Whose Idea Was It To Use Kings Lynn ?!?

[Anders]

Kings Lynn has always been a good race track, much favoured by many top riders for many years, that can only have been enhanced by tonights meeting.

If we (Sweden) weren't meant to win, and obviously we weren't, I was hoping for a British win. Why? Because I wouldn't want any Brit to think that for Great Britain to win, a WTC meeting must be held on a trick track. King's Lynn IS an excellent racing track (though it didn't ride very well early on), and alongside Peterborough, there have been entertaining meetings in recent seasons. If staging more WTC meetings, please keep them at entertaining tracks, and not those which may give Britain more of an advantage.

[John Hannibal Thomas]

After a miserable first 19 heats the meeting sprung to life, then calmed down again at around heat 24.

Congrats to Team GB, I think if they had a real EL quality team manager like Middlo they would have hit nearer 60.

[Steve Shovlar]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

Edited July 27, 2010 by Steve Shovlar

[BritPete]

Rob Lyon took a lot of stick last year, quite deservedly in my opinion. You have to give credit where it's due though, he got it spot on this year and now we are in the final.

 

 

As for Steve's bletherings, well, what do you expect? After all, in his closed speedway world, nothing exists outside of Poole!

[westhamboy66]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

Again what a load of tosh.

Easy FREE Parking pat on the back for that

Improving facilities that rival most if not all EL tracks

Good crowd and I got in without any sort of queue

Decent track

Excellent racing from wherever you viewed it

Great team spirit driven performance

All round the best night of speedway for me since we had victory snatched from us by Sweden at Poole.

Pat on the back for All concerned at KL

Pat on the back for Rob Lyons to swallow his pride after last year

Pat on the back for the riders

Great support great night shame about the negative comments when someone stands by what they have said even when proved wrong on all accounts. Perhaps Steve would have been happier with an Aussie win poor crowd rubbish track etc!

[semion]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

 

Whats that I can smell, ? Is it Horse ? Nope...is it Cow...nope....I know, Its BULLS4IT

[colincooke]

Well that was fantastic, particularly after the dross that we witnessed at Gorzow.

 

You could see all the riders we're enjoying that track, each & every one of them we're giving it everything.

 

This is what speedway is all about, fast & furious, when riders can overtake in those situations you know how good it is.

 

 

I'm over the moon we are in the final, i'm not to sure we would've got there had we had to do the race-off, you know what Vojens is & we are not at our best on a track like that.

 

So take a bow to CHRIS HARRIS SCOTT NICHOLLS LEE RICHARDSON TAI WOFFINDEN & SIMON STEAD.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2010 by colincooke

[Bagpuss]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

 

Dear me.

 

I'm not for a minute saying that the PL is perfect and I'm not really interested in starting an EL v PL debate (as you seem to be) but outside three or four clubs the EL is in a bit of a state. Once they sort it out one or two clubs may look to step up. Would like nothing more than for my club to do so, especially after last night. Why should a PL club not get a big meeting if they have a track and stadium superior to a lot of EL clubs?

 

And for what its worth I thought last night wasn't very far behind last year's at at P'boro if it was at all.

[noggin]

All clubs are part of the BSPA so should be able to host these meetings if they are capable. Thoroughly enjoyed it and looking forward to the Final now.

[iris123]

The fact that Bydgoszcz were relegated didn't stop them hosting a GP.Just a shame that there are so few tracks in GB with (half?)decent facilities.

[scotty2hotty]

Absolutely elated GB won. Excellent meeting and there certainly seemed to be a lot of team spirit from the Brits, nice to see Scotty and Bomber putting their differences aside to work together. Anyone doubting Wuffy's nationality leanings only had to see the look on his face and his singing of the national anthem on the podium to see he is dedicated to Team GB. Scotty has always been my hero and was lovely to see him on such fine form tonight and enjoying his racing again.

A lot of people having a go at the Aussies for their messing about to the camera, but to be honest, I don't see anything wrong with it, its nice to see riders with smiles for a change and it adds a bit of humour to the proceedings. A lot are putting it down to arrogance, but I see it as a group of guys just enjoying their racing together and having fun.

Only downside for me was the damn greenfly swarm that hit the stadium, they were driving a lot of people mad and i am still picking them out of my cleavage this morning!!!!

[micman]

Only downside for me was the damn greenfly swarm that hit the stadium, they were driving a lot of people mad and i am still picking them out of my cleavage this morning!!!!

 

Too much information!

[Team Man]

What a terrific night, well done to buster and all the Kings Lynn staff, from the word go when you arrived the car parking was well organised, the track was well prepared, exellent lighting, liked the new lights added to the Apex of the bends.

 

I think a special mention must go to the presentation, with Mike Bennett getting the crowd going with the air horns, and in particular, the Air Horn Mexican Wave, I thought that was brilliant, and timed well to the opening of the Sky broadcast, and a mention must go to the chioce of the music, particularly the Playing of Land of Hope and Glory with the brilliant win, whether people who watched Sky heard any of that I don't know, I would love to see a recording of the Sky broadcast to watch it all over again.

 

And a big well done to Rob Lyon, Scot Nichols, Lee Richardson, Tai Woffinden, Simon Stead and Chris Harris, they worked as a Team indeed.

[semion]

Team Man ...I watched some of Sky coverage when i got home. You could certainly hear "Dont Stop believing" ( Journey) a few times when English riders won.

[555dan]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

 

What complete and utter rubbish - don't think there are many tracks in Britain above Kings Lynn for surface, prep and racing.

You obviously don't watch premier and national league racing very much - compared to elite league they are more entertaining by far.

[gary moore]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

 

 

I go to Peterboro` but to Be honest I would much rather watch P/L racing any day.Roll on the 4TT or shouldnt that be at Peterboro`?

 

Not everyone wants to go to the top,Even I turned a job down with UFO in the 70`s `cos I didnt want to travel and be away from my family for long periods and have played in pubs and clubs etc and still am!!

I also lost a lot of friends who hit the road as well(drugs and booze).Who`s the mug??

[Drac]

Utter madness to use Kings Lynn.

 

It's not an EL track. Team GB hardly ever ride on it. Where's the home advantage?

 

Why wasn't a British EL track used? SWC features EL riders, not PL riders. Kings Lynn should have no right to hold this meeting as they show scant interest in mixing with the better teams.

 

Why chose a track on a Monday which is about as remote as you can get?

 

Why chose a track that Batchelor and Ward were brought up on?

 

This meeting should have been held at Monmore, Coventry or Poole, or a track where the British riders hold the upper hand over their rivals.

 

This is going to be a walk in the park for the Aussies. Poor call to go to KL.

 

Oh dear, dont you feel more stupid than normal

[RichardJTyrrell]

I still stick to what I said. PL tracks shouldn't get a sniff of a top meeting.

 

If they don't have th ambition to try and be the best, they shouldn't be able to bid and run top meetings. Where's the incentive for these clubs to improve if all they want to do is wallow in mediocrity?

 

Sure that will P off PL fans but as far as I am concerned, the PL Riders Championship and PL 4 TT is as big as it should get for PL clubs. If clubs like kings Lynn want to hold events like this they should be racing in the EL. No wonder british Speedway is so far down the pan when British clubs show such a lack of ambition to improve.

 

I thought the racing was not great last night. A few good heats later on and the fact that Team GB won through made it look a lot better than it actually was. It couldn't hold a candle to the Peterborough meeting last year.

 

I have to take issue with people like Steve Shovlar, and Orion for that matter, with regard to the second paragraph above. They are indicative of people who think that speedway outside the Elite League hardly exists, and I don't think that last nights meeting at a Premier League track was 'wallowing in mediocity', far from it.

 

Many of us in Oxford don't go to speedway any more - lost to the sport. Ive only seen three live meetings this season, over the Cardiff weekend, which I thoroughly enjoyed but can't find the motivation to get to what is now my nearest tracks ie Swindon or Coventry. I can't break the habit of watching every Monday or GP Saturdays on Sky although I sometimes wonder why. A trip to watch Oxford at, say, Belle Vue, Wolverhampton or Poole used to be an event looked forward to. Now it seems that the cameras are there every two or three weeks making it all so familiar. It seems to be the same fourteen riders every week in the same teams, twice a week if you count the GPs, that is if they all turn up. One of the attractions of the World Cup is that each team has the right amount of riders in the right teams, no guest riders, no rider replacement, well prepared track, all competing at the same level. This could also be said, in the main, of the Premier league in this country. In the last season at Oxford we were able to compare Elite with Conference - guess which one most spectators enjoyed the most? It all confirms my original thoughts a few seasons ago that Elite League speedway is nothing more than a circus performed by travelling players, and there aren't enough to go round, making a living from those who still care enough to go and pay to watch. Comments like those above are made by such people who probably realise that Elite is not Elite at all and there is a drastic need for extra teams injection which, of course, would dilute the product even more.

 

Far from showing a lack of ambition to improve, Premier/Conference teams/clubs probably think they are improving where they are, cutting their cloth accordingly. How many other tracks like Kings Lynn are there in the country? I hope Buster Chapman's 'gates' greatly improve after seeing that meeting on the tele, I think he deserves it for the effort he puts in.

 

As for belittling GBs efforts on the track its common in sport that you can only beat whats put in front of you.

 

In the meantime I think the subject of this thread completely misses the point!

[colincooke]

Amazing how remarkably uninformed or blinkered some can be.

The EL needs to get it's shop in order, most of it isn't a spectacle it's gate & go dross, thankfully at Brandon we now have a curator on the track that can possibly improve things slightly, at least what i seen on Friday suggested so.

This wouldn't be the norm though it would be the exception apart from 1 or 2 other circuits.

 

I've seen PL & NL racing this year & in previous seasons & have come away wishing to return rather than returning by force of habit.

 

Those that say EL tracks are the best & PL shouldn't have F.I.M licenses are really just EL snobs to be frank.

 

ATB

CC Elite league regular.

[Steve Shovlar]

Never expcted many to agree with the first post on this thread. They are my thoughts and I knew when writing them that the vast majority would whole heartedly disagree. I expected the abuse and got it, though its water off a ducks back to me.

 

End of the day I don't think PL tracks should be allowed to host major events, regardless of what facilities are like. They should earn the right, and the right is won by their club racing in the top flight.

 

Don't agree? Fair enough. As I said I didn't expect many to agree and certainly not KL or PL fans.

 

The reason this sport is in the state it is is simply because clubs would rather sit in the PL than come up to the big boys. Riders stagnate in the PL, never fulfill their ambitions. The PL is now full of has beens and won't ever be's. A tiny percentage come through to EL from the PL in this country, and they are Jonny Foriegner. Sundstrom next year, Ward last, Holder the year before. A couple of others but the PL is clogged up with riders on their swansong or simply not good enough to progress any further. When was the last Brit to come through the PL ranks to really make a mark? Woffinden? He learnt his skills in the much more competitive Aussie system. After him?

 

PL fans say they wouldn't want their club tomove up to the EL because there's not enough clubs and therefore meetings. Well what if three/four clubs made the effort and mved up? There woould certainly be enough clubs then, wouldn't there?

 

Clubs like Kings Lynn, Sheffield and Birmingham should be EL clubs. And then IMO they could hosts meetings like last night. But giving a PL club a top meeting just because they wanted to host it gives no incentive to them to consider riding at a higher level and have riders like last night gracing their track every week.