gypilgrim Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 When this meeting was announced in the Winter I thought that it would be one of the highlights of the season. Events conspired to prevent my attendance, but OMG, reading the comments has made me feel like I've had a lucky escape and saved myself a fair few quid. Rob Godfrey has made clear his ambition to stage FIM meetings at Scunthorpe some day. Please make it happen ASAP, please, please please Mr. Godfrey ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I was actually interested in seeing this meeting but Im glad I didnt bother by reading some posts on here. It was simply terrible Steve. I've been going to speedway since 1958, and this now ranks as probably the worst meeting I've ever seen, even worse than the CL Pairs at Wimbledon in 2005, and that's saying something. Very wise choice to stop at home, just wish I'd done the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Because our sport is a closed shop!!! The golden handshake brigade rule!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 It was simply terrible Steve. I've been going to speedway since 1958, and this now ranks as probably the worst meeting I've ever seen, even worse than the CL Pairs at Wimbledon in 2005, and that's saying something. Horray! That's one thing I NEVER thought I'd hear you say. The other is: "these key rings have a life-time guarantee"...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Track bashing yet again, yawn. The meeting was not brilliant, yes but the lack of smooth running was more due to the FIM referee rather than the track grading. Firstly, as parsloes has said, why let the riders back into the pits if a race has been stopped due to a tapes exclusion? Well done to the Danes, they deserved their victory. Bach looked fantastic. If we had Tai I'm sure we would have been third today, possibly second, around rye I'm pretty sure he'd have gone unbeaten in the field we saw today, that's 15 points rather than the 0 which Newman accrued. Why Robert Mear wasn't called I have no idea, he may not have a team but he is racing on the grass regularly and knows Rye very well, I'm sure he'd have done a decent job. Even Marc Owen would be a better bet than Newman at Rye, no disrespect meant to Kyle of course. Bridger was the pick of the Brits, though a little too cocky considering a lot of the riders he beat were only PL standard and he was racing for the last placed nation. Josh deserved a lot more than he scored, whilst Haines let a lot of points slip and did his gating tart credentials no harm at all. Kyle Hughes was poor, such a shame for the lad, I await the Rye excuse #234.1.2 that his first bike blew up before his first race. That'll explain his performance at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIE-JA Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Track bashing yet again, yawn. The meeting was not brilliant, yes but the lack of smooth running was more due to the FIM referee rather than the track grading. Firstly, as parsloes has said, why let the riders back into the pits if a race has been stopped due to a tapes exclusion? Well done to the Danes, they deserved their victory. Bach looked fantastic. If we had Tai I'm sure we would have been third today, possibly second, around rye I'm pretty sure he'd have gone unbeaten in the field we saw today, that's 15 points rather than the 0 which Newman accrued. Why Robert Mear wasn't called I have no idea, he may not have a team but he is racing on the grass regularly and knows Rye very well, I'm sure he'd have done a decent job. Even Marc Owen would be a better bet than Newman at Rye, no disrespect meant to Kyle of course. Bridger was the pick of the Brits, though a little too cocky considering a lot of the riders he beat were only PL standard and he was racing for the last placed nation. Josh deserved a lot more than he scored, whilst Haines let a lot of points slip and did his gating tart credentials no harm at all. Kyle Hughes was poor, such a shame for the lad, I await the Rye excuse #234.1.2 that his first bike blew up before his first race. That'll explain his performance at least Rob Mear got injured at the British Masters Championship a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Rob Mear got injured at the British Masters Championship a few weeks ago. And Marc's on the injury list ATM isn't he. As is Brendan Johnson - seen hobbling around on Sunday on the ubiquitious crutches! As of course is the rider who deffo would've taken the unlucky Tai's place: Bren's predecessor as GB Under 18 champ, Jerran Hart.. The two Kyles were a selection mistake. Personally I believe that instead we should've gone with Jason Garrity and another Kyle, young master Howarth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusthepom Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 And Marc's on the injury list ATM isn't he. As is Brendan Johnson - seen hobbling around on Sunday on the ubiquitious crutches! As of course is the rider who deffo would've taken the unlucky Tai's place: Bren's predecessor as GB Under 18 champ, Jerran Hart.. The two Kyles were a selection mistake. Personally I believe that instead we should've gone with Jason Garrity and another Kyle, young master Howarth... im not sure what your sniffing mate but give it a rest please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young51 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 bad advert for British Speedway and i still stand by what i said wrong venue Totally with you on that one.The FIM gave Rye House the coveted meeting,but why? Sheffield would have been an ideal venue for this prestigious meeting in my opinion.It's reasonably central,has good facilities,and is one of the best racetracks in the country.Obviously, not as good as the slick gaters dustbowl at Hoddesdon.. Speedway shoots itself in the foot..again!Dear dear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Not a good meeting at all,tbh. I do not see any point in knocking any of the Team GB riders.Believe me,the effort was there. What was very plain to see was the gulf between our lads and the others.The Swedes,Danes and Poles have got the junior set up right.In all honesty,we Brits havent got a clue. As has been aluded to,its all to do with the 'Golden Handshake brigade'.Until the BSPA as collective get up off their backsides and put in place a full and proper structure for introducing youngsters,we dont stand a chance in the International arena for the forseeable future.Being realistic about it,we only had Bridger competing and mixing it all day. I know for a fact that both Neil Vatcher and Phil Morris sweated more than blood and tears yesterday.You only had to see the pain in their faces at the end.As were the riders,I might add.While I agree that had Tai been there,we might well have come 3rd or even 2nd.That in itself would only have served to mask over the cracks. Something I noticed in the pits.Poland had KK there,constantly helping the youngsters.Denmark had Kenneth Bjerre offering support,who did the Brits have? NOBODY.Chris Louis was there,but walked by with hands in his pockets,and never said a word.Surely a current Elite rider,not riding on the day could have been there with any advice at all? Anyone in any doubt about how far we have fallen behind the rest of the Speedway World in development terms,saw it for real yesterday. Wake up BSPA.Do something NOW,not tomorrow,NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Utter rubbish. i brought up 5 new comers to the sport and what a time wasting exercise that was. I seem to have brought home half the Rye House track in my hair. Wont be making that mistake again £120 is alot of money. Sorry im just telling it as it is. That was the worst meeting i have seen for a long long time. The ref holding the tapes to long and the time wasting once a rider had touched the tapes. We seem to have a 10 minute delay everytime so the ref could put his feet up! The Ref was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) Something I noticed in the pits.Poland had KK there,constantly helping the youngsters.Denmark had Kenneth Bjerre offering support,who did the Brits have? NOBODY.Chris Louis was there,but walked by with hands in his pockets,and never said a word.Surely a current Elite rider,not riding on the day could have been there with any advice at all? That's interesting to note, thanks Chris Louis NOT! Seems to me that on the whole it's take, take, take from most top boys, don't they ever dream of giving?? The meeting was not brilliant, yes but the lack of smooth running was more due to the FIM referee rather than the track grading You sure about that? I'm not usually one to moan about too much grading but that guy on the tractor was going round probably about 4 to 6 times with the blade, then 2 or 3 times with the grader and there were no ruts and no shale and it took 10- 15 mins each time! There was a guy from one of the teams came out and tried to find a little shale himself to rake, the actual track rakers were also constantly searching for a piece of shale or two to justify their job! Edited September 6, 2010 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLIGHTLY ROUND THE BEND Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I'm sure one of our older and wiser poster will be able to remember better than me but I seem to recall seeing pictures of some irate fans trying to water the track at a Wembley world final with a hosepipe some years ago due to the dust.Was it not Len and co that did the track there too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I'm sure one of our older and wiser poster will be able to remember better than me but I seem to recall seeing pictures of some irate fans trying to water the track at a Wembley world final with a hosepipe some years ago due to the dust.Was it not Len and co that did the track there too? Indeed. Was the 1975 World Final. And amazingly that was also on the same date as yesterday, September 5th.!!! 35 years older but still none the wiser!!! im not sure what your sniffing mate but give it a rest please Bizarro posting...: what do you mean..?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 And Marc's on the injury list ATM isn't he. As is Brendan Johnson - seen hobbling around on Sunday on the ubiquitious crutches! As of course is the rider who deffo would've taken the unlucky Tai's place: Bren's predecessor as GB Under 18 champ, Jerran Hart.. The two Kyles were a selection mistake. Personally I believe that instead we should've gone with Jason Garrity and another Kyle, young master Howarth... No, Marc is fit, rode for the Cobras over the Bank Holiday weekend. Would have done better than Newman, Garrity and Howarth for that matter too. The experience would have been fantastic for him as well. I'm sure, if fit then Jerran Hart would have been the man riding of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) Thanfully someone must've read the riot act to the Clerk of the Course and pits staff, as the progress of races much improved from heat 11 onwards and even more so from heat 15 to the end. As they could do it then, it begs the question why on earth did they allow that shocking situation with the first ten heats. Tapes exclusions of which there were FOUR in that first period should NOT lead to the other three riders going back to the pits for five minutes!! And efforts to keep down the dust which led to 15 minutes gaps for watering simply weren't working and IMHO were just delkaying the meeting with no overall result. I have a third of the shale from the third bend in my hair right now and I have hardly any hair!! Dust, delays, virtually no passing...: not exactly a great advert for Speedway and a shame as there was a really big crowd... Forgive me if I'm wrong but is it not the referee's responsibility to put the two minute warning on rather than the clerk of the course. Tape infringements and all four back when no one has fallen is wrecking the sport. Even NL riders now return to the pits for a spoonfull of fuel and a fan for the clutch. Had the ref immediately put on the two minute warning after each aborted race there would have been one less thing for the Rye knockers to shout about. 4 hrs is a disgrace but lump all the blame onto Len Silver is pretty stupid. By the way Len silver would like everyone to comb the dust out of their hair and return it in a first class enevlope as it is needed for our next 5 hr epic double header on saturday against newport. Still at least i can look forward to great Elite racing tonight from the exciting Lakeside track where the dirt is 6 inches deep with no dust to be found anywhere. Never a delay between races to be had there! Edited September 6, 2010 by westhamboy66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 No, Marc is fit, rode for the Cobras over the Bank Holiday weekend. Would have done better than Newman, Garrity and Howarth for that matter too. The experience would have been fantastic for him as well. I'm sure, if fit then Jerran Hart would have been the man riding of course. Yes -I noticed I was mistaken about Marc. As you say there's no doubt in my mind that Marc would've been the best replacement for Tai. For some reason he seems a bit frozen out by the powers that be, though... We never did to the bottom of how/why he was left out of the Under 21 qualifiers this year... And it is gutting that Jerran's injury meant he missed out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The~SAINT Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 why oh why does len persist with this type of track prep year after year despite all the howls of protest from the fans(aka customers)??? (was track prep/set up the same at hackney-can anyone confirm???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypilgrim Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Sheffield would have been an ideal venue for this prestigious meeting in my opinion.It's reasonably central,has good facilities,and is one of the best racetracks in the country.Obviously, not as good as the slick gaters dustbowl at Hoddesdon.. Speedway shoots itself in the foot..again!Dear dear.... Couldn't agree more about Sheffield. Until Scunthorpe completes development. Seriously, Sheffield hosted a World Cup round a few years ago, so must tick all the FIM boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 why oh why does len persist with this type of track prep year after year despite all the howls of protest from the fans(aka customers)??? (was track prep/set up the same at hackney-can anyone confirm???) when len was promoter at hackney the track was excellent. at rayleigh it's so long ago i can't remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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