scribbler Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 get real we are now a league in our own right drop the stupid development name.any way keep your hands off the devils team find yourselfs a pole or cheqe or swede wait till the season is over before steeling our riders .you can have them guest but do not pinch them i pay good money to watch my team. Perhaps the reason that Plymouth are doing less well than they have previously is that young potential riders are told that they cannot double up, and then, perhaps, decode not to ride for Plymouth. I think that Plymouth is the only team that does this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Questions; Why cant Australia run their own leagues?.......They have a big enough country.......I know the most lightly reply will be- because of travel distance, in which case they could pick say an area around one part of Australia for riders to settle( riders come all the way to Britain )..... I wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Australia run during our winter and young Brits from over here are more than happy to go over there and race and ride in their national championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Australia run during our winter and young Brits from over here are more than happy to go over there and race and ride in their national championships. As individuals... not taking team places... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 And the Brits who ride in the event are taking the place of young Aussies... or are you telling me that the Aussies don't have enough riders to fill their lineups so throw Brits in instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowasthatberntpersson Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Its exactly the same scenerio. I can guarantee you there were peed off young Aussies who didn't get into there own State titles last year whilst some touring Brits did (Josh Auty won the Queensland Championship) Yet for the quality of competition it was good for the sport. As for league racing in Australia, its been tried, tracks are just too spread out even when it is limited to a single State, there is no money in grass roots racing in Australia, organisers find it very difficult to break even. Having said that there is a competetive New South Wales v Queensland Series, which this year has been run over weekends with meetings on consecutive nights to justify the travelling expense. There have been six so far with two this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I say let's be more relaxed about this. The relationship of Anzac riders to British Speedway has always bveen different to "foreign" riders. Moore, Briggs, Mauger, Airey - for example - representing GB in the WTC... I can't see what kind of a major problem there is with one or sometimes two Aussies and/or Kiwis appearing for an NL club side.. Is this really holding back the development of British younsters..? Not at all IMHO... What holds back British Speedway is the crazy attitude of PL clubs in particular but also EL ones, in favouring any sort of foreign (often Polish...) riders over Brits... I can't think that the appearance of very young Anzacs (and in the cases discussed, they are VERY young...) in the NL is in any way significant enough to warrant being a subject described as controversial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 May I ask a straightforward question, and I'd appreciate it if you answer the question without considering other side topics.. Do you want the Premier League to be: a ) full of foreign riders over British riders, or b ) would you prefer British riders to be given the chance? Pick a or b, no 'but's please. b what i dont agree with is premier teams taking riders off natinal teams midd season.they must move up to progress.premire teams if they could use any national league rider for guest so they can still cary on riding for there national team also.then be singned full for the start of the next season or will the premire teams then do the usual and fill up with poles swedes danes ect leaving the young britts to go back to national league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 We are not asking for or expecting any sympathy. It's called the price of success Anyhow dont worry about us we will be OK. You and the club are doing a great job keep it up.To much win at all costs with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 If these youngsters use their British heritage to ride in the NL then perhaps the BSPA should use it to insist that they ride for Britain and not the country where they were born... (just turning the arguement around...) How many young riders would come over using their patriality to ride here if it was turned back on them and they had to ride as Brits if they got up to the required standard... don't you think you would then argue these kids from overseas are now taking our team GB places. Buxton are great, they give a kid a chance when they improve they let them go onto bigger things, then they get another one and give them a chance. If all National League teams worked like this the Premier league would be full of British riders. At the speed Buxton moves riders on they're wouldn't be enough aussie riders to fill all the empty spots. Kiwis we've only got 88 riders in the whole country, 8yrs old to 71, we can barely get a field of 16 good riders together, and yet you see us as a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyy Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Congratulations should be passed to Buxton, not only for putting a good side together but also encouraging the riders to try the next level up. If only we had a few more Buxton's perhaps the sad field for yesterdays British Final will become a sad memory and we can see young Brits going for it in the not to distant future. All power to Buxton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 now it looks Buxtons good side will disappear into the premier league.if they are at Rye House a week tomorrow they will be short of Cook Morris and Wright all stolen by the premire teams.a guest for Cook r]r for wright and some three point wobbler fot Morris aint going to do their league chances any good but does any body care no only the lett down Buxton fans who travel down to Rye to support ther team.makes me glad we have the older riders in our team. no one will want to steal them and ruin our already poor season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 now it looks Buxtons good side will disappear into the premier league.if they are at Rye House a week tomorrow they will be short of Cook Morris and Wright all stolen by the premire teams.a guest for Cook r]r for wright and some three point wobbler fot Morris aint going to do their league chances any good but does any body care no only the lett down Buxton fans who travel down to Rye to support ther team.makes me glad we have the older riders in our team. no one will want to steal them and ruin our already poor season. Dont worry about us we will be fine. Plenty of teams lose riders or aren't able to field their first choice team at all their fixtures. We don't even know what day we are riding at Rye House yet as it depends on the football so no point worrying about something that might not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squall Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 What's this I hear that if Cook, Morris and Wright are all missing, we can't have 2 guests? You can in the PL and EL but not the NL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) What's this I hear that if Cook, Morris and Wright are all missing, we can't have 2 guests? You can in the PL and EL but not the NL? Whatever is stacked against them,Buxton still seem to come up with the goods.Today is a perfect exanple The club is a real credit to speedway,I hope this will be recognized 1 day,they deserve ever success. Edited June 20, 2010 by screm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcote Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Things shouldn't be too bad for Buxton, ok the loss of Charles is a blow. Between now and the 6th August though Buxton only have 4 scheduled meetings. By the 6th of August, weather permitting and barring injury Nick will have ridden his 11th meeting for Glasgow and will be promptly 'sacked' in order to preserve his 3 point average for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinnessguzzler Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 May I ask a straightforward question, and I'd appreciate it if you answer the question without considering other side topics.. Do you want the Premier League to be: a ) full of foreign riders over British riders, or b ) would you prefer British riders to be given the chance? Pick a or b, no 'but's please. If you are asking a question such as that, which I add will make the sport boring then I say A! (HERE COMES MY REASON) I feel without "foreign riders" (as you put it!) there is no speedway. The racing is exciting and refreshing it's nice to have variety and without it I wouldnt go and watch.. its that simple really. Yes I think young british riders are great too... I feel it is rather unfair to knock the "foreign riders" just because they have natural talent which some do not. I pay good money to watch Buxton and feel rather annoyed that disrespectful people who have power take matters into their own hands to dis-arm the Buxton Team.. I add they did very well the other night against Cobras, very impressed that they were only 7 points down, what with not a full team! I enjoyed it very much they are great to watch with so much heart and soul! Go Robert Branford and Nick Morris!! ) You lads keep up the good work your future is bright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 If you are asking a question such as that, which I add will make the sport boring then I say A! (HERE COMES MY REASON) I feel without "foreign riders" (as you put it!) there is no speedway. The racing is exciting and refreshing it's nice to have variety and without it I wouldnt go and watch.. its that simple really. Yes I think young british riders are great too... I feel it is rather unfair to knock the "foreign riders" just because they have natural talent which some do not. I pay good money to watch Buxton and feel rather annoyed that disrespectful people who have power take matters into their own hands to dis-arm the Buxton Team.. I add they did very well the other night against Cobras, very impressed that they were only 7 points down, what with not a full team! I enjoyed it very much they are great to watch with so much heart and soul! Go Robert Branford and Nick Morris!! ) You lads keep up the good work your future is bright! Firstly, I was not directing this question at you, or perhaps you would have understood the context in which it was asked. Secondly, I am not against "foreign riders". I am against foreign riders coming over on too low averages. If a foreign rider comes over, improves and shows himself to be an exciting rider, I have no problem. I don't particularly like it when a foreign rider comes over, doesn't do a marvellous job and remains in the reserve berth for years to come, or when a rider comes over on a low average slotting straight into reserve berths. To be frank I have no idea to what you are referring, not following Buxton's fortunes/misfortunes, when you say you are rather annoyed that disrespectful people who have power take matters into their own hands to dis-arm the Buxton team. The point I was making in my original post was that surely you cant be against your riders being offered a PL spot/races in the PL? They dont want to be in the NL for ever, the National League is, essentially, supposed to be a development league, and not only does racing PL give them better experience but its building blocks for a better career. If a young British rider wanted to be in the NL all his career, I would think he perhaps lacked ambition to try and make it further in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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