ladyluck Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 And what does "drogi" mean - as in "Drogi Bartku!"? I hear the commentators say that a lot. Drogi or drugi? Drogi means valuable, while drugi means second. As for Bartku, I have no idea. Perhaps you are mishearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Drogi Bartku = Dear Bartek (it's a name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbenny Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2010/07/15/bartlomiej-czekanski-bez-hamulcow-jezdza-w-polsce-baluja-w-m/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgmBwVfxp_rbLRtQYuZ1E0FR-rdAw Interesting article about Holder, Ward and Woffinden's party lifestyle in Poland ... (FYI - unlike their performances in the British leagues, all 3 of them have been utterly rubbish in the Polish Ekstraliga this yr - their current league averages, respectively: 26th, 52nd and 46th). This google translation above is rather rubbish too but you can get the general point. I found the bit about Woffinden's behaviour before/after the matches (quoted from Czestochowa fans' open letter in this article) the most interesting ... Showing such attitude I guess that he and Ward will rather finish in some rehab than anywhere high in SGP. I was just wondering where tai seems to find the time to do go partying like he does over in poland... i mean with the meetings generally finishing on sunday evening, then ya know not having to get up at two in the morning to catch his flight back to england to race at wolverhampton or any thing like that.....WHATS HIS SECRET ID LOVE TO KNOW, THEN MAYBE MY PERCEPTION OF TIME MIGHT ALLOW ME TO ENJOY MYSELF AS MUCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Poland's only world champion, to date, although that looks like changing this year. Big question is Gollob or Hampel? You really have to give Gollob a lot of credit. It isn't so long ago that he was being written off in some quarters. Yet in the last three seasons he has enjoyed a remarkable renaissance, winning in the most unexpected of places, such as Malilla, Copenhagen and Terenzano. He even made a decent fist of Cardiff this season. Gollob has also won something like eighteen GPs, while Britain has managed a combined total of four (to put this abject performance into its proper context, Tony Rickardsson once won six in a season). I accept that to win any open meeting is an achievement in itself but I find GP wins irrelevant - it's the title of World Champion they are going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 I accept that to win any open meeting is an achievement in itself but I find GP wins irrelevant - it's the title of World Champion they are going for. Fair enough, but Sir Stirling Moss was never a world champion while other lesser drivers have been. And in terms of speedway the dynamics have changed with the advent of the GPs. No one can know whether Gollob would've emulated Szczakiel under the old system? One night in Poland worked for Jerzy, why not for Gollob? He's won GPs at Wroclaw, Bydgoszcz and Torun. The world championship is important, of course, but to my mind so are GP wins. Winning a GP certainly counts for more than winning the Intercontinental Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Fair enough, but Sir Stirling Moss was never a world champion while other lesser drivers have been. And in terms of speedway the dynamics have changed with the advent of the GPs. No one can know whether Gollob would've emulated Szczakiel under the old system? One night in Poland worked for Jerzy, why not for Gollob? He's won GPs at Wroclaw, Bydgoszcz and Torun. The world championship is important, of course, but to my mind so are GP wins. Winning a GP certainly counts for more than winning the Intercontinental Final. I agree that with a World Final in Poland Gollob would likely have won one by now. Disagree though about the Intercontinental Final/GP - certainly more pressure in the Inter as you had to finish in the top positions to get to the World Final - no slip ups were possible. One or two poor GPs and you can still be World Champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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