Sleepy Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Have to say it wasnt what I hoped for. Its OK implementing new things like the grading system, but only if it doesnt completely disrupt the structure! As for some of the other things, the guest changes seem a positive step, but maybe its extending too far. Hopefully there will be some common sense in the way it is organised in practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 "Both leagues have scrapped the traditional tactical substitute regulation in favour of a new ruling which allows team managers to nominate two riders whose points can count as double if a team is eight points behind." The way this is worded, it implies that the two riders are nominated prior to the meeting - is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 EL 10 EL clubs 2 home 2 away = 36 meetings Seems ok but may run into trouble Grading system - could be ok need more detail 2 rider from the P/L will can be used to for 1 position in the team. – Double up riders will only be for ACU permit holders riders and who have not previously achieved an EL average of 5 or above. I think this is ok PL 15 clubs. ok 45 points ok Premier Trophy is back not sure Both Leagues No Tac Subs! Sucks Golden Joker. Riders nominated to score double points when 8 points down. Guest Rules Sucks Only the top rider can be replaced by a guest the other riders will be replaced by Rider Replacement Agree I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 (edited) Only the top rider can be replaced by a guest the other riders will be replaced by Rider Replacement CRAP, should be no guests or all guests. Guest for a number one bt not others is terrible. Newport had two rider with averages higher than Berwicks number one this year, so in Berwick vs Newport we could have had Niels missing and they coudl have had Makovsky(?) missing, they could hav a guest for the 8.3ish rider while we could not have a guest for a 9+ rider. I think the BSPA are running around shouting out my signature while men in whte coats run around behind them. Edited November 19, 2003 by SCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 "Both leagues have scrapped the traditional tactical substitute regulation in favour of a new ruling which allows team managers to nominate two riders whose points can count as double if a team is eight points behind." The way this is worded, it implies that the two riders are nominated prior to the meeting - is this correct? Kevin can you post that here.... http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...wtopic=5596&hl= Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 What a farce ...joke.....I agree to much sun and booze must have effected the small brain cells BSPA have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom House Kid Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 "Both leagues have scrapped the traditional tactical substitute regulation in favour of a new ruling which allows team managers to nominate two riders whose points can count as double if a team is eight points behind." The way this is worded, it implies that the two riders are nominated prior to the meeting - is this correct? "Golden Joker. Riders nominated to score double points when 8 points down. Can only be used twice." If riders nominated prior to hostilitys what if rider/riders injured during meeting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Only the top rider can be replaced by a guest the other riders will be replaced by Rider Replacement CRAP, should be no guests or all guests. Guest for a number one bt not others is terrible. Newport had two rider with averages higher than Berwicks number one this year, so in Berwick vs Newport we could have had Niels missing and they coudl have had Makovsky(?) missing, they could hav a guest for the 8.3ish rider while we could not have a guest for a 9+ rider. I think the BSPA are running around shouting out my signature while men in whte coats run around behind them. SCB can you post that here... Guest Topic http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...wtopic=5597&hl= Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rach Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Any news on the conference league, ... has the bspa forgotten there is 3 leagues!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 theres no need to lock this topic. it can be left open for general views about the AGM as a whole.... there are two other polls and discussions about main points including Guest facility and Golden Joker. Guests facility thread can be found at http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=5597 and the Golden Joker can be found here http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...?showtopic=5596 Mod note..please be careful with the language content..i am as frustrated as many of you, but lets keep the language down ..please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Any news on the conference league, ... has the bspa forgotten there is 3 leagues!! Rach.. the CL conference is in January. nothing happens until then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 (edited) Think im gonna be echoin everyone else here when i say this is absolute rubbish .... suppose at least we still have the 45 point rule and we have the premier trophy back but what the heck were they thinking when they made up the rules about guests , if anyone ends up in the positin that Kings Lynn was at the end of the season then they really are gonna be stuck ...it will definitely go down in history , one man riding against seven And about the golden double rule , again im echoing what someone else will have said , this will be helping teams in a way and bringing an "exciting climax " ... nu uh !!! will just confuse people for the bonus and say if anyone has a top heatleader in there team he could easily go out there twice and get double point each time , and that could easily swing a match either way ... not fair is all i say but i suppose before we criticise to much.. we can at least see what else happens . Hopefully it will actually be something good cos not a lot of things that are good come from the BSPA at the minute Edited November 19, 2003 by Bandits4eva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 bonus points not included in averages is open to so much fiddling it's worrying. Watch the top guys team riding a lot more though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Yes SCB....and they get to talk speedway with the luxaries of Sun Sand Sea and Sex in RUGBY!!!!! "that'll teach me not to quote you eh!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Yes SCB....and they get to talk speedway with the luxaries of Sun Sand Sea and Sex in RUGBY!!!!! "that'll teach me not to quote you eh!!" Ok, you lost me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Yes SCB....and they get to talk speedway with the luxaries of Sun Sand Sea and Sex in RUGBY!!!!! "that'll teach me not to quote you eh!!" Ok, you lost me there! you posted an answer to Rach and then changed it....i answered it beforeyou took it off but didn't quote it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 you posted an answer to Rach and then changed it....i answered it beforeyou took it off but didn't quote it!! Got ya! you posted before me so you must be too quick tonight, cleary too quick for your own good at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgl07 Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 There is only one way to stop this nonesense. That is a boycott. No season tickets to be purchased at this stage to give the buffoons time to reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 bonus points not included in averages is open to so much fiddling it's worrying. Watch the top guys team riding a lot more though! That's just what we all want isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 bonus points not included in averages is open to so much fiddling it's worrying. Watch the top guys team riding a lot more though! That's just what we all want isn't it Seeing the lower order rider out of the job because the top guys have finished behind them to get a lower average? VERY DODGY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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