f-s-p Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) Thank you MatejFerjan.com! org/history didn't have the details I wanted... With the info I needed to verify I'm happy to say we are on the right trails again!!! In the U21 qualifiers Finland returned to the ranks of semifinal stage nations after an absence of 9 years. A full decade has passed since Finland did this well in the qualifiers when Joonas Kylmäkorpi and Kauko Nieminen both made it to the semifinal stage and Kylmäkorpi eventually finished 12th in the final at Gorzow 2000. The effort by the young Finns is the fruit of the hard work put in them by the federation head coach Jyri Palomäki and the federation U21 coach Mikael Teurnberg. A federation backed training scheme has been working now for a third year. Last year Kalle Katajisto became the 1st ever Finn to qualify for the U19 European final. Not sure if it's public knowledge, but it was REALLY close that Katajisto did not ride at all in Gdansk. His meeting permit or what ever had not reached the organizers and the jury president had informed the Finnish camp that without the permit he would not ride. The permit was orgainzed with a few phonecalls and some off office hours federation efforts and it was okay for Katajisto to ride. Funny thing is, that with that same email another form was sent to the orgainizers and that paper had arrived OK... Edited May 17, 2010 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueline Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Lars has taken some photos during last weekends U21-WM QR. 5 in Holsted, which you can see HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 So what is the deal with Bridger then? Is he in another round or out of the championship altogether? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 So what is the deal with Bridger then? Is he in another round or out of the championship altogether? The 5 Qualifying rounds have been compleated. The 2 Semi Finals are in Krsko and Landshut, each of these meetings have a Wildcard space, which should be taken by a Slovakian and a German rider respectively.So unless Bridger is offered one of the wildcard spaces he is out of the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 So Great Britains top 2 under 21 riders have decided not to complete in the U21 Championships? Poor show really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) I had mixed my texts yesterday, dont know what I was thinking. Timo Lahti had been taken wide in his first ride and he dropped from the lead to last and thats why he missed the qualification. Really sorry about this. So the disappointment is still there, but only a little as the fact's have now been sorted. He'll come back next year. Regarding British U21's, it's not many years ago when Jon Cook denied Edward Kennett's participation (feel free to correct me) in his quali stating "he doesn't need those meetings since we have the Elite league". Well what has Kennett done outside UK? I think Bridger know's he cant win the U21's and thinks why bother... Edited May 18, 2010 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusthepom Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 The 5 Qualifying rounds have been compleated. The 2 Semi Finals are in Krsko and Landshut, each of these meetings have a Wildcard space, which should be taken by a Slovakian and a German rider respectively.So unless Bridger is offered one of the wildcard spaces he is out of the Championship give kyle newman a wild card.......he sure deserves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I had mixed my texts yesterday, dont know what I was thinking. Timo Lahti had been taken wide in his first ride and he dropped from the lead to last and thats why he missed the qualification. Really sorry about this. So the disappointment is still there, but only a little as the fact's have now been sorted. He'll come back next year. He would have been in the run-off if he had held first place in the re-run of heat 12.But again he dropped to the back and only gained the extra point because Jepsen Jensen had bike trouble and had to push home But the young Finns were lively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 So Great Britains top 2 under 21 riders have decided not to complete in the U21 Championships? Poor show really. That quote is incorrect, Joe Haines the British under 21 Champion rode and qualified for the semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 He would have been in the run-off if he had held first place in the re-run of heat 12.But again he dropped to the back and only gained the extra point because Jepsen Jensen had bike trouble and had to push home But the young Finns were lively So he did mess up twice! Just not from the start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) So he did mess up twice! Just not from the start... Yup.Really if it wasn't for the fact that Jari and LiGlad tangled(???? ) Timo would have ended up with nothing in that heat.So 2 points was a real bonus Edited May 18, 2010 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Yup.Really if it wasn't for the fact that Jari and LiGlad tangled(???? ) Timo would have ended up with nothing in that heat.So 2 points was a real bonus Danish tanglement = someone's near and you bail off, especially if you're in Denmark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Gorican finally went ahead,and considering conditions,it was a lively meeting.It never once stopped raining all the time we were there.After the meeting,on the way home,it had stopped raining just a few miles up the road. The track was worse at this point than if the meeting had started at its original time,on the Saturday.The problem then was more about the heavy rain causing problems. Apart from Ht1,none of the riders looked completely in control of their own actions.After the first 4 races,the track started to rut up quite a bit.The riders were going in all directions,including Pavlic and Ward who were as expected,in a different class. By Ht10,I thought the track was bording on dangerous.After Ht12,the they attempted to blade the surface,but all that seemed to do was fill in the ruts,making it even worse.It was definitely the right decision to call it day after Ht16.I congratulate all the riders for giving it a go,when most would have preferred not too. Sincere Thanks go to Youngy on the liveupdates team,and Steve Allen,the Poole Press Officer for staying on the other end of the line all the time.I would like to correct a quote I made to them.Dont shoot the messenger,it was MY error! Ht15.It was Kudrayshov who fell and was excluded,and got his bike caught in the air fence,not Ward. Good to meet up and chat with Graham Reeves,# Name Removed #,Gary Patchett,Darcy Ward,Justin Sedgman,Gino Manzares,Colin,Fez.With the potential flight problems looming,it was such a shame,Graham,Crouch and Gary werent able to stay and see for themselves. I know I am biased,but Kyle Newman deserves heaps of praise on his International debut.In very trying circumstances,he held his own in every way.He did himself a lot good for the way he handled it.Understandably down after the run off,but quickly put that aside,and looked for all the positves. On the drive back,he took a call from Graham Reeves,who heartily congratulated him.He also told him that a German Promoter had invited Kyle to an open booking next month.He wanted to put himself in the shop window,in the hope of other bookings. Job done mate! Thank You to the Newman family for inviting me to share this experience with them.It was long,wet,windy,very tiring,and a 25hr drive each way.I wouldnt have missed it for the World. Here is a link to some photos I took while there.Mainly for Kyles record of the event.No action etc,mainly of the Stadium and facilities. http://sports.webshots.com/album/577691792APzkhe Feel free to use the pics if you wish,but if being used on Websites,etc,please simply credit me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 Regarding British U21's, it's not many years ago when Jon Cook denied Edward Kennett's participation (feel free to correct me) in his quali stating "he doesn't need those meetings since we have the Elite league". Well what has Kennett done outside UK? I think Bridger know's he cant win the U21's and thinks why bother... I can certainly remember Kennett not riding in the World Under 21 Cup because he wanted a Saturday at Rye, not so sure about the individual. Surely riders like Bridger should be trying to widen their experience of international competition if they intend making an impact at a high level in the sport? Shocking that GB have only 1 rider in the semi's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 I can certainly remember Kennett not riding in the World Under 21 Cup because he wanted a Saturday at Rye, not so sure about the individual. Surely riders like Bridger should be trying to widen their experience of international competition if they intend making an impact at a high level in the sport? Shocking that GB have only 1 rider in the semi's. I do seem to remember something along the lines of what f-s-p mentioned.Thought Martin Dugard was involved saying riders don't need these meetings.Not sure if Kennett or Bridger was the rider involved though.It does seem to be GB that doesn't take these international comps seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 One of the 5 qualifiers was at Holsted, for the 4 Nordic countries only. Why can't GB be qiven a qualifying round for the British, Australian, New Zealand, and USA riders (i.e riders resident in GB) to be staged in the UK? (Although, given the number of young Oz riders here at the moment, maybe they should stage their own qualifier?) It would save a lot of travelling. And, hey, LB might even turn up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 One of the 5 qualifiers was at Holsted, for the 4 Nordic countries only. Why can't GB be qiven a qualifying round for the British, Australian, New Zealand, and USA riders (i.e riders resident in GB) to be staged in the UK? (Although, given the number of young Oz riders here at the moment, maybe they should stage their own qualifier?) It would save a lot of travelling. And, hey, LB might even turn up! I would back this. The first round should be regionalised. The Nordic countries have their own qualifying round, so should Britain/Overseas, Eastern Europe and Western Europe. Then mix it in the semi-finals round to make sure the best go forward to the wrold finals series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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