JT Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Bloody hell the last thing Harris deserves is yet another wild card! The sad thing is in interviews he seems to think he warrants a place, nomination after nomination has made him delusional. Some riders are very good at league racing but can never transfer that to a full season of GP racing, Harris is one of them. He's already become a bit of a charity case after four consecutive nominations, another one would make him a laughing stock. There is no way Sayfutdinov won't get a nomination after his thrilling and hugely successful debut season. Hancock and Pedersen are two former world champions and have always been brilliant servants to the series. Unless they retire then BSI cannot seriously turn them down after giving the likes of Nicholls and Harris places year on year. I'd give the other place to Kolodziej after his successful wild card, World Cup and Challenge Final performances Regarding a Brit nomination, I don't think Nicholls cares anymore so he's out. Harris can't continue to dine off his fluke British GP win in 2007 unless he actually qualifies and Woffinden simply isn't ready yet. If we have to have one give it to Richardson, our best ever World Cup rider (in it's current format) and a good rider on the continent. Personally though I'd make the Brits qualify for once... JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) There is no chance of Emil Sayfutdinov being left out next season. That's not going to happen. He's won three GPs last season and made the final in one of the two GPs he completed this year. There would be outrage if he were left out. No one would take the world championship seriously, especially if a relative nonentity like Harris, who has never qualified for the GPs, was included. I have no qualms about Emil being in the series next year in fact I hope he is. The point of my post was to consider what sort of strings could be pulled to get Harris in. They cannot use the GP challenge route this time so the finishing order in the series might be manipulated. Mind you, as a last resort, they may try use the fact that Harris finished 6th on Saturday then argue that they couldn't put Zorro or Jonasson's names forward because there are already 3 Swedes in it!! Edited August 23, 2010 by tocha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) One small general point and that is how can the 2011 GP series determine next year's 'World Championship' when the participants are decided on 2010 showings both in terms of qualifying and, worse still from my perspective, being selected to take part? Edited August 23, 2010 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Chris Harris is British Champion, That should stand for something . And have you forgotten how he did it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDGIE Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 One small general point and that is how can the 2011 GP series determine next year's 'World Championship' when the participants are decided on 2010 showings both in terms of qualifying and, worse still from my perspective, being selected to take part? Bryn, love reading your stuff/adventures, but just who do you think could win the World title next year, who hasnt had a chance to qualify this year?, would suggest candidates are a bit thin on the ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Some riders are very good at league racing but can never transfer that to a full season of GP racing, Harris is one of them. I think you're being generous there. Harris isn't really that good when it comes to league racing. I doubt he is No 1 rider for his team in Poland (a "lower" tier club). He's definitely not No 1 rider for his Swedish club (that honour belongs to a certain Mr Gollob). He's not even Coventry's No 1. He does, however, have a good record in the British Final. That will end up being the justification from his followers if he manages another nomination. "They can't not have the British champion there" will be the mantra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 One small general point and that is how can the 2011 GP series determine next year's 'World Championship' when the participants are decided on 2010 showings both in terms of qualifying and, worse still from my perspective, being selected to take part? I am not sure what you are saying Bryn. Do you mean that all next year's line-up should pre-qualify? Anyway, well done for standing in for Craig on Saturday. I think Peter Juul is Peter Juul Larsen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Chris Harris is British Champion, That should stand for something . And have you forgotten how he did it . Kauko Nieminen is Finnish Champion. Are you arguing a case that he should be in the series next year as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Chris Harris is British Champion, That should stand for something . And have you forgotten how he did it . I haven't forgotten how he did it. By not being excluded for an accident that was clearly his fault and by defeating a bunch of hapless nonentities. Being British champion means nothing these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I haven't forgotten how he did it. By not being excluded for an accident that was clearly his fault and by defeating a bunch of hapless nonentities. Being British champion means nothing these days. Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) I am not sure what you are saying Bryn. Do you mean that all next year's line-up should pre-qualify? Anyway, well done for standing in for Craig on Saturday. I think Peter Juul is Peter Juul Larsen though. I don't see why they shouldn't qualify 'Tocha' as choosing competitors for a 'World Championship' doesn't sit well with me but that's just me I suppose. I enjoyed Saturday and think I did say his full name was indeed Peter Juul Larsen at the beginning but was given to understand that the young Redcar Dane likes to be known as Peter Juul - certainly his local paper up there in the North East appear to think so to - go to: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/north-east-sport/motorsport-news/redcar-bears/2010/08/06/juul-keen-on-full-time-redcar-bears-deal-84229-27010233/ Edited August 23, 2010 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samthepalaceman2 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Maybe Nicki Pedersen might choose to take a year out of the GPs, it wouldn't surprise me as he seems to be suffering quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 HenryW, he went from likely meeting winner to non-qualifier. And GP racing is harsh. Kolodziej rode superbly for 4 races, but then blew it. All the best Rob Yep,unlucky,that's the way it goes,I'm just glad we didn't see yet another Pole in the GP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yep,unlucky,that's the way it goes,I'm just glad we didn't see yet another Pole in the GP's I hope you'll be really disapointed after final GP round when Fredrik Lindgren finish in TOP 8 of final standing It means Kołodziej will qualify to GP 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yep,unlucky,that's the way it goes,I'm just glad we didn't see yet another Pole in the GP's Don't you want to see the best riders in the GPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuddenSam15 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 There is no chance of Emil Sayfutdinov being left out next season. That's not going to happen. He's won three GPs last season and made the final in one of the two GPs he completed this year. There would be outrage if he were left out. No one would take the world championship seriously, especially if a relative nonentity like Harris, who has never qualified for the GPs, was included. You are so nice "LadyMuck" ... I bet Bomber speaks highly of you to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelb Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Don't you want to see the best riders in the GPs? totally agree, but don't think any system has ever achieved this, i mean Laguta was good but will he be in the same position as Tai next year? although great to see another new face in the pack; I do think we may get a shock if Harris doesn't make top 8, IMG may decide we only need an englishman as a cardiff wild card as they are unlikely to trouble the top 6 for some time yet, and to be honest would no english rider really hurt the Sky viewing figures??; and why does everyone think they won't go with 4 poles - there have been calls for yet another Polish track in the GPs, so why not 4 riders; as everyone says they are the ones calling the shots? From English viewpoint, Tai needs a year away from GPs and surely those that have tried and failed over many previous years Rico, Scott and Chris should stick to qualifying by right - if they did it might give them the confidence boost they need? Would probably liven up the British final considerably next year to be the only English rep on cardiff night! Time to back down and re-group as a speedway nation, build up confidence rather than destroy it by soul-destroying GP performances. And as a racers fan, it has been great to see Janusz starting to deliver the promise he showed why back in 2003 - sometimes riders need to take time to mature to really make their mark. Hope he does get a slot one way or the other (Freddie should perform a lot better in the GPs now that he is certain of next year's place, he can ride with freedom so should be interesting to see his response). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuddenSam15 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I hope you'll be really disapointed after final GP round when Fredrik Lindgren finish in TOP 8 of final standing It means Kołodziej will qualify to GP 2011 Freddie will be "experimenting" for the remaining GP's ... so I would not hold your breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I'm not sure that Hancock and Pedersen will be the wildcard shoe-ins that so many people make them out to be. If BSI want to inject some new bloody into the GPs then this is their ideal opportunity. I'm certain that Britons will get two of the wildcards though, in order to ensure the crowd at Cardiff. Maybe Richardson and Nicholls should get a turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure that Hancock and Pedersen will be the wildcard shoe-ins that so many people make them out to be. If BSI want to inject some new bloody into the GPs then this is their ideal opportunity. I'm certain that Britons will get two of the wildcards though, in order to ensure the crowd at Cardiff. Maybe Richardson and Nicholls should get a turn? Injecting new blood is what they tried with Tai!! Not everybody is going to do an Emil i'm afraid and i am sure the BSI would want an American in the series and he out of anybody would deserve a Wild Card. I do agree however with Richardson being given the opportunity. If there is a British rider they are only going to be making the numbers up in all honesty, Scott and Chris have been there and seen it all (mostly in 3rd or 4th place) but Scott has proved what being away from it all has done to him. Going back to a previous point about Harris being British champion. He was very lucky that night in the fact he never got excluded, seriously injured after his crash and the fact Barker took Nicholls out on the 1st bend in the final. You can't knock him for getting back on a bike after his crash but he had lady luck with him at Wolverhampton that night Edited August 24, 2010 by Coventry_Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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