willp Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 DUDLEY Heathens have wasted no time in snapping up hot prospect Micky Dyer who will make his debut on Friday. Dyer, 19, is from New South Wales and will replace James Sarjeant in the Heathens side for their trip to Weymouth - and he will make his home debut in the National League clash with King's Lynn at Wolverhampton next Tuesday, June 29. Manager Will Pottinger watched Dyer take his first laps on a British track at Stoke on Monday when he joined the Heathens squad for a practice session arranged by former Cradley favourites Mark Robinson and Anthony Boyd - and he was suitably impressed. Said Pottinger: "We have taken the opportunity to strengthen the team. Micky comes recommended from contacts in Australia and after seeing him practice for myself at Stoke on Monday, I'm sure we now have a team to push on and challenge for the play offs and silverware. "I hope our great supporters will show their backing to Micky as he gets to grip with British Speedway with our matches at Weymouth on Friday and against King's Lynn at Monmore Green on Tuesday. "Unfortunately including Micky comes at the expense of James Sarjeant which I must admit is far from ideal. "Dropping a young British lad goes against the principles of the National League but until the system is changed this type of change is always a possibility. "We still have talented British youngsters in our team including Richard Franklin, Ashley Morris and Tom Perry but we thank James for his efforts so far this season and we wish him all the best for the future. "We have held open his place at the Golden Hammer next month and I'm sure the fans will give him a great reception." Dyer joins Dudley on a six-point average which means Wolverhampton teenager Ashley Morris moves down to reserve to partner Tom Perry for the two vital meetings with Weymouth and King's Lynn. The new riding order is as follows - 1. Lee Smart, 2. Michael Dyer, 3. Richard Franklin, 4. Jake Anderson, 5. Jon Armstrong, 6. Ashley Morris, 7. Tom Perry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyHart Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 What system needs to be changed? You didn't have to drop a British rider as far as i'm aware? A shame for Sarjeant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) The National League is designed to prepare British riders for the Premier and this is what has happened here - it's got sarge ready and prepared for when his future PL ditches him for an Aussie. Joking apart, didn't I read Dyer had been flown in by the Brummies? With the Heathens currently being the Wolves & Birmingham feeder club, this move under the league rules is no surprise. The NL standard continues to grow and I think the solution for British riders needs to be re-esttbalishing a 2nd half league like what we had back between 1986 and 1992. It gave good racing and added 6 heats giving you a two and half hour show versus a spread out 100 minutes. Reward the clubs who participate with an extra point for their big team for team building and you'll find its magically affordable! Edited June 23, 2010 by SteveEvans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Sarjeant to Buxton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas7867 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 What an utter disgrace. I am fed up to the back teeth of Aussies in the National league. What is wrong with British Speedway? Dudley should hang their heads in shame. Sarjeant deserved some support and help. Not to be ditched. Malcolm Vasey forecast that the league would lose its way and this is a classic example of just how bad things have got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisle_comet Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 The National League is designed to prepare British riders for the Premier and this is what has happened here - it's got sarge ready and prepared for when his future PL ditches him for an Aussie. Joking apart, didn't I read Dyer had been flown in by the Brummies? With the Heathens currently being the Wolves & Birmingham feeder club, this move under the league rules is no surprise. The NL standard continues to grow and I think the solution for British riders needs to be re-esttbalishing a 2nd half league like what we had back between 1986 and 1992. It gave good racing and added 6 heats giving you a two and half hour show versus a spread out 100 minutes. Reward the clubs who participate with an extra point for their big team for team building and you'll find its magically affordable! Birmingham looking at aussies....what have thought that ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Owen Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 What an utter disgrace. I am fed up to the back teeth of Aussies in the National league. What is wrong with British Speedway? Dudley should hang their heads in shame. Sarjeant deserved some support and help. Not to be ditched. Malcolm Vasey forecast that the league would lose its way and this is a classic example of just how bad things have got. Couldn't agree with you more Lucas, this is a National Development league not an International League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 DUDLEY Heathens have wasted no time in snapping up hot prospect Micky Dyer ............. ........"Unfortunately including Micky comes at the expense of James Sarjeant which I must admit is far from ideal. "Dropping a young British lad goes against the principles of the National League but until the system is changed this type of change is always a possibility. I don't care how it's dressed up, it's ditching a young British rider and replacing him with a rider who is unlikely to ever pledge his allegiance to British speedway. Darned right it's a possibility - it's just been proved only too well by the Heathens. Not impressed one tiny bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Saint Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Joking apart, didn't I read Dyer had been flown in by the Brummies? With the Heathens currently being the Wolves & Birmingham feeder club, this move under the league rules is no surprise. The NL standard continues to grow and I think the solution for British riders needs to be re-esttbalishing a 2nd half league like what we had back between 1986 and 1992. It gave good racing and added 6 heats giving you a two and half hour show versus a spread out 100 minutes. Reward the clubs who participate with an extra point for their big team for team building and you'll find its magically affordable! What utter nonsense. How can teams possibly be penalised for not running a Second Half League side in another competition? The cost is almost too much for riders nowadays never mind where Clubs are meant to get money from. Are you suggesting that the Clubs pay for this? And the benefits will be for non-Brits who take the places in the NL. We just need to limit those who will not ultimately ride for GB in the National League and , of course, reduce the points limit. And at the same time enforce the use of British riders in the PL by capping the number of foreigners many of whom are at best mediocre. Malcolm Vasey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Im gutted for young Sarj who is a great kid who just hasnt had any luck this year, but i think the people having a go at the heathens management need to be realistic, they have fans and those fans want success. If the rules didnt allow aussies to race in this league then we would all be on a level playing field but thats not the case, we went to buxton and lost mainly because they had 2 young aussie kids banging the points in, we went to newport and got tonked - how many aussies in the newport team?. im afraid as the saying goes if you cant beat them then join them ! Im not saying the rules are right or wrong and thats not a debate i want to get into , and i feel desperatley sorry for young Sarj and really hope he gets fixed up soon but i think any criticism aimed at the heathens management is also out of order, they are just doing what they feel is best for the club and working within the rules that are set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 We just need to limit those who will not ultimately ride for GB in the National League and , of course, reduce the points limit. And at the same time enforce the use of British riders in the PL by capping the number of foreigners many of whom are at best mediocre. Malcolm Vasey Most of me is yet again angry with the attitude of many teams in the NL ... and the BSPA who will not learn until there are no exceptionally talentes young British riders coming through. Brits need to be exceptionally talented, non-Brits just need to show a bit of promise and the EL, PL - and now the NL - will give them a place. A little bit of me (sorry ) wants to say 'I told you so' to this youngster who left Scunthorpe - if he had stayed there I don't think that he would now be waiting for his third team in a season and a half of riding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient mariner Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Im gutted for young Sarj who is a great kid who just hasnt had any luck this year, but i think the people having a go at the heathens management need to be realistic, they have fans and those fans want success. If the rules didnt allow aussies to race in this league then we would all be on a level playing field but thats not the case, we went to buxton and lost mainly because they had 2 young aussie kids banging the points in, we went to newport and got tonked - how many aussies in the newport team?. im afraid as the saying goes if you cant beat them then join them ! Im not saying the rules are right or wrong and thats not a debate i want to get into , and i feel desperatley sorry for young Sarj and really hope he gets fixed up soon but i think any criticism aimed at the heathens management is also out of order, they are just doing what they feel is best for the club and working within the rules that are set. You are of course quite right, but it's just the weasel words that are used that are so annoying. Plus of course the 'rule(s)' in the first place; but I guess that I'm now in danger of becoming a 'stuck record' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'm angry .....so angry my love affair with speedway is waning.....Why not fill the bl***y leagues with Aussies, then perhaps most promoters will be happy. Why should we british fans pay for Aussies to fullfil their ambitions at the expense of our kids. I couldn't agree more Lucas, its an absolute disgrace. At least Sweden, Denmark Poland etc have leagues where our lads can get fixed up with team places.( their not allowed in the N/L ) Australia should do likewise and it wouldn't be so one sided.....mad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 ...I guess that I'm now in danger of becoming a 'stuck record' Join the club - you'll probably get shouted down, the same as I do... but sadly one of these days - in the not to distant future - we will be proved right when there is no-one of a high enough standard to ride for Team GB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhr Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) we should learn that this is now australian speedway just based in britain as a british NL rider trying tor Pl i have no chance as im ENGLISH, although to be fair promotors make it so attractive for foreigners with vans , bikes, and places to stay if a british rider wants to sign for any club and doesnt have a bike or van then its tuff but if a non brit does they just pop down to joe hughes and get all kitted up maybe speedway needs an enoch powell character in charge??? if a foreigner signs for a pl team and doesnt win any races for a season they will use them the following year but a brit has a few matches to prove hiself then they get the boot. Edited June 23, 2010 by bhr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 No doubt about it, British speedway is slowly slipping off the map, now we even have British riders being dropped in favour of Aussies in the National League, however Micky Dyer sounds more like a rejected Eastenders character imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 What a load of crap!, another young British rider makes way for an unknown Aussie. Lets hope James gets fixed up with another club very soon. And trying to blame the rules for sacking James, really?, Dudley have made a huge mistake in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Great news for Michael, a young lad from Orange, NSW, who's already shown in this year's NSW v QLD Series that he's a force to be reckoned with. I for one hope he kicks on from here; he's joined a great club with a proud tradition. Its a pity that some on here have already chosen to slag him off purely because of his Nationality, but that seems to be par for the course for the BSF. I understand he's a Birmingham asset; he should feel right at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Great news for Michael, a young lad from Orange, NSW, who's already shown in this year's NSW v QLD Series that he's a force to be reckoned with. I for one hope he kicks on from here; he's joined a great club with a proud tradition. Its a pity that some on here have already chosen to slag him off purely because of his Nationality, but that seems to be par for the course for the BSF. I think it more to the fact that a young brit has lost his position at a club, to a rider who is virtually unknown over here. I do hope Micky the best, but it was highly unfair that James got sacked at Dudley, when he has so much potential at a young age. Lets just hope this hasn't knocked his confidence and can end on a high note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Kev Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Good Luck to Michael Dyer at Dudley, his trip to the UK was funded by the Brummies and I think hes an asset too. Really do feel for James and I hope he gets fixed up with a club soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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