HenryW Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Bit of a wake-up call for Darcy. Yeah, it's a bit of a shock seeing him miss out, but the kid IS still very young, so can be excused the odd blip. Let's not forget that in 2008, the year of his second U21 title win, and the year before being given a wild card to the SGP, Emil also finished 1 place outside the qualifiers in the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Indeed. But I get the impression that set backs like this will just make him dig deeper and try harder. The lad is certainly talented. Yeah, it's a bit of a shock seeing him miss out, but the kid IS still very young, so can be excused the odd blip. Let's not forget that in 2008, the year of his second U21 title win, and the year before being given a wild card to the SGP, Emil also finished 1 place outside the qualifiers in the first round No doubt about it; I'm sure Darcy will take this all on board and come out not just a better rider but a stronger person for the setback. Let's face it, he's been on a near-vertical learning curve in the past season-and-a-half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 Don't forget Cory 'Crash through or crash' Gathercole!! Well done to Troy also - good result for Oz. Bit of a wake-up call for Darcy. I mean this in the nicest way but I couldn't care less about Cory and Troy getting through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolgin Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) My ratings for today Balakowo 1 Grzegorz Walasek (Polska) 3423 2 Grigorij Łaguta (Rosja) 3234 3 Roman Povazhny (Rosja) 2893 4 Artiom Łaguta (Rosja) 2885 5 Tomasz Jędrzejak (Polska) 2858 6 Denis Gizatullin (Rosja) 2755 7 Andrij Karpow (Ukraina) 2520 8 Filip Sitera (Czechy) 2258 9 Tobias Busch (Niemcy) 2209 -------------------------------------------- 10 Andriej Kudriaszow (Rosja) 2123 11 Wiaczesław Gieruckij (Łotwa) 2123 12 Kirył Cukanow (Ukraina) 2113 13 Władimir Dubinin (Ukraina) 2067 14 Jan Jaros (Czechy) 2027 15 Jewgienij Karawackij (Łotwa) 1855 16 Denis Nosow (Rosja) 1844 R1. Władimir Borodulin (Rosja) 1923 Miszkolc 1 Janusz Kolodziej POL 4010 2 Adrian Miedzinski POL 3671 3 Troy Batchelor AVS 3260 4 Magnus Zetterström ŠVE 3165 5 Daniel Nermark ŠVE 3094 6 Darcy Ward AVS 3042 7 Matej Ferjan MAD 2719 8 Mads Korneliussen DAN 2716 9 Lukáš Dryml ČEŠ 2561 ------------------------------------ 10 Morten Risager DAN 2454 11 Aleš Dryml ČEŠ 2420 12 Aleksander Čonda SLO 2067 13 József Tabaka MAD 2048 14 Matic Voldrih SLO 1912 15 Tomas Suchanek ČEŠ 1907 16 Samo Kukovica SLO 1869 17 Norbert Magosi MAD 1994 Fjelsted 1 Frederik Lindgren (Szwecja) - ( 3928 2 Jonas Davidsson (Szwecja) - ( 3327 3 Niels Kristian Iversen (Dania) - ( 3289 4 Krzysztof Kasprzak (Polska) - ( 3253 5 Leon Madsen (Dania) - ( 3090 6 Ryan Fisher (USA) - ( 2970 7 Nicolai Klindt (Dania) - ( 2930 8 Tai Woffinden (Wielka Brytania) - ( 2919 9 Edward Kennett (Wielka Brytania) - ( 2857 -------------------------------------------- 10 Renat Gafurow (Rosja) - ( 2811 11 Thomas Jonasson (Szwecja) - ( 2606 12 Kauko Nieminen (Finlandia) - ( 2571 13 Claus Vissing (Dania) - ( 2407 14 Tobias Kroner (Niemcy) - ( 2355 15 Kyle Legault (Kanada) - ( 2212 16 Rune Sola (Norwegia) - ( 2142 R1. Michael Jepsen Jensen (Dania) - ( 2792 R2. Johannes Kikkenborg (Dania) - ( 1855 Gorican 1 Chris Harris (Wielka Brytania) - ( 3525 2 Rafał Dobrucki (Polska) - ( 3303 3 Antonio Lindbaeck (Szwecja) - ( 3302 4 Matej Zagar (Słowenia) - ( 3263 5 Jurica Pavlic (Chorwacja) - ( 3136 6 Tomasz Gapiński (Polska) - ( 3121 7 David Ruud (Szwecja) - ( 2932 8 Patrick Hougaard (Dania) - ( 2929 9 Kenni Larsen (Dania) - ( 2848 -------------------------------------------- 10 Kevin Woelbert (Niemcy) - ( 2609 11 Matej Kus (Czechy) - ( 2477 12 Martin Malek (Czechy) - ( 2234 13 Josef Franc (Czechy) - ( 2215 14 Ales Kraljic (Słowenia) - ( 2081 15 Matija Duh (Słowenia) - ( 1966 16 Renato Cvetko (Chorwacja) - ( 1607 R1. Aljosa Remih (Słowenia) - ( 1884 Terenzano 1 Lee Richardson (Gran Bretagna) 3501 2 Martin Vaculik (Slovacchia) 3278 3 Simon Stead (Gran Bretagna) 3212 4 Grzegorz Zengota (Polonia) 2966 5 Rory Schlein (Australia) 2881 6 Martin Smolinski (Germania) 2810 7 Cory Gathercole (Australia) 2695 8 Christian Hefenbrock (Germania) 2476 9 Manuel Hauzinger (Austria) 2400 -------------------------------------------- 10 Emiliano Sanchez (Argentina) 2251 11 Guglielmo Franchetti (Italia) 2065 12 Lucas Allende (Argentina) 1997 13 Nicolas Covatti (Argentina) 1987 14 Marco Gregnanin (Italia) 1956 15 Mattia Cavicchioli (Italia) 1693 16 Theo di Palma (Francia) 1510 R1 Andrea Baroni (Italia) 1556 R2 Jonata Seren (Italia) 1641 38 from 45 to according with rating 4 from 5 which were 9th by rating (last place to pass) didnt pass to semifinal. And rest 3 didnt pass from another places, but not high then 6th. Edited June 13, 2010 by dolgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 38 from 45 to according with rating Good predictions via your Ratings , Tell me do you also you them to have a Punt/Bet ?? Whats all this about Madsen (allegedly) tampering with his Silencer @ Fjelsted ? If found out surely should be excluded from the Meeting ? Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 This is the 3rd time i've tried to reply to this, but nothing happened. cant be bothered to keep typing it out but Madsen was found to be CHEATING, but amazingly <and against the wishes of the ref> he was allowed to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 This is the 3rd time i've tried to reply to this, but nothing happened. cant be bothered to keep typing it out but Madsen was found to be CHEATING, but amazingly <and against the wishes of the ref> he was allowed to ride. Given the meeting was in Denmark, I'm guessing the machine examiner was Danish, and the problem was picked up in the pre-meeting scrutineering, I'm guessing as well that he was told that it didn't conform to the rules and was told to change it. In theory it should of been bought up at the Jury meeting as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 He didn't ride in the practice, and when he started his bikes up before the meeting the other riders knew something was up. His bike made a loud noise, there's didn't. They tried to take if off, but the ref <Jim Lawrence> got there in time. He was adamant that he should be thrown out, but the jury <of three> let him ride. This was premeditated CHEATING, he had split the exhaust, took something out <i assume the baffle> and made it look perfect. We saw his father talking to King Ole, we can only assume that Ole had something to do with it, as every rider we spoke to was convinced he should be thrown out <even the other Danes>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 He didn't ride in the practice, and when he started his bikes up before the meeting the other riders knew something was up. His bike made a loud noise, there's didn't. They tried to take if off, but the ref <Jim Lawrence> got there in time. He was adamant that he should be thrown out, but the jury <of three> let him ride. This was premeditated CHEATING, he had split the exhaust, took something out <i assume the baffle> and made it look perfect. We saw his father talking to King Ole, we can only assume that Ole had something to do with it, as every rider we spoke to was convinced he should be thrown out <even the other Danes>. 2 questions if you don't mind Spanner47 ? Do you know if his bike had been through the pre-meeting scrutineering (rather than the practise scrutineering), and do you know who were on the Jury ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) 2 questions if you don't mind Spanner47 ? Do you know if his bike had been through the pre-meeting scrutineering (rather than the practise scrutineering), and do you know who were on the Jury ? Sort of answered my own questions by looking at Suplemenray regs Fjelsted which suggests that the Jury should be Ila Teromma (president), Jorgen Jensen from the DMU, and Jim Lawrence. It also states that any protests regarding the eligibility of any competitor or machine must be made before the commencement of official practise - that would be a little difficult if he didn't attend practise wouldn't it !! Edited June 13, 2010 by rusky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 He didn't ride in the practice, and when he started his bikes up before the meeting the other riders knew something was up. His bike made a loud noise, there's didn't. They tried to take if off, but the ref <Jim Lawrence> got there in time. He was adamant that he should be thrown out, but the jury <of three> let him ride. This was premeditated CHEATING, he had split the exhaust, took something out <i assume the baffle> and made it look perfect. We saw his father talking to King Ole, we can only assume that Ole had something to do with it, as every rider we spoke to was convinced he should be thrown out <even the other Danes>. It would appear that anything goes this season in speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Surely if he was cheating he should be banned form international speedway for a while (12 months?) If he has taken something out of the silencer then it's out and out cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Usual Speedway STUPID situation , The FIM insist that all the Qualifiers are run using the new Silencers , But if you qualify for the 2011 GP Series at present you don`t have to use them !!! Takes me back to the Overseas Final 1996 , when the FIM insisted all the Riders used the Solid Block Tyres when at the same time all the Guys in the GP? Series insisted they would`nt be using them !! I for one though cannot see how Madsen cannot be brought beofre a Jury to "try" to condone his Actions ,and face some action If he was found altering the Sealed Silencer in a SCB/BSPA Meeting the regs state .. " Take note that should any Rider present a Bike with an illegal Silencer (ie it has been modified in any way, then the Rider will be excluded from that Meeting, ... we have the Rules correct even though we don`t use the Silencers yet !!! Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On the German web site speedway-forum.de it claims Madsen was fined 2100 euros for the tampering of the exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 On the German web site speedway-forum.de it claims Madsen was fined 2100 euros for the tampering of the exhaust. But he has still been allowed to keep his place in the next round? What a crock of the proverbial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 I've just been puzzled myself as to why there was apparently no interest in these qualifiers whilst looking in the SGP section. Then as i was logging out i had an thought to check in the 'international' section of the forums. Sure enough, once again, annoyingly a 100% SGP topic has been started in the international section rather than the SGP section. Regarding earlier pleas for information as to the line-ups and results (sorry been out all night, was a good one lol), I'll take the opportunity here to link to an excellent source for line-ups and results with all the subsequent quality links to the SGP itself past, present and future Wikipedia 2011 Speedway Grand Prix Qualification Apologies i wasn't around earlier to supply that link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 But he has still been allowed to keep his place in the next round? What a crock of the proverbial. Sounds like he did`nt use it in the Meeting , But if the Meeting had been in Poland or elsewhere other than DK , You can bet your bottom Dollar / Danish $$ Whatever ........ he`d be banned from the Meeting Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Sounds like he did`nt use it in the Meeting , But if the Meeting had been in Poland or elsewhere other than DK , You can bet your bottom Dollar / Danish $$ Whatever ........ he`d be banned from the Meeting Lucky How could he expect that no-one would notice? He must be a complete numpty to think other riders would not notice that his bike was louder. His qualification should be cancelled and every one else moved up a place if this is all true. He may have been prevented from using the doctored silencer in the meeting but the intent seems pretty clear. Blatant cheating if this is all true, absolutely disgraceful behaviour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 The FIM changed their stuff a bit for this season and no longer sends out the list's of riders by email like last year. Instead they are published on the FIM site where all the other websites then take them. So look harder, they are under news or similar, dont remember where. OK I did a little more poking about the FIM site and found all the line-up stuff in Official Documents/Press Releases section. Silly me, before that I was looking in the grand prix qualifiers section and expecting the line-ups to be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Chuck the cheat out, means the Fish takes his place, and Eddy is 1st reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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