World U/21 Championships

[dirt]

The first round of the U/21 World Finals is due to begin tonight. Does anyone know if their'll be any updates?

I would appreciate any info including starting time, link to updates etc. Thought their would be a fair bit of interest in this event, as it should seperate the men from the boys. Ward was 5/1 last year to win, and he should probably be evan longer odds this year!! As there is a number of top riders in contention.

Hope Ward is fit..and CMONNN Darky recapture your crown!

[racers and royals]

The first round of the U/21 World Finals is due to begin tonight. Does anyone know if their'll be any updates?

I would appreciate any info including starting time, link to updates etc. Thought their would be a fair bit of interest in this event, as it should seperate the men from the boys. Ward was 5/1 last year to win, and he should probably be evan longer odds this year!! As there is a number of top riders in contention.

Hope Ward is fit..and CMONNN Darky recapture your crown!

Meeting starts at 6pm uk time for line up and updates.

 

http://live.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel2.htm

[dirt]

Meeting starts at 6pm uk time for line up and updates.

 

http://live.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel2.htm

Thanks alot for that! As their was no thread about the series, I wondered if I had the wrong date.

Didn't Artur Mroczka get eliminated in the semis. Bit of a joke if he did,, and then ends up winning it or even on the podium.

Edited July 17, 2010 by dirt

[racers and royals]

Thanks alot for that! As their was no thread about the series, I wondered if I had the wrong date.

Didn't Artur Mroczka get eliminated in the semis. Bit of a joke if he did,, and then ends up winning it or even on the podium.

Artur and Sperz are this rounds wild cards my top three prediction for this round is

1 m Janowski

2 m Vaculik

3 v Tarasienko(16yr old Russian sensation)

Edited July 17, 2010 by racers and royals

[Bavarian]

Artur and Sperz are this rounds wild cards my top three prediction for this round is

1 m Janowski

2 m Vaculik

3 v Tarasienko(16yr old Russian sensation)

 

Don't think Tarasenko will be THAT good in his first season, but better watch out for the other Russian in the finals, 19y/o Artem Laguta. He is on a run!

[racers and royals]

Don't think Tarasenko will be THAT good in his first season, but better watch out for the other Russian in the finals, 19y/o Artem Laguta. He is on a run!

You might be right but he did finish ahead of Artem in the semi-final.

[Bavarian]

You might be right but he did finish ahead of Artem in the semi-final.

I know!

[salty]

Thanks alot for that! As their was no thread about the series, I wondered if I had the wrong date.

Didn't Artur Mroczka get eliminated in the semis. Bit of a joke if he did,, and then ends up winning it or even on the podium.

To be fair I think they have taken into account the incident in the semi when Mroczka shut the throttle off after 3 laps of his final race. Given that there was a slot put aside for a nominated rider (as well as a local wild card) I suppose it makes sense to give him a go.

Even Neil Street had called for his inclusion. Ironically if Mroczka had kept it on for four laps then Ward would have missed out, though I guess he would have then recieved a Final spot.

[dirt]

Artur and Sperz are this rounds wild cards my top three prediction for this round is

1 m Janowski

2 m Vaculik

3 v Tarasienko(16yr old Russian sensation)

 

As Artur wont have any pressure, having already choked it badly, and been handed a free ride, he actually has an advantage over the rest, so.

 

my top 3: Ward , Mroczka , Janowski

 

Any idea how the series points are worked out? and what format each round is? ie how many heats and finals are there each night of the competition?

 

To be fair I think they have taken into account the incident in the semi when Mroczka shut the throttle off after 3 laps of his final race. Given that there was a slot put aside for a nominated rider (as well as a local wild card) I suppose it makes sense to give him a go.

Even Neil Street had called for his inclusion. Ironically if Mroczka had kept it on for four laps then Ward would have missed out, though I guess he would have then recieved a Final spot.

Thats called pressure, and is an example of choking under the pressure. Its ironic that now he has no pressure whatsoever, as he already spat his dummy and can ride with gay abandon knowing he already missed his chance.

 

I think that heat you refer to was before Wards last ride so Ward would have known he only needed a 3rd from his last ride to qualify. If he needed more he prob would have got them.

[racers and royals]

As Artur wont have any pressure, having already choked it badly, and been handed a free ride, he actually has an advantage over the rest, so.

 

my top 3: Ward , Mroczka , Janowski

 

Any idea how the series points are worked out? and what format each round is? ie how many heats and finals are there each night of the competition?

 

 

Thats called pressure, and is an example of choking under the pressure. Its ironic that now he has no pressure whatsoever, as he already spat his dummy and can ride with gay abandon knowing he already missed his chance.

 

I think that heat you refer to was before Wards last ride so Ward would have known he only needed a 3rd from his last ride to qualify. If he needed more he prob would have got them.

Not 100% sure but i would think 20 heats in all 3 rounds and totals added up from each round.

Just checked the FIM regs and it doesn`t give the meeting format however it does say that the ref is Jim Lawrence

Edited July 17, 2010 by racers and royals

[dirt]

Not 100% sure but i would think 20 heats in all 3 rounds and totals added up from each round.

sweet, thanks. Will have to wait and see. The way they run the GPs nowadays, anythings possible and nothing would surprise me.

[Bavarian]

 

Any idea how the series points are worked out? and what format each round is? ie how many heats and finals are there each night of the competition?

 

 

Thats called pressure, and is an example of choking under the pressure. Its ironic that now he has no pressure whatsoever, as he already spat his dummy and can ride with gay abandon knowing he already missed his chance.

 

I think that heat you refer to was before Wards last ride so Ward would have known he only needed a 3rd from his last ride to qualify. If he needed more he prob would have got them.

 

I believe they use the same points scoring system as in the senior GPs. This would make sense as the U21 meeting runs on the same system of 16 riders, 20 heast, two semis and a final. But it would certainly be nice to be told about before the meeting. Nobody seems to be sure on this.

 

About Artur Mrozcka at Landshut. I was there. In his last race he was in no danger of losing second place in his last ride. It was a genuine mistake on him miscounting the laps and shut down. However, the fact that he did needed at least one point from his last ride shows that he was anything but a certain qualifyer for this meeting. There were others much more superior (Andersson, Vaculik and Janowski)

 

Ward rode steady inhis first three rides, but struggled badly after the interval. He failed to score in his fourth ride and need at least one point from heat 20 (that was after Mroczka's last ride) to avoid a run-off with the Pole. And Ward was really struggling to get that point, as he was stone last from the gate and just managed to get passed the already qualified Kevin Wolbert on the second lap.

 

Mroczka really deserves to be given this wild card entry. He would have qualifyied on merit, if it wasn't for his black-out moment in his last race.

 

But I am still not sure if he has got a permanent wild card for all three finals, or just for the one meeting at Gdansk?

[salty]

As Artur wont have any pressure, having already choked it badly, and been handed a free ride, he actually has an advantage over the rest, so.

 

my top 3: Ward , Mroczka , Janowski

 

Any idea how the series points are worked out? and what format each round is? ie how many heats and finals are there each night of the competition?

 

 

Thats called pressure, and is an example of choking under the pressure. Its ironic that now he has no pressure whatsoever, as he already spat his dummy and can ride with gay abandon knowing he already missed his chance.

 

I think that heat you refer to was before Wards last ride so Ward would have known he only needed a 3rd from his last ride to qualify. If he needed more he prob would have got them.

 

Not saying it's right that Mroczka gets in as a wild card. But I would rather he got a slot than someone who hadn't bothered with the qualifiers. If it wasn't for the fact there were 2 wild card slots then Mroczka would have qualified as the 8th placed rider anyway.

As for Ward and his ability to score points at will - then Bavarian's post answers that pretty well.

 

Note to "Bavarian" - the way the Speedway Star reads this week suggests Mroczka is only confirmed for Gdansk. I quote "If Pirates, second string can produce a storming performance in Poland he may yet get to ride in Latvia on August 7 and at Pardubice in the third round on October 2."

[ladyluck]

Good luck to the British riders. Oh, there aren't any.

I can see Laguta winning this, although he'll have to keep an eye on the likes of Janowski, Mroczka and possibly Dudek, while Bogdanovs would be my "dark horse".

Edited July 17, 2010 by ladyluck

[Gaz]

Good luck to Rene Bach tonight

[Midnight_Lady]

Good luck to Kevin Wölbert

[Bavarian]

Good luck to the British riders. Oh, there aren't any.

I can see Laguta winning this, although he'll have to keep an eye on the likes of Janowski, Mroczka and possibly Dudek, while Bogdanovs would be my "dark horse".

 

The funny thing is, there are no Aussies either, Ward except. British promoters and fans seem to believe that any youngster from Oz is a potential future World Champion. But where are they? Stuck in the British Premier League!

 

I am not saying there are no talented riders from Aussie, there are some like Holder or Ward, but Australia is certainly not dominating the junior world speedway scene. Amazingly this year, Poland struggles, too! And so do Sweden and Denmark!

 

I would be pleased if Laguta wins it tonight, but watch out for Slovakia's Martin Vaculik. He used to be a Gdansk rider in the Eksta Liga, so he will know how to ride that track. He rode Landshut with a sholder injury, yet had no problems to finish on the rostrum.

 

Latvia's Bogdanovs could be a spoiler, and of course Andersson the Swede, who rides rather unspectacular but is very efficient. And nobody seems to fancy Croatia's Jurica Pavlic? Or Ward, the defending world champion!

 

Last but not least the Poles will have high hopes in tehir home country. Janowski should be a threat, just as the wild card rider Artur Mrozcka.

 

All in all, this Junior Grand Prix series promises some spectacular racing and unpredictable results, just as the senior GPs this year. Good thing!

[racers and royals]

Had rain in Gdansk,hoping to start at 6.30pm uk time.

[davidba]

If this is postponed will it mess up tomorrows fixtures in Poland?Daugvapils have 3 riders due at Gniezno tomorrow and most of the other ride for some Polish team.Early yet i know but would it be rescheduled for tomorrow?

[extractorfan]

If this is postponed will it mess up tomorrows fixtures in Poland?Daugvapils have 3 riders due at Gniezno tomorrow and most of the other ride for some Polish team.Early yet i know but would it be rescheduled for tomorrow?

Shouldnt worry according to google translation on gdansk website the rain is not raining!!!!