Dudley Heathens Vs Buxton Hitmen - Tuesday 14th September

[shad176]

well done jayne, your guys were excellent tonight and worthy winners, good news on lewis..looked nasty, will say that is the worst perfomance iv seen from lee at monmore, he,s been brilliant all season but looked well down and jake and barrie..2pts between them...not what you want in a home leg of a semi final, round 1 to buxton, i hope we put in a better perfomance on sunday, it was going to be tough with a lead...but now...

[builderbob]

well done jayne, your guys were excellent tonight and worthy winners, good news on lewis..looked nasty, will say that is the worst perfomance iv seen from lee at monmore, he,s been brilliant all season but looked well down and jake and barrie..2pts between them...not what you want in a home leg of a semi final, round 1 to buxton, i hope we put in a better perfomance on sunday, it was going to be tough with a lead...but now...

as the saying goes its not all over till the fat lady sings, cant see barry lee and jake all scoring so low again in one meeting so chins up all to play for

[21st century heathen]

Congrats to Buxton. The best team, by a margin, won the meeting and that has been the general feeling from the Heathens fans. I've not heard or seen any excuses. Certainly there have been grumbles about our performance but everyone is just holding their hands up and saying we were well beaten. I was happy to read on the Dudley website, and again on here, that Lewis is okay after his crash. He's going to have to watch out for those black cats on his way to Monmore in future.

 

Well done to Micky, 'Fred' and Ash for keeping us in the meeting for so long. Rich had no pace but scored reasonable points for a reserve but I know he was not at all happy last night and expects much more of himself. He escapes the worst of the criticism but it wasn't his best performance. Lee had no pace but was clearly wringing it's neck and working damned hard for the points he did get. But in a crunch meeting you desperately need more than that from the number 1 and captain. It was very disappointing to see him struggling so badly for pace when he's having such a good season in the NL, and his return to the PL has been a huge success. That just leaves Jake and Barrie. Other than being abusive, which I won't resort to, all I can say is that I hope they hung their heads in shame after meeting last night. Both were utterly useless. I'll leave it at that!! Overall it was a poor night, but a rare one. The fans will bounce back after 'mourning' the result for a couple of days and I'm sure the riders will too. The KOC may be out of reach now, though with 15 heats to go and no pressure you never know, but we still have the league to go for so it'll be heads down and ass up for those meetings.

 

For Buxton Cook was very good after a first ride blip when he was well beaten, and from the back, by a slow Smarty and blitzed by the length of the straight by Dyer. Branford chipped away and picked up an unexpected and vital win at an important time. He gated well and got in the way a few times, and although a little shaky at times he was picking up points which was clearly job done from his point of view. Allott and Morris were very good value for their points with sharp gating and good raw pace. Morris was also a victim of a 'from the back' effort by Smarty by there's no disgrace in that despite the Heathen's lack of pace. Garrity was, well, different!! He had very good straight line speed but the tight turns seemed to flummox him on any number of occasions which led to up and down results. When he rode a bit smoother he was amongst the big points but otherwise in a bit of trouble. And I think someone should have a word in his ear because his attitude a couple of times was shocking. One to watch if he calms down a bit and just rides smooth and a little more within himself. He was a bit too much on the edge in my humble opinion. No doubt the points he got were valuable and he was a major contributor to the win though.

 

Once again congrats to Buxton. We were well beaten and if anything the score flatters us a little.

[speedwaysquashman]

Congrats to Buxton. The best team, by a margin, won the meeting and that has been the general feeling from the Heathens fans. I've not heard or seen any excuses. Certainly there have been grumbles about our performance but everyone is just holding their hands up and saying we were well beaten. I was happy to read on the Dudley website, and again on here, that Lewis is okay after his crash. He's going to have to watch out for those black cats on his way to Monmore in future.

 

Well done to Micky, 'Fred' and Ash for keeping us in the meeting for so long. Rich had no pace but scored reasonable points for a reserve but I know he was not at all happy last night and expects much more of himself. He escapes the worst of the criticism but it wasn't his best performance. Lee had no pace but was clearly wringing it's neck and working damned hard for the points he did get. But in a crunch meeting you desperately need more than that from the number 1 and captain. It was very disappointing to see him struggling so badly for pace when he's having such a good season in the NL, and his return to the PL has been a huge success. That just leaves Jake and Barrie. Other than being abusive, which I won't resort to, all I can say is that I hope they hung their heads in shame after meeting last night. Both were utterly useless. I'll leave it at that!! Overall it was a poor night, but a rare one. The fans will bounce back after 'mourning' the result for a couple of days and I'm sure the riders will too. The KOC may be out of reach now, though with 15 heats to go and no pressure you never know, but we still have the league to go for so it'll be heads down and ass up for those meetings.

 

 

 

For Buxton Cook was very good after a first ride blip when he was well beaten, and from the back, by a slow Smarty and blitzed by the length of the straight by Dyer. Branford chipped away and picked up an unexpected and vital win at an important time. He gated well and got in the way a few times, and although a little shaky at times he was picking up points which was clearly job done from his point of view. Allott and Morris were very good value for their points with sharp gating and good raw pace. Morris was also a victim of a 'from the back' effort by Smarty by there's no disgrace in that despite the Heathen's lack of pace. Garrity was, well, different!! He had very good straight line speed but the tight turns seemed to flummox him on any number of occasions which led to up and down results. When he rode a bit smoother he was amongst the big points but otherwise in a bit of trouble. And I think someone should have a word in his ear because his attitude a couple of times was shocking. One to watch if he calms down a bit and just rides smooth and a little more within himself. He was a bit too much on the edge in my humble opinion. No doubt the points he got were valuable and he was a major contributor to the win though.

 

Once again congrats to Buxton. We were well beaten and if anything the score flatters us a little.

 

 

First visit to Monmore Green to see racing at this level. I was not disappointed and the standard was a real advert for NL league knockers. Twice in the past few weeks (Scunny) away Buxton stole the show and put on an entertaining meeting. It is what NL is all about giving the opportunity for young riders to cut their teeth or pursue their love of the sport if they are now looking at dentures.

As a visiting fan I was impressed with Dyer, never heard of him before but a real trier and demonstrated in heat 1 good speed.

The Hitmen did the travelling supporters proud, I note the slight criticism of Garrity but after that shocking workshop accident last year where he nearly lost two fingers and a season, I guess the the former under 15 National champion is trying to make up for lost time so his exhuberance is possibly a consequence of this. He is a trier, entertainer and his balance on occasions reminds me of Mort and the Morans. We need riders like him to boost UK speedway. The lad from Manchester is doing ok!

 

Once again a very entertaining meeting apart form the terrace fracas at the end.

[shad176]

terrace fracas ??? what happened there ? handbags at dawn ?

[bruno]

disappointing from the lads but you need your heat leaders scoring better than that.however its not over yet.there will be a lot of us on sunday cheering the lads so you never know.garrity looked a decent rider for the future but needs to calm down which will come.the potentials there tho.no need for the constant arm pumping but you carnt knock the enthusiam.well done to buxton tho they looked very good.looking forward to another visit there on sunday.didnt see any fracas after the meeting the buxton fans seemed noisy but they won so dont blame em.wait till you hear the noise from us on sunday

[speedy bill]

terrace fracas ??? what happened there ? handbags at dawn ?

these so called spedway fans started pushing and shoveing near to a young lady who had a small baby in a pram and

 

should be ashamed of themselfs they have no place at speedway they should be banned well done Buxton a great result with only five riders

[Fourentee]

terrace fracas ??? what happened there ? handbags at dawn ?

 

I walked past two blokes arguing on the steps close to the office; can't have been that, surely? Hardly a fracas (on reflection it was barely an argument).

I'd cut Garrity some slack at that age; he's got time to mature. Nearly wiping out his teammate on the last bend for a consolation third-place point wasn't too clever, mind!

[CrystalCastles]

Welll done to mighty hitmen cleen sweep is on the cards now IMO, nice home win on the cards now

 

Cant see no one touching you 2bh

[squall]

terrace fracas ??? what happened there ? handbags at dawn ?

 

 

I walked past two blokes arguing on the steps close to the office; can't have been that, surely? Hardly a fracas (on reflection it was barely an argument).

 

I saw someone being held back by others, so someone was trying to 'go at it'

[Fourentee]

I saw someone being held back by others, so someone was trying to 'go at it'

 

OK. Near the office? It must have picked up a bit once I was safely out of range.

[heathen79]

Congrats to Buxton. We were well beaten and if anything the score flatters us a little.

 

Agree with this. We were lucky to stay so close, only due to Buxton's R/R and the injury early on to Dallaway.

 

 

What a fantastic performance from the Buxton boys tonight. They all rode their socks off and throughly deserved their win. It was a great meeting to watch too and I have to rank that my favourite meeting of the season so far.

 

On this point, I dont know what the other Heathens fans thought, but my opinion is that the actual racing in this meeting was probably the worst I've seen all season. With a few riders unable to handle the heavy track, it contributed to too many races being spread out affairs. Maybe my standards are pretty high now after some wonderfully entertaining action all year.

 

So looking ahead to the Second Leg, it's a shame it's not as finely balanced as I'd have hoped. Around a 6 point lead for the Heathens would have made for a very tight affair. Psychologically, our boys have a huge task now and will need their best away performance of the year to go and win there.

 

Working on a round target figure of 50 points, then I'd say we need to be looking for something like these kind of scores from our 1-7. Some might perform above their average and some below of course, but let's hope they're all up for it.

 

Smart 10, Dyer 7, Perry 7, Anderson 8, Evans 8, Morris 6, Franklin 4

[colincooke]

Once again a very entertaining meeting apart form the terrace fracas at the end.

 

 

these so called spedway fans started pushing and shoveing near to a young lady who had a small baby in a pram and

 

should be ashamed of themselfs they have no place at speedway they should be banned well done Buxton a great result with only five riders

 

 

I walked past two blokes arguing on the steps close to the office; can't have been that, surely? Hardly a fracas (on reflection it was barely an argument).

 

 

 

I saw someone being held back by others, so someone was trying to 'go at it'

 

 

OK. Near the office? It must have picked up a bit once I was safely out of range.

 

Right i'm gonna ask the question straight out.

If anyone here knows or seen the lout that grabbed me by the throat, threw me to the floor & pinned me down whilst hurling abuse please PM me or contact Nigel Pearson at Dudley with any information.

The actions of this individual we're entirely unprovoked.

This individual needs to be cast out of the sport which we love, there is no place in speedway for thugs like him

Thank you.

CC

Edited September 19, 2010 by colincooke

[Fourentee]

Well, clearly that's either an entirely different incident to the one I saw (which from memory contained a mention of Belle Vue?) or it escalated once I had gone past. So I'm sorry to say that I have nothing useful to contribute in that case.

Colin, did you speak to a steward or enlist any witnesses? I know the rational things don't exactly leap to the forefront of our minds at times when we feel our safety is in danger.

[BigFatDave]

First visit to Monmore Green to see racing at this level. I was not disappointed and the standard was a real advert for NL league knockers.

I had no idea they had Start Tarts in NL racing! Might have to pencil in a couple of third tier meetings next trip - can't wait to see them National League Knockers!!

 

Right i'm gonna ask the question straight out.

If anyone here knows or seen the lout that grabbed me by the throat, threw me to the floor & pinned me down whilst hurling abuse please PM me or contact Nigel Pearson at Dudley with any information.

The actions of this individual we're entirely unprovoked.

This individual needs to be cast out of the sport which we love, there is no place in speedway for thugs like him

Thank you.

CC

Absolutely disgusted that this could happen in our sport. I fully endorse your sentiments, Col. (with the obvious exception of the mis-placed apostrophe)

Edited September 20, 2010 by BigFatDave

[squall]

Right i'm gonna ask the question straight out.

If anyone here knows or seen the lout that grabbed me by the throat, threw me to the floor & pinned me down whilst hurling abuse please PM me or contact Nigel Pearson at Dudley with any information.

The actions of this individual we're entirely unprovoked.

This individual needs to be cast out of the sport which we love, there is no place in speedway for thugs like him

Thank you.

CC

 

'Fraid I can't help. As I said, all I saw was some youth being held back by a bloke. Wasn't near enough to hear anything said and I only looked for a couple of seconds. Doubt I'd recognise anyone again either. Sorry.

Edited September 20, 2010 by squall

[Killer Cat from Mars]

 

On this point, I dont know what the other Heathens fans thought, but my opinion is that the actual racing in this meeting was probably the worst I've seen all season. With a few riders unable to handle the heavy track, it contributed to too many races being spread out affairs. Maybe my standards are pretty high now after some wonderfully entertaining action all year.

Heathen79, I was referring to the fact we won and the spirit it was done in(two men down, backs against the wall, away from home against a team on top form), as being my favourite meeting of the season. Agreed, the racing was strung out at times, and the track appeared difficult, but I got the impression that the Dudley riders were just up against a better team than they had ridden recently, and were taken a little by surprise, so maybe their overtaking moves just weren't working as effectively because the Hitmen were quick and wise to the moves? Only an opinion - but seeing as we're going to race each other 1000 times before the end of the season, it should be fascinating to see how the Hitmen's next visit transpires.

Edited September 20, 2010 by Killer Cat from Mars

[21st century heathen]

On this point, I dont know what the other Heathens fans thought, but my opinion is that the actual racing in this meeting was probably the worst I've seen all season. With a few riders unable to handle the heavy track, it contributed to too many races being spread out affairs.

 

 

I disagree mate. I think that's looking, if only half-heartedly, for some sort of excuse. There was nothing wrong with the track. We met a team that were sharper from the gate most of the night and quicker out in front than most visitors this season. The like of Perry, Morris and Franklin found it more difficult to come from behind, although they all did okay. That coupled with poor showings from Smart, Evans and Anderson, for whatever the varied reasons, meant that the Heathens weren't coming through from the back as they have in virtually every other home meeting (the Mildenhall meeting that never was being the exception).

 

Anyway, onwards and upwards. We've got a league fixture to win this week.

 

 

 

 

 

[RogerM]

Right i'm gonna ask the question straight out.

If anyone here knows or seen the lout that grabbed me by the throat, threw me to the floor & pinned me down whilst hurling abuse please PM me or contact Nigel Pearson at Dudley with any information.

The actions of this individual we're entirely unprovoked.

This individual needs to be cast out of the sport which we love, there is no place in speedway for thugs like him

Thank you.

CC

[RogerM]

Right i'm gonna ask the question straight out.

If anyone here knows or seen the lout that grabbed me by the throat, threw me to the floor & pinned me down whilst hurling abuse please PM me or contact Nigel Pearson at Dudley with any information.

The actions of this individual we're entirely unprovoked.

This individual needs to be cast out of the sport which we love, there is no place in speedway for thugs like him

Thank you.

CC

Sorry about that!

 

So, here we are getting the great name of the 'Heathens' back on track and some idiot seems intent on putting us back where we were 14 years ago. This is not the first time this season either, there was a 'fracas' of some sort at the Mildenhall match as well as I recall. If any Dudley Fan can name and shame this individual then you'll be doing us all a favour when we ask for him to be banned from the Stadium.