Plymouth V Rye Frid 25th June

[waco]

Cobras make the long journey to the west country without NO 1 Jamie Smith.. ,Tod Kurtz guests ...David Mason is also doubtfull if he does not make it R/R will operate..Marc Owen returns at no 4...With good weather forcast an excellent meeting is anticipated with a close result..

Edited June 23, 2010 by waco

[iand]

Hope to see young Ben scoring alot of points from reserve.

[waco]

Hope to see young Ben scoring alot of points from reserve.

Hope to see all the COBRAS score plenty of points.... especially the league points..Good luck tonight wish i could be there...

[Gordon Owen]

Would like to say well done to Plymouth, whole team rode really well and earned their win. Was some absolutely top class racing and certainly see why you get big crowds.

This was our first visit to Plymouth and would like to thank all those who came over and shook Marcs hand and congratulating him on his performance. This goes a long way to encouraging young riders. Marc hopes to be back if you ever have any individuals meetings.

 

Gordon

[Glenn]

I recall seeing another 15 year old at Sittingbourne some years ago and

saying then that he couls have a serious future in British and world Speedway but made reservations about certain things in his attitide and future guidence - even then.

 

That was Lewis Bridger - Marc Owen appears to be a completely different person

and providing he is given sound guidence he has the whole speedway world ahead of him.

 

Talent on a bike is one thing but what goes on between the ears will always be

pivotal to how a rider progresses - and money of course !

[waco]

A very good meeting according to reports .well done to the devils i had thought it would have been a tighter result.Another excellent showing from Marc Owen..The rest of the team reportedly rode hard for their points ,, in which individual scores perhaps did not reflect that effort..

[ancient mariner]

A very good meeting according to reports .well done to the devils i had thought it would have been a tighter result.Another excellent showing from Marc Owen..The rest of the team reportedly rode hard for their points ,, in which individual scores perhaps did not reflect that effort..

 

Yes indeed it was a very good meeting. Marc Owen is a remarkable young talent. Lets hope his family can keep him well advised and away from the temptations and stupidity that fame, fortune and an over inflated impression of ones own worth so often brings - mentioning no names here of course.

 

Before the meeting I would have taken any win by the Devils, including by 1 point, so 50-40 was as pleasing as it was unexpected. The track was recently 'bladed' and is now as flat as a billiard table. The past few meetings have seen a lot of FTG as a result and we were worried that this might be end of the good racing that we usually see at the SBA. But now the track seems to be sorting itself out and we saw a lot of passing last night both inside and out. Thanks to both teams for a highly entertaining meeting.

Edited June 26, 2010 by ancient mariner

[gaptooth]

don`t think there are any worries about young mr owen going down the wrong path, he and his family are some of the most genuine people i`ve met.

very well done to marc last night, he is surely in for glittering career in the sport.

please get in contact with gordon with any offers of help with bananas and deisel

Edited June 26, 2010 by pitstop

[on the knee]

Yes indeed it was a very good meeting. Marc Owen is a remarkable young talent. Lets hope his family can keep him well advised and away from the temptations and stupidity that fame, fortune and an over inflated impression of ones worth so often brings - mentioning no names here of course.

 

Before the meeting I would have taken any win by the Devils, including by 1 point, so 50-40 was as pleasing as it was unexpected. The track was recently 'bladed' and is as flat as a billiard table. The past few meetings have seen a lot of FTG as a result and we were worried that this might be end end of the good racing that we usually see at the SBA. But now the track seems to be sorting itself out and we saw a lot of passing last night both inside and out. Thanks to both teams for a highly entertaining meeting.

The track is not sorting its self out,its down 2 alot of hard work from Nigel Prynne & Ashley Taylor.They work with very very basic tools & very poor material so credit where credits do .

[Shadders]

Fantastic score from Marc Owen, disappointing score from Kyle Hughes... What on earth has happened to Lee Smethills?

[ancient mariner]

Fantastic score from Marc Owen, disappointing score from Kyle Hughes... What on earth has happened to Lee Smethills?

 

No idea Shadders, but if you DO find out, please be sure to let us lot down at the SBA know.

 

Kyle would have scored more but was distracted from his racing in his last two heats 13 and 15, also not helped by poor starts in both these heats. As I stated earlier, the track is now totally different to how it was last time Kyle rode it.

Edited June 26, 2010 by ancient mariner

[torpointfanatic22]

Kyle was very unfortunate in heat 13 as there should have been a re-run in my opinion as Seemond definitely jumped the start although Kyle was off the graveyard that is gate 4 anyway! Likewise in heat 15 he was off gate 4 again but actually got 2nd on the line although the ref gave it the other way. Those 2 heats were the deciding factors imo and both had dodgy refereeing decisions that could and maybe should have gone the other way!!

[Roger MARTIN]

How do you make that out Torpointfanatic, in heat 13 some you win some you lose, you dont get instant replay, its not the first time its happened and it wont be the last, the ref did not think it was a jump start, what you think about it dont matter,who says he would have won heat 13 anyway, the way he was riding i dont think he would have, and you say both heats were deciding factors, even if the ref gave Kyle second place in heat 15 it would not have made any difference,i suppose you did not see his two finger gesture did you after heat 15 to the crowd, the team had some good luck for a change, dont knock it, but thats what you do, you never praise the team when they win, only have a go when they lose, same old story, i agree about Marc Owen great talent one of the best i have seen at the sba, showed Kyle the way to win races around the sba, not just a great rider for his age but also has a very good style.

Edited June 27, 2010 by Roger MARTIN

[Ben91]

How do you make that out Torpointfanatic, in heat 13 some you win some you lose, you dont get instant replay, its not the first time its happened and it wont be the last, the ref did not think it was a jump start, what you think about it dont matter, and you say both heats were deciding factors, even if the ref gave Kyle second place in heat 15 it would not have made any difference, the team had some good luck for a change, dont knock it, but thats what you do, you never praise the team when they win, only have a go when they lose, same old story.

 

Torpoint is allowed a view on what happened in the meeting. Some people might think whatyouve said 'don't matter' but there's no need for such a blunt reply. Nothing wrong with stating if we had a bit of luck things could have been different.

[scribbler]

Torpoint is allowed a view on what happened in the meeting. Some people might think whatyouve said 'don't matter' but there's no need for such a blunt reply. Nothing wrong with stating if we had a bit of luck things could have been different.

 

I think that their differences in opinions are that one is a speedway supporter and a speedway team supporter...

[Roger MARTIN]

Its not all about luck, ita all about what the man or women in charge says, in heat 13 he said the start was ok, end of matter,anyway it had nothing to do with Kyle stopping after getting out of shape going into bend one, then throwing his arms up thinking the ref would bring it back because of his bad start, in heat 15 in my opinion and everyone around me did think Kyle got second on the line, but the man in charge said he did not, where is the luck in that, i have seen loads of races at the sba where in my opinion riders have jumped the start, and riders have got up on the line, for the home team and for the away team, but the ref said different, but thats just my opinion,you just get on with it, if you were their RocketBen whats your opinion,Rye House were never infront, and in my opinion the Devils deserve the win, if you want to stick up for Torpointfanatic then thats ok with me, but if i think anyone is talking a load of crap in my opinion i will say so, wheather you or anyone likes it or not.

[Ben91]

Its not all about luck, ita all about what the man or women in charge says, in heat 13 he said the start was ok, end of matter,anyway it had nothing to do with Kyle stopping after getting out of shape going into bend one, then throwing his arms up thinking the ref would bring it back because of his bad start, in heat 15 in my opinion and everyone around me did think Kyle got second on the line, but the man in charge said he did not, where is the luck in that, i have seen loads of races at the sba where in my opinion riders have jumped the start, and riders have got up on the line, for the home team and for the away team, but the ref said different, but thats just my opinion,you just get on with it, if you were their RocketBen whats your opinion,Rye House were never infront, and in my opinion the Devils deserve the win, if you want to stick up for Torpointfanatic then thats ok with me, but if i think anyone is talking a load of crap in my opinion i will say so, wheather you or anyone likes it or not.

 

It's not sticking up for Torpoint's opinion, but more the way he was shot down. Sometimes things get heated, however the way you type your replies on this and other forums can sometimes be the difference between an argument and a debate. At the end of the day, speedway is speedway, the referee's decision is final, if you don't agree with someone's view on the forum it doesn't neccesitate a blunt reply straight away.

[ancient mariner]

I think that their differences in opinions are that one is a speedway supporter and a speedway team supporter...

 

LMAO

[torpointfanatic22]

Scribbler, Ben thank you for your support but I expected such comments from this blinkered supporter.

 

I type things as I see them. If the home or away team get luck, rub of the green or whatever then I will say so. As stated on this forum I have no problem with Plymouth losing, I just want to see good, honest speedway, no matter what the result. On the night, Plymouth deserved to win, I dont doubt that, my point was merely that had those refereeing decisions gone the other way, which as you say sometimes they do, then Rye could have got a point from the match. I was answering a comment raised by Shadders in the first place explaining why Kyle didnt score as many as he had anticipated. Yet you as always jump straight in and have a go!

 

I have seen many posts from you on this and other forums and you change your opinion as often as I turn my lounge light on, so I take absolutely no notice of anything you say on here, so there will certainly be no offence taken!!

 

You say all I do is moan about when we lose and never praise the team, I think you need to re-read my posts over the past 2 years as you will be proved wrong!

 

My opinion on the current situation at Plymouth speedway unfortunately means i find it hard to make out positives sometimes, to be honest I think the club needs a total overhaul and the 'click' needs to be removed before the club can progress. Yet again though I dare say you will shoot be down as im being negative towards the Devils, however I think forward and the bigger picture, and think back to all of these broken promises that Mr Bowden has given the fans, and his reluctance to get rid of the old and use younger developing riders, which is what Rye House brought down to the SBA and gave it a ruddy good go, for which I take my hat off to them and their promotion. Unlike certain riders wearing the Devils colours that merely poodle around at the back if they miss the gate!

 

But then being a 'good' friend of Mr Bowden I'm sure you are right and we are all totally wrong!

[Roger MARTIN]

Hope to see you down at the sba on friday Torpointfanatic, then you can say all this to my face, has i said before you talk a load of crap, i think if you look on the Devils site you will see im no blinkered, far from it, i have made the decision to back the team at Plymouth, thats my decision, its that or not go, and when i go to the meetings on fridays i talk to all the riders home and away, i dont agree with a lot of the things that go on at the club, but thats just my opinion, and one of my favorite riders do not ride for the Devils, but he will be their on friday and i will have a chat to him, Mike Bowden did make promises he did not keep but instead of moaning all the time about it try supporting the team, if not go and support someone else if your only going to say that teams could have won with a bit of luck when they come down, i know you like Kyle, i do to, but dont say he had bad luck when you are the only one to think he did, you are not the one to make decisions in a speedway meeting, you only have your opinion, that do not meen its a fact, just an opinion, i think Marc Owen was the best rider in the meeting, but thats just my opinion, your right i do know Mike Bowden but that has not stopped me from telling him to his face what i think, why dont you try that instead you hide behind this forum, i have a word for people like you gutless.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Roger MARTIN