Sgp Challenge Final

[T.N.T.]

i am not so sure that we will see Greg in next years GP series if he misses out on top 8.

he once said in an interview (2 years ago) , on a reply about when to quit, that he will do so when he wakes up in the morning and no longer feels that it is fun and when he no longer can keep up with the best.

 

Think he woke up this morning feeling pretty good !

 

 

Think Bombers booked his place in next years gps now after a stunning performance in croatia , theyll find it hard to omit him now

 

Hasn't booked his place but certainly has given them something to worry about.

 

Before this round I would have said Tai was looking to be the only Brit next season, but Bomber is now favourite if there is only 1 Brit but only a top 8 will secure that !

 

 

 

Gollob, Crump and Hampel are safe while Holta and Bjerre should be ok due to earlier results. The next 3 will be interesting with Bomber, Herbie, Holder, Lindgren, Jonsson and Andersen all in contention while one big performance by Nicki could see him jump up the order.

 

 

Much will depend on Lindgren's final position as a top 8 position would give Janusz Kolodiej a Wild Card place to join Emil Sayfutdinov so only 3 Wild Cards would be left for any from Bomber, Herbie, Holder, Jonsson, Andersen, Pedersen and Woffinden who still could be the only Brit nomination but unlikely with Bomber getting 2 podium finishes lately.

 

 

Laguta and Linback would take positions 14 and 15 next season.

Edited August 30, 2010 by T.N.T.

[Dornier]

Think he woke up this morning feeling pretty good !

 

 

 

 

Hasn't booked his place but certainly has given them something to worry about.

 

Before this round I would have said Tai was looking to be the only Brit next season, but Bomber is now favourite if there is only 1 Brit but only a top 8 will secure that !

 

 

 

Gollob, Crump and Hampel are safe while Holta and Bjerre should be ok due to earlier results. The next 3 will be interesting with Bomber, Herbie, Holder, Lindgren, Jonsson and Andersen all in contention while one big performance by Nicki could see him jump up the order.

 

 

Much will depend on Lindgren's final position as a top 8 position would give Janusz Kolodiej a Wild Card place to join Emil Sayfutdinov so only 3 Wild Cards would be left for any from Bomber, Herbie, Holder, Jonsson, Andersen, Pedersen and Woffinden who still could be the only Brit nomination but unlikely with Bomber getting 2 podium finishes lately.

 

 

Laguta and Linback would take positions 14 and 15 next season.

[Dornier]

Its laughable T.N.T. thinks woffenden will be in next years gps at the exclusion of bomber harris . Ben Barkers a better chance than woffenden .

[ladyluck]

Its laughable T.N.T. thinks woffenden will be in next years gps at the exclusion of bomber harris . Ben Barkers a better chance than woffenden .

 

It's laughable if you're sensible, but if you're trying to second guess the brass at BSI it suddenly isn't so funny. Woffinden enjoys the patronage of Sky, who would be very disappointed if he was dropped after just a single season. Remember back to when Pearson first mooted Woffinden for the GPs? His sidekick Kelvin Tatum insisted that it would be unfair to only give him a single season. If BSI ditch Woffinden after a single season, having given him a stupid nomination in the first place, they could be in for a kicking from the Sky team.

Harris did superbly well yesterday and scored very big. However, that single performance shouldn't blind us to his fairly abject displays overall. That was only his fourth appearance in a final in his four GP seasons. It's given him a fantastic chance to qualify for the top eight. If he fails to do so, would he really deserve a FIFTH nomination? I really don't think so. He dined on Cardiff 2007 for three subsequent seasons. Is he really going to be allowed to dine on a second place in Croatia for any number of subsequent seasons?

If Harris makes the top eight, fine and dandy. I think there will be the usual two British riders, regardless of "better" riders missing out, as BSI will not want to drop Woffinden. If Harris fails to make the top eight, it could be just Woffinden for 2011. The rider most vulnerable is surely Hans Andersen, who needed a nomination for 2010, although Jonsson might also be getting a tad nervous.

[Silver Bee]

Perhaps you should change your name to Silver Pirate or Silver Wolve . Certainly you shouldnt be using Silver Bee

 

You're an idiot.

 

I love Chris Harris, but clearly you ignored his first race and the semi where he made the gate. Didn't make a pass in the final either, come to add. As "Ladyluck" said, it was a fine performance from Harris, but don't just make stuff up.

[ladyluck]

The joker in the pack could yet be Darcy Ward. BSI set something of a precedent when they nominated Emil Sayfutdinov on the strength of two World Under-21 titles. If Ward overhauls Bogdanovs lead when the Under-21 series hits Pardubice and claims a second title, he'd have to come into the running.

I don't think BSI would have any qualms about ditching the likes of Andersen (they've ditched him before) and Jonsson, but Nicki P is a different matter entirely. In spite of GP wins along the way, both Jonsson and Andersen have ultimately been disappointing. Ahead of the 2009 season people were tipping Andersen for the world title; he ended up seeking BSI's charity. However, both of those could transform their prospects with a GP win and Jonsson has won in Vojens before.

Kolodziej is out of the running. Lindgren won't make the top eight and BSI won't give a nomination to a Pole with three already there. The two Russians, together with an American (Hancock won't let top eight slip now and has a 2010 GP win to his name) make things difficult for them to keep a Danish trio and a Swedish trio. Potentially I can see the 2011 line-up, in no particular order, being:

 

T Gollob

J Hampel

R Holta

J Crump

C Holder

D Ward

K Bjerre

N Pedersen

F Lindgren

A Lindback

A Laguta

E Sayfutdinov

G Hancock

C Harris

T Woffinden

 

If Ward doesn't win the World Under-21, then either Jonsson (most likely) or Andersen to replace him in the above line-up.

Edited August 30, 2010 by ladyluck

[salty]

It's laughable if you're sensible, but if you're trying to second guess the brass at BSI it suddenly isn't so funny. Woffinden enjoys the patronage of Sky, who would be very disappointed if he was dropped after just a single season. Remember back to when Pearson first mooted Woffinden for the GPs? His sidekick Kelvin Tatum insisted that it would be unfair to only give him a single season. If BSI ditch Woffinden after a single season, having given him a stupid nomination in the first place, they could be in for a kicking from the Sky team.

Harris did superbly well yesterday and scored very big. However, that single performance shouldn't blind us to his fairly abject displays overall. That was only his fourth appearance in a final in his four GP seasons. It's given him a fantastic chance to qualify for the top eight. If he fails to do so, would he really deserve a FIFTH nomination? I really don't think so. He dined on Cardiff 2007 for three subsequent seasons. Is he really going to be allowed to dine on a second place in Croatia for any number of subsequent seasons?

If Harris makes the top eight, fine and dandy. I think there will be the usual two British riders, regardless of "better" riders missing out, as BSI will not want to drop Woffinden. If Harris fails to make the top eight, it could be just Woffinden for 2011. The rider most vulnerable is surely Hans Andersen, who needed a nomination for 2010, although Jonsson might also be getting a tad nervous.

Think you may have called this one correctly. Woffinden would be extremely fortunate to get a second pick, especially as he has struggled this year. BSI must be praying he puts up a much improved show in the remaining GP's to give them a bit more substance to support his inclusion again.

Still, lots can happen in the rest of the season. Hancock and Harris showed in Croatia how one good GP can catapult you up the standings.

Holta is the one rider in the current top 8 who probably wouldn't benefit from a nomination, but hopefully he will do enough to qualify comfortably.

[Dornier]

You're an idiot.

 

I love Chris Harris, but clearly you ignored his first race and the semi where he made the gate. Didn't make a pass in the final either, come to add. As "Ladyluck" said, it was a fine performance from Harris, but don't just make stuff up.

You take things too serious in coventry , you lot down there need to lighten up a bit , Instead of talking bomber down all the time try talking him up a bit . Fed up with

 

reading posts on here from so called coventry fans going on all the time how bad bomber is . Just for once try giving him a bit of credit, hes a gem, and you lot down

 

there dont know it . when hes gone it will be too late .

[liverpool chad]

You take things too serious in coventry , you lot down there need to lighten up a bit , Instead of talking bomber down all the time try talking him up a bit . Fed up with

 

reading posts on here from so called coventry fans going on all the time how bad bomber is . Just for once try giving him a bit of credit, hes a gem, and you lot down

 

there dont know it . when hes gone it will be too late .

 

'HE'S A GEM"

Have you been sniffing glue? At best he's exciting on a deep track when he's missed the gate, other than that he's ordinary at best. Seen him miss the gate at Brandon and he somtimes goes backwards fast!

after forty odd years watching the sport he's no gem believe me!

[JT]

If Harris doesn't finish in the top 8 now, in a season where two almost guaranteed top 8 riders have either missed most of the season through injury or ridden with injuries (Sayfutdinov and Pedersen) then he simply shouldn't be in the series. Sure he was brilliant yesterday but does the odd performance like that compensate for the plethora of sh*te that we witness from him in almost every other GP?

 

JT.

Edited August 30, 2010 by JT

[SuddenSam15]

For the rider I hope Wuffy gets a 2nd series ... but for me ... could not give a toss, I would be happy if both Freddie & Tai only had Wolves to worry about .. who cares who is World Champion .. yeah like the GP's for the racing but not bothered one bit who wins

 

Team speedway does it for me everytime ... so hopefully Tai will be continuing his education with us next season

Edited August 30, 2010 by SuddenSam15

[T.N.T.]

Bfore this round I would have said Tai was looking to be the only Brit next season, but Bomber is now favourite if there is only 1 Brit but only a top 8 will secure that !

 

Woffinden who still could be the only Brit nomination but unlikely with Bomber getting 2 podium finishes lately.

Its laughable T.N.T. thinks woffenden will be in next years gps at the exclusion of bomber harris . Ben Barkers a better chance than woffenden .

 

Maybe if you actually READ the posts you will see what is written !

[Silver Bee]

You take things too serious in coventry , you lot down there need to lighten up a bit , Instead of talking bomber down all the time try talking him up a bit . Fed up with

 

reading posts on here from so called coventry fans going on all the time how bad bomber is . Just for once try giving him a bit of credit, hes a gem, and you lot down

 

there dont know it . when hes gone it will be too late .

 

You're ignoring what I have posted completely.

 

I've not talked down Harris, he was superb, but he did not come from the back in every race!

[Ghostwalker]

According to Ekstrabladet, Nicki is guaranteed a wild card next season if he does not make the top 8.

 

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/anden_sport/motorsport/speedway/article1408184.ece

[ladyluck]

I see on sportowefakty.pl that Swedish legend Ove Fundin has called for an end to the "nationality quota" system that seems to be employed by BSI and for Janusz Kolodziej to be given a nomination ahead of any random British rider.

[tyler42]

I see on sportowefakty.pl that Swedish legend Ove Fundin has called for an end to the "nationality quota" system that seems to be employed by BSI and for Janusz Kolodziej to be given a nomination ahead of any random British rider.

 

Well I think he is right. If you want to class it as true world championship. Kolodziej Has been one of the top riders in both Polish and Swedish leagues, Made the final in his one and only GP. so I think he has a case.

[SuddenSam15]

Well I think he is right. If you want to class it as true world championship. Kolodziej Has been one of the top riders in both Polish and Swedish leagues, Made the final in his one and only GP. so I think he has a case.

 

Hope hes does not get the nod ... straight after the meeting he logs a protest about the top 3's engines and they have to be stripped down .. talk about clutching at straws .. wait another year ya unsporting prat

[manchesterpaul]

Hope hes does not get the nod ... straight after the meeting he logs a protest about the top 3's engines and they have to be stripped down .. talk about clutching at straws .. wait another year ya unsporting prat

 

Got to admit i thought that was a pretty poor act by him. Maybe in his next meeting there will be 15 protests about his engine lol.

[spook]

Hope hes does not get the nod ... straight after the meeting he logs a protest about the top 3's engines and they have to be stripped down .. talk about clutching at straws .. wait another year ya unsporting prat

 

 

he obviously felt that the odds were good that something was amiss.... why would he think that?

 

I think its time that the authorities made sure that everything is transparent and mandatory...... all bikes impounded after a meeting (like F1 and MOTOGP) and nothing hushed up when it suits them.......... the sport has a bad rep going back many decades now and it is high time that it is improved............... I am certain that it would be costly and might take time but the authorities must make sure that they are on the cutting edge and that the field is level for all

 

and for the record Ove is right

[salty]

he obviously felt that the odds were good that something was amiss.... why would he think that?

 

I think its time that the authorities made sure that everything is transparent and mandatory...... all bikes impounded after a meeting (like F1 and MOTOGP) and nothing hushed up when it suits them.......... the sport has a bad rep going back many decades now and it is high time that it is improved............... I am certain that it would be costly and might take time but the authorities must make sure that they are on the cutting edge and that the field is level for all

 

and for the record Ove is right

I'd agree that there needs to be a greater transparency and mors stringent checks of machinary. If only to reassure us that everything is above board. The whispering campaign against Emil last year is an example of what can happen without checking.

 

I'd like to see Kolodziej in the GP's next year, I'm sure he would be competitive and it seems daft if he gets excluded just because of his nationality.