BWitcher Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Going at that speed? If a rider just kept it on and collected riders in front of them making a mistake it would be carnage. Then Harris shouldn't be entering the corner at such speed should he? It doesn't matter how you twist it around, it was the fault of Harris. You're still conveniently forgetting that Harris was already down before Schlein even made his mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Then Harris shouldn't be entering the corner at such speed should he? It doesn't matter how you twist it around, it was the fault of Harris. You're still conveniently forgetting that Harris was already down before Schlein even made his mistake. Why would he not go in the corner at speed?. Given the level they are racing at the riders trust each other not to make a mistake. But some times riders will get out of shape and the rider behind will need to take evasive action. The first mistake in that bend was by Schlien. Harris made a comparable mistake in the next race and kept the bike up because he could keep the throttle open. Had he done that when behind Schlien he would have collected him and took them both out. It is a grey area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Neither match was any kind of spectacle over any of the 4 legs. But having said that fair play to Coventry for grasping the nettle of the EOESG! Wolves were awful home and away and Peterborough deserved all they got last night. That track was a disgrace and it was fortunate nobody ended up badly hurt. I feel sorry for the 'Boro fans if that was their team during their most important meeting of the season. #1 was a joke and good luck getting rid of him for 2011. Schlein was unlucky as the ref was wrong on that one. But it would not have made a happorth of difference as 'Boro gave up in heat #1. Speedway never seems to grasp the concept of the Big Picture and always seems like a Mickey Mouse operation run by used car dealers. It's NOT what Speedway can do for you. It's what YOU can do for speedway. The Play Offs should be a showcase for the sport NOT a showcase for the dullards that run it. Once again another p#ss poor play off. Bet the final is even duller. Prepare tracks for racing that blows the watcher away you morons not just tracks that blow! Good luck Coventry as you will need it against Poole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 agreed - unfortunately that what some of the natives are like from those parts... Unacceptable behaviour! Talkin of unacceptable behaviour. What was the pit gate guy up to after the Schlein/Harris incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Why would he not go in the corner at speed?. Given the level they are racing at the riders trust each other not to make a mistake. But some times riders will get out of shape and the rider behind will need to take evasive action. The first mistake in that bend was by Schlien. Harris made a comparable mistake in the next race and kept the bike up because he could keep the throttle open. Had he done that when behind Schlien he would have collected him and took them both out. It is a grey area. You clearly have not watched the replay have you. Harris was already falling before Schlein got out of shape. And to answer your question. No Harris can't just go charging in at high speed if there is a slower rider in front of him. Every week in meetings all over the country you will see races where a slower rider has gated. The rider behind has to either choose a different line if he wishes to go charging in or go slower himself and wait for the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 But it would not have made a happorth of difference as 'Boro gave up in heat #1. Think you'll find some of them gave up before heat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I am no fan of Schlein, quite the reverse actually. But that decision last night was ludicrous, the ref got it totally wrong, Harris should have been out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 You clearly have not watched the replay have you. Harris was already falling before Schlein got out of shape. And to answer your question. No Harris can't just go charging in at high speed if there is a slower rider in front of him. Every week in meetings all over the country you will see races where a slower rider has gated. The rider behind has to either choose a different line if he wishes to go charging in or go slower himself and wait for the opportunity. Yes I have. Schlien made an initial mistake before he began to pull a locker. Harris didn’t go in the bend behind a rider going slow. He went in behind a rider who was going at race speed and then made a mistake in the middle of the corner that killed his speed when he was about 5 yards in front of him. I would expect the rider behind to take evasive action if some one in front of him makes a mistake. If they didn’t there would be a lot more injuries than there currently is in the sport. You could have made a point for excluding either IMO. A rider in front making a mistake and a rider behind him coming down is very much a grey area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon G Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Talkin of unacceptable behaviour. What was the pit gate guy up to after the Schlein/Harris incident Why what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Harris should have been excluded,terrible decision,Harris was already laying it down before Schlein even started to lock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&BlackAttack Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yep the ref got it totally wrong! so wrong infact i thought at 1 point he was going to change his mind after watching the replays. Ive never heard a reaction like that before. i thought there was going to be a riot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Things got lively in the pits last night, DON'T MESS WITH BOMBER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 You clearly have not watched the replay have you. Harris was already falling before Schlein got out of shape. And to answer your question. No Harris can't just go charging in at high speed if there is a slower rider in front of him. Every week in meetings all over the country you will see races where a slower rider has gated. The rider behind has to either choose a different line if he wishes to go charging in or go slower himself and wait for the opportunity. Spot on 100% correct if the refs took that decision every week speedway would be a laughing stock to outside people,come to to think of it.................!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I am no fan of Schlein, quite the reverse actually. But that decision last night was ludicrous, the ref got it totally wrong, Harris should have been out. Strange decision by "Three Cards Lawrence" as he's now known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 As i've said before it was a wrong decision, but a wrong decision from the referee & not Bomber & that track staff member should be given his marching orders, out of order. Nice to see Shep keep his cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Then Harris shouldn't be entering the corner at such speed should he? It doesn't matter how you twist it around, it was the fault of Harris. You're still conveniently forgetting that Harris was already down before Schlein even made his mistake. Don't see it that way at all ....Rory made a mistake and Harris layed the bike down as he felt Rory was going to fall ..weather Rory should be ex for that is a matter for debate but no way was Harris already down when Rory made his mistake . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Don't see it that way at all ....Rory made a mistake and Harris layed the bike down as he felt Rory was going to fall ..weather Rory should be ex for that is a matter for debate but no way was Harris already down when Rory made his mistake . Being fair Schlein did look at bit out of shape as he went through the third and fourth bends but Harris was on the deck by the time he really lost it. It was a bad decision and every other week Harris would have been excluded without a second thought but at the end of the day it didnt affect the overall result, the best team won on the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Don't see it that way at all ....Rory made a mistake and Harris layed the bike down as he felt Rory was going to fall ..weather Rory should be ex for that is a matter for debate but no way was Harris already down when Rory made his mistake . Didn't see it that way myself,Harris was already going down before Schlein's mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigsby Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Don't see it that way at all .... Of course you don't, you can't be seen to be being sensible or in agreement can you Edited September 21, 2010 by Rigsby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Coventry Fans: It's not all Panthers fans that cheered/jeered KK when he fell off, infact I was disgusted with a few on the 4th bend, me and my friend was standing there, and a group of kids swearing at the riders, and cheering when they fell off, couldnt of been any older than 8, it was shocking, and a embarrassment, to say they were following the Panthers. Its a minority that did, and it happens at all track, its one of those things you have to deal with, I thought last night was quite a friendly atmosphere, coventry fans around us were easy to talk to etc, so was enjoyable... even though we were crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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