rhidassa Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Wasn't a bad meeting up until then. Was a scary crash Mark Baseby had with the view from the home straight, his bike seemed to get caught on the fence but then his head seemed to get caught and richochet off the fence. Good to see him walk off after that. Some decent racing.. though once the rain started there was no way even if it stopped the track was going to be in any condition to race. To be honest, it could have been called off a bit sooner, rather than much standing around sheltering from the rain staring at the soaking track, in my opinion, anyways. It was nice to visit Mildenhall again anyway, and see some old friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 What bad luck but usual chaos on whether the result stands. I understand - but bear in mind this is NOT official and may end up NOT being the case.. - that the decision was that the result of the semis should stand and that the Final would be restaged comprising those teams leading the two semis at the point they came to a premature halt. This seems logical, in the sense that IF this was a 'normal' 15 heat format league or cup meeting, the fact 12 heats had been run would be enough to declare a result; and also as the semis are declared as completed, this meeting today did achieve something: becoming effectively a 'stand-alone' semi for the National Fours.. On the other hand, very tough on the plucky IoW outfit who'd every reason to argue they may have made it through in semi one if the two missing heats had been run. Also means that the Final (which one would imagine would now be staged as a full 4TT in the traditional 16 heat format) where ever held, will be a less commercially attractive proposition as only four teams compete and they'd only be supporters (in the main..) from four rather than eight clubs. Am sorry for the Islanders (especially as I was with their 'Barmy Army' today - who all, BTW, bore an amazing resemblance to the former 'Barmy Crusadin' Army' of old...! ): but all in all, I can see the logic in declaring the semis today as completed. Which would mean in the Final (whenever and where ever that might be.. ) would be: Dudley, Rye House, Buxton & Mildenhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Scott Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I understand - but bear in mind this is NOT official and may end up NOT being the case.. A helpful insight, nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 On the other hand, very tough on the plucky IoW outfit who'd every reason to argue they may have made it through in semi one if the two missing heats had been run. And before anyone picks up on it, especially considering I do programme work for BOTH clubs, Bournemouth will ALSO feel that they may well have caught Mildenhall in semi two if heats 7 & 8 had been able to be staged! TBH, I has sheltered in the bar with a pint of Green King IPA as the final race was on and didn't pick up on the fact that Karl's heat win had brought the Buccs right back into contention...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 And before anyone picks up on it, especially considering I do programme work for BOTH clubs, Bournemouth will ALSO feel that they may well have caught Mildenhall in semi two if heats 7 & 8 had been able to be staged! TBH, I has sheltered in the bar with a pint of Green King IPA as the final race was on and didn't pick up on the fact that Karl's heat win had brought the Buccs right back into contention...!! Yes a couple of clubs may be agrieved if as Parsloes says the final is run somewhere with the teams that had qualified at the time the meeting was abandoned.but it is probably the best thing to do under the circumstances.. At least those riders will get 4 programmed rides..And not have to travel long distances for just 2 rides if their team did not qualify for the final...The format for this meeting is appalling anyway and should be run with 2 =16 heat semis at 2 different tracks followed by the final at a neutral track..It needs sorting if they are going to run it again next year as it is now, many riders will probably not wish to take part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Personally I'd Rage Against The Met Office - but I know that 21st. Century Heathen will leap to their defence!!! Well the MetO forecasters were right so... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I can see the case for both declaring a result to the semi's and for re-running from scratch. Either way it would be hard to argue the decision is wrong so I'll just go with the flow and not moan. That said, from an entirely biased point of view I hope the result stands from the semi and the Heathens go into the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yes a couple of clubs may be agrieved if as Parsloes says the final is run somewhere with the teams that had qualified at the time the meeting was abandoned.but it is probably the best thing to do under the circumstances.. At least those riders will get 4 programmed rides..And not have to travel long distances for just 2 rides if their team did not qualify for the final...The format for this meeting is appalling anyway and should be run with 2 =16 heat semis at 2 different tracks followed by the final at a neutral track..It needs sorting if they are going to run it again next year as it is now, many riders will probably not wish to take part... Well I know what you mean. All that travelling for just two rides (as is certain for 16 out of the 32 riders) must be mighty frustrating... But this has long been the format for this kind of multi-4TTs... If there werte twelve clubs in the division, the best format would be three groups of four divided as regionally as possible, a qualifier at each track with the winners going through joined by the highest scoring runners-up... That way everyone in the division gets a 4TT meeting at their home track (and I personally think a proper 4TT makes for - usually - a very good meeting...);and, as you, say then there's a proper 16 heat final too with all riders getting four rides each time for their troubles... Just need that 12th. side or even better, 12th., 13th, 14th., 15th. and 16th. new side(s) in the NL for 2011!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Well I know what you mean. All that travelling for just two rides (as is certain for 16 out of the 32 riders) must be mighty frustrating... But this has long been the format for this kind of multi-4TTs... If there werte twelve clubs in the division, the best format would be three groups of four divided as regionally as possible, a qualifier at each track with the winners going through joined by the highest scoring runners-up... That way everyone in the division gets a 4TT meeting at their home track (and I personally think a proper 4TT makes for - usually - a very good meeting...);and, as you, say then there's a proper 16 heat final too with all riders getting four rides each time for their troubles... Just need that 12th. side or even better, 12th., 13th, 14th., 15th. and 16th. new side(s) in the NL for 2011!! Id go along with that,, definatly much better than the ridiculous format they are using at present...why dont you put it to Mr Morrish...? Ill back you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil H Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I think the trophy ought to be handed to Buxton as they were the only team that had qualified for the final when the meeting was adandoned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hmm, still no official word on this, unless I've missed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Hmm, still no official word on this, unless I've missed it? Mr. Morrish has said they'll be no decision until discussed at next league chairmen's meeting - can't say I know when that is... Reading between the lines I'd say the two most likely scenarios now are either that the whole semis & Finals are re-run (maybe at Mildenhall but quite possibly elsewhere..) or that the event's scrapped for 2010. The earlier siggestion that the top four at the point this meeting was called off re-convene to race a final only seems now highly unlikely I'd say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhidassa Posted June 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Also depends how long they have to re-schedule when the decision is finally made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Why not hold it on the same day as the PL 4's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Why not hold it on the same day as the PL 4's ? Because life's too short...!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiemint Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 If this meeting is to be re-staged and with the possibility of Mildenhalls demise, would it not be an idea to have the meeting with 2 groups of 5 teams therefore ensuring that all the teams are represented. Oh silly me I forgot that when it comes to sensible decisions the powers that be are very short on common sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Junkie Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 If this meeting is to be re-staged and with the possibility of Mildenhalls demise, would it not be an idea to have the meeting with 2 groups of 5 teams therefore ensuring that all the teams are represented. Oh silly me I forgot that when it comes to sensible decisions the powers that be are very short on common sense Behave yourself Dickiemint, that's far too sensible for the BSPA to consider.......think of something that's logistically impractical and upsets a large proportion of the fans, and your nearly there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 If this meeting is to be re-staged and with the possibility of Mildenhalls demise, would it not be an idea to have the meeting with 2 groups of 5 teams therefore ensuring that all the teams are represented. Oh silly me I forgot that when it comes to sensible decisions the powers that be are very short on common sense Hardly a 'sensible' suggestion until the situation at Mildenhall is clarified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Can anyone explain how the funding of this sort of meeting goes..? Who pays the points money and mileage expenses for the competing teams..? Is it the staging club or is it each indiv. team..? Only, if the latter (which I assume's the case..)this COULD surely still be staged at Mildenhall..? Albeit without the home team... Could pick the remaining top eight in the division, restage and get fans from all over the country to rally round to attend West Row for it, with all NL clubs forsaking the normal 'perks' of a 'shared' event to contribute the takings instead to a new Mildenhall club which could be used to build for next year... Some will attend on the basis that, yes, it may yet still be the last Speedway meeting ever at the track (like 'first' meetings, some "collect" last meetings too...! ) More, one hopes, would attend on the basis of helping out in securing a future for this famous venue. Should be a really bumper crowd... I can't see many obstacles to staging a BSPA meeting (as this is...) under such auspices... Is this a crackpot idea or could it be raised with Mr. Morrish do people think..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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