Jacques Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Shhhh, it's supposed to be a secret. And the racing was a lot better than one or two on here have indicated. It was fine, and actually got better as the meeting progressed. There was enough dirt on the track to allow racing right up until the re-run of the 28th race, when Lyons changed lines to pass Fisher on the third bend. All the best Rob Ha ha, so you did then...??? It was warm today mate, bet you were sweating like a glassblower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Ha ha, so you did then...??? It was warm today mate, bet you were sweating like a glassblower It's never warm at the showground....... Could have done with being in that "fleece" myself...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Shhhh, it's supposed to be a secret. And the racing was a lot better than one or two on here have indicated. It was fine, and actually got better as the meeting progressed. There was enough dirt on the track to allow racing right up until the re-run of the 28th race, when Lyons changed lines to pass Fisher on the third bend. All the best Rob Agree there was some decent battles in the final but you can count on one hand the number of passes in 28 heats?? Competitive racing it certainly was but not really entertaining I thought, nevermind a good day it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Quite enjoyed the day out all in all - the Showground looks so diferent now to the last time I went In a good way.....?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 (edited) No merlin?? The fact was fisher took him out simple, less than ten yards from us So you were a little under 30ft away?! Not that close really. I was in the grandstand so didn't see too well, from my position (similar to the view of the ref) Fisher shot across (intentional or not i do not know) and Howe bailed out, which was his only option other than going over the fence after hitting Fisher. So it seems the decision was right, whether Fishers motives were malicious or not, only he knows. Agree there was some decent battles in the final but you can count on one hand the number of passes in 28 heats?? Competitive racing it certainly was but not really entertaining I thought, nevermind a good day it was. I'd suggest you have more fingers than everyone else on your hands then, there was a fair bit of passing. I agree though in main the meeting was average, there were some very bright spots though too. Edited August 15, 2010 by RocketBen1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 It's never warm at the showground....... Could have done with being in that "fleece" myself...... I'm sure Rob would have had room for you in his... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 So it seems the decision was right, whether Fishers motives were malicious or not, only he knows. No doubt the decision was right, but if you'd seen the lift Fisher got, that would clear any doubt of it being deliberate or not, he clearly wasn't expecting it and was out of control. An accident, with Howe the innocent victim of the lift. Rico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Disappointed Newcastle missed out on a place in the final. Especially after Rene had done all the hard work to get out in front before his bike let him down. If he hadn't had a failure we would actually have gone through as winners of 1st semi - ahead of Birmingham. Track was shocking for the first dozen or so races - I think I only saw 1 pass after the 1st and 2nd bends in the those races. At least it was much better for the final - and there were some good races in that. I was also disappointed by the racecard in my £4 programme - we had to do enough writing for the final without having to change half the heats in the 2nd semi too. On the plus side it was good that when there was a delay in one set of semi's (due to falls/injuries) they switched back to the other semi to prevent a delay. And of course - well done to Birmingham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 GET IN!!!!! :approve: I'll tell you something my humble pie with Custard was very tasty after being quite negative earlier in the week . Fantastic Performance, I have to take my hat off to all of them. No more negativity from me. UP THE BRUMMIES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 (edited) I'd suggest you have more fingers than everyone else on your hands then, there was a fair bit of passing. I agree though in main the meeting was average, there were some very bright spots though too. I've just re-counted the fingers on my hands and I have four and a thumb on each and I agree with Arson Fire - very little passing. There were a few tussles, well, riders going round fairly close to one-another but not much actual passing. I've witnessed some good meetings at EoES but this wasn't one of them being very close to a bore-fest. Got the same moans about the programme and the extra quid to park but we'd come prepared and ready to sit out on the bank by the third bend so the £2 extra for the stand wasn't an issue and, in answer to someone who posted three or four pages back there's no extra charge to sit in the stand for Panthers' matches. Congratulations to the Birmingham Kangaroos for a deserved win but four/five Aussies in a PL team? They looked a good bet when I first saw the team with their old EL campaigners - Lyons usually picked up points off of lower-order riders around EoES and you could always guarantee Johnno would pick up a heat win - just one - a meeting and he didn't disappoint. I thought Sheffield's beleaguered team performed well getting to the final and it certainly took me back a few years to see Richard Hall and Ricky Ashworth winning heats at the EoES, ditto for Shane Parker. Not the racing I expected but the weather held up well and for the tenner it cost me it was an enjoyable enough occasion. Edited August 15, 2010 by Barney Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 He looked across and saw Howe had the drive round outside and fenced him. The video will prove it.. How awful that you suggest that a rider would deliberately fence another one. Ahhh but wait it's Ryan Fisher. Yet amazingly we have a different version of the event but this time it's not from a Fisher hater. No doubt the decision was right, but if you'd seen the lift Fisher got, that would clear any doubt of it being deliberate or not, he clearly wasn't expecting it and was out of control. An accident, with Howe the innocent victim of the lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 (edited) I've just re-counted the fingers on my hands and I have four and a thumb on each and I agree with Arson Fire - very little passing. There were a few tussles, well, riders going round fairly close to one-another but not much actual passing. I've witnessed some good meetings at EoES but this wasn't one of them being very close to a bore-fest. Got the same moans about the programme and the extra quid to park but we'd come prepared and ready to sit out on the bank by the third bend so the £2 extra for the stand wasn't an issue and, in answer to someone who posted three or four pages back there's no extra charge to sit in the stand for Panthers' matches. Congratulations to the Birmingham Kangaroos for a deserved win but four/five Aussies in a PL team? They looked a good bet when I first saw the team with their old EL campaigners - Lyons usually picked up points off of lower-order riders around EoES and you could always guarantee Johnno would pick up a heat win - just one - a meeting and he didn't disappoint. I thought Sheffield's beleaguered team performed well getting to the final and it certainly took me back a few years to see Richard Hall and Ricky Ashworth winning heats at the EoES, ditto for Shane Parker. Not the racing I expected but the weather held up well and for the tenner it cost me it was an enjoyable enough occasion. Not sure I understand that ?? Edit : Is it a problem? Edited August 15, 2010 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Not sure I understand that ?? Edit : Is it a problem? I dont either Jacques, Its a bit rich coming from a Panthers fan, how many British riders do they have in their 1-7. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 How awful that you suggest that a rider would deliberately fence another one. Ahhh but wait it's Ryan Fisher. Yet amazingly we have a different version of the event but this time it's not from a Fisher hater. Since when have I ever posted anything about Ryan fisher before?? Let alone suggest I hate him?? Come on Miss multi quote live up to your billing and quote a post from me about Ryan fisher. As I can assure you there is not a single one so get your facts right please!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Re the Fisher-Howe incident.My view from in line with the start,the referee was right behind me,was that Fisher was out of control with the lift he got.I dont believe that it was intentional at all.I think Fisher was rightfully exc/disq.As has been said,Howe was the innocent victim of the incident. However,my mate sat next to me thought the referee got it wrong,he blamed Howe! So it all comes down to our own interpretation.At the end of the day,its the referees opinon that really matters. Edited August 16, 2010 by BobC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Re the Fisher-Howe incident.My view from in line with the start,the referee was right behind me,was that Fisher was out of control with the lift he got.I dont believe that it was intentional at all.I think Fisher should have been exc/disq.As has been said,Howe was the innocent victim of the incident. However,my mate sat next to me thought the referee got it right! So it all comes down to our own interpretation.At the end of the day,its the referees opinon that really matters. from where i stood exit of turn 2 fisher tried to pass on the inside of turn 2 picked up unwanted drive which then rocketed/lifted him towards howe racing incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Firstly - Congratulations to the winners Birmingham. To add to 'all' the moans about the Prog (haven't read it yet but the mistakes for the line-ups for some of the 'Second Semi-Final' heats are inexcusable) which was advertised at £4, the Car Park (which was advertised at £2) and the Stand (which as far as I am aware wasn't advertised at £2 extra), I also thought the presentation for a major event was lacklustre. Why no 'Centre Green' Presenter. After all we had David Rowe doing the occasional interview (great timing by the way in interviewing Ivan Mauger as the riders came out for the 'First Semi' heat 8, when it surely would have been better to wait until the interval, two races later? ) . The P.A. on the back straight wasn't perfect either. Other than that, generally the racing was poor. Follow my leader stuff mainly. Best move of the day was Rene Bach, going from last to first, only for him to be cruely stopped by a faulty air filter. How does a faulty air filter stop an engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 How does a faulty air filter stop an engine? It got sucked into the carb apparently?? Or something along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Firstly - Congratulations to the winners Birmingham. To add to 'all' the moans about the Prog (haven't read it yet but the mistakes for the line-ups for some of the 'Second Semi-Final' heats are inexcusable) which was advertised at £4, the Car Park (which was advertised at £2) and the Stand (which as far as I am aware wasn't advertised at £2 extra), I also thought the presentation for a major event was lacklustre. Why no 'Centre Green' Presenter. After all we had David Rowe doing the occasional interview (great timing by the way in interviewing Ivan Mauger as the riders came out for the 'First Semi' heat 8, when it surely would have been better to wait until the interval, two races later? ) . The P.A. on the back straight wasn't perfect either. Other than that, generally the racing was poor. Follow my leader stuff mainly. Best move of the day was Rene Bach, going from last to first, only for him to be cruely stopped by a faulty air filter. I felt ripped off too. Im a panther supporter and its usually £1 to park so why £2 for this meeting? The prog was a joke, and to charge to sit in the grandstand was a complete p*** take!! The PA was next to useless so I complaind twice once to a member of staff and once to MR Frost. Didnt anyone think to check it before the meeting NO!!! Be a long time before Im back for this meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Disappointed Newcastle missed out on a place in the final. Especially after Rene had done all the hard work to get out in front before his bike let him down. If he hadn't had a failure we would actually have gone through as winners of 1st semi - ahead of Birmingham. Track was shocking for the first dozen or so races - I think I only saw 1 pass after the 1st and 2nd bends in the those races. At least it was much better for the final - and there were some good races in that. I was also disappointed by the racecard in my £4 programme - we had to do enough writing for the final without having to change half the heats in the 2nd semi too. On the plus side it was good that when there was a delay in one set of semi's (due to falls/injuries) they switched back to the other semi to prevent a delay. And of course - well done to Birmingham The highlighted line was the be all and end all of the meeting. The only real race of the night was Rene's now infamous EF ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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