and that is 250 less than break even You would also have to pay 6 months of rent with no income which is roughly £15,000 So if you also have to take the debts of Weymouth Speedway on god knows how much that is There are still businesses and people owed from 2009 The outlook is not looking good lets hope for Weymouth speedway sake some new owners come in and deal is done without them having to pay for the mistakes of the past 3 years Where does this leave the Shareholders? Are they liable for any debts incured or will they simply move with the club if a new owner is found? All very worrying for Wildcats fans, fingers crossed that someone can come in and make a go of the club. It seems a long time ago since Weymouth lifted that League Trophy what a mess. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 if you would like to buy the club for £1 then the details are there too Full details on the Wildcats website Mod Note: Sections are there for a reason and if Parsloes doesn't get away with duplicate topics it would be rather hypocritical to let you away with it, especially when you try a backhanded sly way of getting round the rules and brag about it in your post. Hmm, leave me out of it...: I wouldn't even pay 50 pence for it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 if you would like to buy the club for £1 then the details are there too Full details on the Wildcats website Mod Note: Sections are there for a reason and if Parsloes doesn't get away with duplicate topics it would be rather hypocritical to let you away with it, especially when you try a backhanded sly way of getting round the rules and brag about it in your post. Obviously someone who has an issue with Weymouth Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Obviously someone who has an issue with Weymouth Speedway That could be quite a few people then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 That could be quite a few people then with the apathy on here maybe it will make a great deal of people happy that there will be no more speedway at Weymouth after tomorrow night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jules m Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 with the apathy on here maybe it will make a great deal of people happy that there will be no more speedway at Weymouth after tomorrow night Well I have never heard such a load of rubbish in my life! Even those of us that do not think Mr Bartlett is/was taking the club in the right direction would NEVER want there to be no speedway in Weymouth. If you can name one person that thinks this then I will willingly buy you a pie or pint whichever you prefer. There are lots of people that do not go to Weymouth Speedway because of how they feel about the current promotion, but these people would not want to see it disappear forever and all have valid reasons for not attending. Why would the moderator have an issue with Weymouth speedway? He/she is just doing their job! Jules (sits back and awaits the inevitable flack/abuse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stressed Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Well I have never heard such a load of rubbish in my life! Even those of us that do not think Mr Bartlett is/was taking the club in the right direction would NEVER want there to be no speedway in Weymouth. If you can name one person that thinks this then I will willingly buy you a pie or pint whichever you prefer. There are lots of people that do not go to Weymouth Speedway because of how they feel about the current promotion, but these people would not want to see it disappear forever and all have valid reasons for not attending. Why would the moderator have an issue with Weymouth speedway? He/she is just doing their job! Jules (sits back and awaits the inevitable flack/abuse) No flack or abuse Jules, simply that if supporters want speedway to continue then they need to show any prospective purchaser that there are supporters out there willing to attend, by staying away it damages these prospects. I know some people who won't attend or are unable to attend while Phil is promoter but there are a great many more who could easily attend for the final meeting to show that Weymouth Speedway could be a viable proposition in 2011. If you have viewed the Echo website there are a number of people who twist and slag off anything to do with Weymouth Speedway, these posts have generally been removed by the Echo and again this is something that does the club no favors. If people have a gripe with the promoter they should take it up with the promoter instead of trying to be faceless and hard hiding behind a keyboard damaging the club in the media. Crowds are generally down around the sport, you try and get a bit of publicity and it makes you wonder why you bother with all the hassle that gets put in your way at times, it's a thankless task. After working for both Brian and Phil as promoters over the years both have their good points and bad points, if you accept all these you can get along and do a job for the club which is what I and many others have been doing this year and for many years to try and keep speedway 'alive' in Weymouth. We don't do it for the good of our pocket, in fact it costs some of us a great deal of time and money to do the various jobs that we do because we love the sport and the 'club' no matter who the promoter is. Whoever comes in, if anyone does has a big hill to climb, that is a fact as every move they make will be scrutinised on the forums in great depth, again it will be another thankless task and I wish whoever it is as much luck and success as possible and also hope that the supporters come back and support the 'club'. Thanks for the offer of the pint but I don't drink and I hate pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth alicat Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) with the apathy on here maybe it will make a great deal of people happy that there will be no more speedway at Weymouth after tomorrow night tim i think that is a very harsh statement.........and indeed one that also might have a detrimental effect on any possible takeover. Unfortunatly i dont get down to Weymouth that often now , but i can remember the absolute jubilation that followed the planning consent not that long ago,and the amount of support it generated not only from the local area, but indeed nationwide. Why has that support dwindled ? the current finacial climate may be to blame but also sadly an average team (the league position proving that point),complaints about track conditions, lack of facilities,eg bar and toilets.. has not helped. Ime not sure who you refer to when you mention "a great deal of people" but ime certain the vast amount of people who supported the club through the gate when it re-opened post Brian White..would do so again under the right circumstances. What would be sad is to see all the work put in by Jem Dicken, Rob Spicer, John Hawkins, Ray Collins, Julie Martin, Nick White...and also Phil, along with countless volunteers become a fruitless exercise only a few short years later. Edited October 21, 2010 by weymouth alicat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Devoto Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 It really does seem the time for Weymouth fans to show they will support the Club in the future by making positive comments and going along tomorrow. All this negative stuff can only harm the chances of a potential buyer. I hope even those who have an issue with Phil Bartlett go along tomorrow and show there is a Club worth saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Here, Here. I hope all those who consider themselves "banned" or "un-welcome" also turn up to show any new buyer the support is there. I'll be there with my little boy, who loves his speedway and hope to see some old faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOSS Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I only hope Phil will post to say all are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I only hope Phil will post to say all are welcome. Well indeed, coz one assumes that people "banned" won't feel able to show up without this.. How sad (and I've seen it so much since my active involvement in the sport began in 2002) that people fall out and things like bans and threats are issued . I've never known any enterprise quite like Speedway for this. :cry: One day when the sport's dead and buried, the historians shall look back and conclude it was the failure of those who did care about the sport to get on with each other for long enough and to pull in one positive direction which led to its demise.. Good luck to all at Weymouth. Maybe it's time now to ask the rhetorical question once posed by Nick Lowe: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love & Understanding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old JAP Lover Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 "I only hope Phil will post to say all are welcome". There are going to be several pink pigs flying over "The Wessex" tomorrow me thinks Even if he took a full page ad in the National Press apologising for his "banning" petty crap and poor promotion I doubt very much whether he will see too many additional paying punters through the gates. People have long memories. I sincerely hope that my beloved Weymouth is taken over and rises like a phoenix - the crowds of early days Wizards/Wildcats would be great to see once again Sincere thanks to all those who lost money and/or were banned and those who tried to keep things going over the last few years - you did your thankless best Thanks. Old JAP Lover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eguin Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 ....if all else fails there's always ebay, to try sell Weymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 I only hope Phil will post to say all are welcome. Indeed And all those who have been banned or have stayed away to go along. This is not about Phil Bartlett any more, its about Weymouth Speedway and the possibility of its continued existence. Its a terrific little set up down there and fingers crossed that somrthing comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Indeed And all those who have been banned or have stayed away to go along. This is not about Phil Bartlett any more, its about Weymouth Speedway and the possibility of its continued existence. Its a terrific little set up down there and fingers crossed that somrthing comes up. Why have people been "banned" ? Seems a strange set up, banning people who want to spend money with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the knee Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 If the current set up at weymouth was to go bankrupt or just close would it not be possible for someone just to reopen it as a new set up as they would have none of the debt as there not anything to do with the past ! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 If the current set up at weymouth was to go bankrupt or just close would it not be possible for someone just to reopen it as a new set up as they would have none of the debt as there not anything to do with the past ! ? Interesting point that. Could the BSPA not just take back the license, as they did with Ray Mascall at Mildenhall ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules m Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Interesting point that. Could the BSPA not just take back the license, as they did with Ray Mascall at Mildenhall ? I think there is more ins and outs to this situation than a weekend in the life of Mr Rooney. I am led to believe, allegedly the rent contract is in Mr Bartlett's name and not Weymouth Speedway (although I am also led to believe that Weymouth Speedway does not even exist :-/)so what bearing this has on the future of the club I do not know in respect of bankruptcy. If someone does come in and take over I am pretty certain that some of the people who were previously involved helping to promote the club would love to help out again if asked, and the crowd figures would be somewhere near what they need to be to make the club viable in no time. In my opinion I have seen very little in the way of promoting the club in Weymouth this season, I will no doubt get accused of sour grapes but I actually find it very sad. A couple of years ago we used to go to school fetes and hand out hundreds of kids go free tickets to local schools. We went to the local supermarkets with a bike and rider handing out tickets, posters were put up around the town, we handed out tickets in the town centre and many other things beside. I haven't seen the club being promoted this season and I live in Weymouth. Promotion efforts this season, apart from the Southern Classic Bikes people handing out tickets twice this year (which has always been very much appreciated and is quite a spectacle :-)) have been few and far between. I think that this is just as, if not more so, the reason that crowd figures are down and why the club now finds itself in the current situation. It hasn't always been like this and I am sure in the right hands it could be great again providing people are prepared to do the hard graft to get it there. Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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