Dekker Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Flipping heck Dekker, me and Crazy Munchie in one day - you must be losing your touch!!! Eeeeeek x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 MYLOR Your analysis is spot on although I dont think the promoters have tried to hide their reasons. In a full market, any employee can ask for the earth and get it. In a supply exceeds the demand situation, the employee has to extract the highest pay and still get employed. In the last couple of seasons. and in one case this coming season, some big names were not hired because they ignored this. Unfortunately in speedway the Promoter gets chastised for not doing enough to retain the rider, whilst the rider does not get blamed for being greedy. Ah well, thats life. I hope the EGM does not destroy anything but has been called to rectify minor problems. With riders signed by most teams, its a bit late to change again now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 hope the EGM does not destroy anything but has been called to rectify minor problems Am I alone in wondering if this EGM has more to do with a promoter throwing toys out of the pram cos someone pinched his sweeties? Strange that news of it surfaced on only one clubs website. Odds on Neil posting denials 10/1 .... 3 hours 5/1 ..... 2 hours evens ....within the hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 sorry i do not understand what and who are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 (edited) sorry i do not understand what and who are you talking about? Ahhh so you are really a member of the BSPA Your comment suggests you have the perfect qualifications Edited December 4, 2003 by Midnight_Lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalewhale Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 I got a nasty feeling that the EGM is about a certain promoter not being too chuffed about THE transfer that didn't/hasn't happened. I was rather hoping tho' that it would be because the nitwits had realized that the way the top two grades have been done is complete arse, ands that they were going to change it to one A and one B or two B's rather then wot it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 I think you might be right there Shalewhale. According to the Speedway Star, Peterborough are struggling to put a team together. Mick Horton quote..... "I want to run in the Elite League but certain things will have to happen on Monday. We need protection over Kenneth Bjerre and we will also need some leeway over top-end riders." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 (edited) Mick Horton quote..... "I want to run in the Elite League but certain things will have to happen on Monday. We need protection over Kenneth Bjerre and we will also need some leeway over top-end riders." 'Oh yeah, no worries Mick, you have Rico and Sully and we'll make sure we sort out Belle Vue over Bjerre too. Coventry won't mind you having two top graded riders, they wanted to ship out Hamil and Rico. Tel doesn't care he hated Loram and the fans at Eastbourne never wanted him back. Oh and while we're at it, those cockney boys at Arena wouldn't want Hamil or Hancock (insert any really) to go with Loram, will just make it better for you mate.' Now what was that self-destruct sequence? Leeway over top-end riders, don't make me laugh that's just embarrassing. Edited December 4, 2003 by Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalewhale Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 When Tuesday* comes............................................................. (*= or whichever day we find out whats happening!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 i have just read what that mick horton said and what an idiot he is especially the bit where he goes on about when they went there all knowing which riders they wanted to keep. Newsflash mick it sounds like they are all having a laugh at your expense. Can you imagine them all sitting there. "yes of course mick we are not going to try and have any riders you wish to have" "not" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Help Me !! As a supporter who just wants to watch racing and not a subscriber to the SS, can anyone point to a place where the details of the changes regarding the grading system are given ???? They are not available on the BSPA site (no surprise there - what a content free site that continues to be). There seems to be suggestions in the previous pages of this topic here as to what the points spread per each grading band is but which one is the correct one ?? Seems like scrapping the points system and introducing a grading system (based on the points system) is a bold decision - Good points - it help the clubs with a distribution of riders and hopefully a reasonably competitive EL. maybe it helps reduce costs, and limit the effect of the GP on some clubs. Bad point - without knowing the details of the grading system (but reading the Bees website) it would appear that there are more Grade A riders than Grade A positions (but Im not sure on this - help/info would be appreciated) - so the people running the sport have made a decision that eliminates some of the best riders from continuing in the sport ?? - please tell me Im wrong, and put my doubts to rest Thanks in advance, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grave Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Not definite, but bandings seem to be: - A - +9.5 B - +8.0 C - +6.5 D - +5.5 E - +4.5 F - Rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 paulr - It's worse than you thought. You can only have one rider from the top two bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Thanks guys. Im sure that with Coventry having to choose 1 rider from AJ, Lee and Hammil that the actual points range per grade is known - I just couldnt find it anywhere !! I was just interested to determine how many A and B grade riders there were knowing that a max of 10 per grade will be allowed to ride in the EL next season. If Steve Turners posting on seasons averages are correct (and who am I to doubt the legend that is Steve Turner ??!!) then it seems there are some riders without an EL job next year ?? if thats the case then its one hell of a decision by the BSPA. Not that I will be watching much EL next year due to race night change at Brandon !! ...as long as Armadale stays on Fridays then I will be OK for my Speedway fix..... is Stoke my only 'weekend in the Midlands' option ?? Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Any change in the heat leader total grades, or is it still 13 combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 If the Airfence rumour is right then I think it's about time ALL tracks had them whether they be EL,PL,CL all racing is dangerous not just the experienced in the Elite...............what about the "I've got to make an impression" league where they push themselves to the limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Which league will that be Shazzy? It's actually very easy to say that all tracks should have air fences but two things spring to mind. Where do the tracks get the money from and also some tracks would have to close as putting in an air fence would make those tracks far too narrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 It would be fantastic to have airfences at every track, but sadly it's just not practical. I do feel that there must be some middle ground to be found though. Obviously some fences are better than others. Monmore, for example, is very forgiving compared to say P'brgh, for example. Doing something to improve rider safety is preferable to doing nothing. Any chance the powers that be will put their heads together, and find the best solution on a track by track basis? (no? didn't think so ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 misunderstood the airfence part derrrrrrrr at me! I just thought that it would be safety wise good for airfences at all tracks, unfortunately I do realise a lot of places are too small so therefore cannot have them, as for where the money comes from..............either get a BIG company to sponsor it or maybe even ermmmmmm SKY now where does that money go? if it's ploughed back into the track there are a few where sky is not in place and they look better than some of those on SKY. Example: Eastbourne Ladies Toilets yuk! put some money into making that a better place, those toilets haven't changed since the 80's (ok got a title for the next poll "The Ladies toilets at YOUR home track" lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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