waco Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 (edited) There appears to be an amended list on the BSPA site posted today but the Mildenhall field hasn't changed. FIVE KLYS in that field of 12, btw... The bigger question to me (with a personal interest in terms of getting the race card correct..) is: what's this 12 rider format all about and what is it..!!! Also have asked before but why on earth isn't Marc Owen named in any of the semis...? There are a number of riders with far less experience... I believe you have to be 16yrs old to compete in this competition Mark is still 15..Obviously on ability he should be in it..I think I am correct with this being the reason ? Edited April 1, 2010 by waco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Owen Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I believe you have to be 16yrs old to compete in this competition Mark is still 15..Obviously on ability he should be in it..I think I am correct with this being the reason ? It cant be the reason as there are other 15 year olds it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessexboy Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hope it does not rain next weekend Weymouth and Plymouth can only ride on Friday or Saturday nights and the final is on the Friday 16th April at Lakeside lets hope there is no rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 No, Luke is Martin Chessell's son. Martin rode for Arena Essex among other clubs. Gary is his (ie Luke's) uncle... I thought Luke was Mark Chessell's son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I thought Luke was Mark Chessell's son. Yes sorry got my Mark's and Martin's confused.. He IS Mark's son!!! Martin's his uncle!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I believe you have to be 16yrs old to compete in this competition Mark is still 15..Obviously on ability he should be in it..I think I am correct with this being the reason ? To compete in the FIM World U21 you have to be a certain age, i think thats 17. the 250 gold trophy coming up in June July is 14-17 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 It cant be the reason as there are other 15 year olds it in! I have just noticed Ashly Morris is in it,,so you are right Gordon,,why the hell isnt Marc in it i dont get it at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen79 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 So with t the qualifying rounds taking place this weekend, has anyone answered the questions yet... what is the race format for the 12-rider line-up? Who decided on the riders (it's correct, that age can't be the factor as Ashley Morris is included). Also, there has to be at least one more late change with Ben Taylor injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Live Updates From Plymouth: GB U-21 Qualifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 So with t the qualifying rounds taking place this weekend, has anyone answered the questions yet... what is the race format for the 12-rider line-up? Who decided on the riders (it's correct, that age can't be the factor as Ashley Morris is included). Also, there has to be at least one more late change with Ben Taylor injured. It's a 13 rider, 13 heat format... details of which posted on here have been consigned to oblivion due to the lost Easter weekend!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Taken from http://www.speedwayupdates.co.uk KOPIOWANIE TYLKO ZA ZGOD¥ ADMINISTRATORA Please remember that these updates cost the texter and updater money, please don't ruin it for others by posting the score up before the updater has had a chance to update this screen All Updates will appear in this window, please feel free to post any comments below. Texter: Kingofspeed Updater: Youngy Line Up 1. Kyle Newman - 3, 2, 2, 2 = 9 + 2 + 1 = 12 (3rd) 2. James Sarjeant - 2, 0, 2, 1 = 5 3. Rhys Hooper - 1, 1, 0, 0 = 2 4. Gary Irving - 2, 1, 3, 1 = 7 + F = 7 5. Timothy Webster - 1, 3, 3, 3 = 10 + 2 + F = 12 (4th) 6. Thomas Young - 2, 1, 2, 3 = 8 + FX = 8 7. Matthew Bates - 2, 3, 1, 1 = 7 + 1 = 8 8. Lloyd Barrett - 1, 0, 0, 0 = 1 9. Kyle Hughes - 3, 3, 2, 3 = 11 + 3 + 3 = 17 (1st) 10. Alex McLeod - FX, F, 0, 0 = 0 11. Trevor Heath - FX, 0, 1, 0 = 1 12. Jamie Pickard - 3, 1, 1, 2 = 7 + 1 = 8 13. Paul Starke - 3, 2, 3, 2 = 10 + 3 + 2 = 15 (2nd) 14. Ben Reade - Heat Results Heat 01 (Re-Run): Newman, Irving, Barrett, McLeod (Fell, Excluded). 53.22 Line Up: Newman, Irving, Barrett, McLeod Comments: Race stopped. McLeod fell on bend 2 lap 2 and is discluded. Re-Run: From the gate but Irving kept Newman honest. Sponsored by www.enjaydesigns.net Heat 02 (Re-Run): Hughes, Sarjeant, Webster, Heath (Fell, Excluded). 52.03 Line Up: Sarjeant, Webster, Hughes, Heath Comments: Race stopped. Heath went down on bend 2 lap 3 and is discluded from the re-run. Re-Run: Webster gated but Hughes past him on bend 3 lap 1. Webster had an EF on bend 4 lap 4 and pushed the bike home for third. Sponsored by Steve Dixon www.stevedixonphotography.co.uk Heat 03: Pickard, Young, Hooper, McLeod (Fell). 54.13 Line Up: Hooper, Young, McLeod, Pickard Comments: From the gate though Young was never far away. McLeod fell on lap 4 when at the back. Sponsored by: Speedway fans, we will take your favourite picture and turn it into an awesome one-off gift, check us out at www.createaclock.co.uk Heat 04: Starke, Bates, Irving, Heath. 52.78 Line Up: Irving, Bates, Heath, Starke Comments: From The Gate. Sponsored by Friends of Edinburgh Speedway http://www.foes.info/ Heat 05: Webster, Newman, Pickard, Barrett. 53.25 Line Up: Webster, Barrett, Pickard, Newman Comments: Webster gated and was gone. All 4 riders were a bit untidy and it was a bit follow the leader stuff. Sponsored by Splod Heat 06: Hughes, Starke, Young, Sarjeant. 51.43 Line Up: Young, Hughes, Starke, Sarjeant Comments: Hughes gated and was tailed by Starke until he pulled clear. Hughes is pure class and looking very stylish. Sponsored by Heat 07: Bates, Newman, Hooper, McLeod. 53.03 Line Up: Bates, McLeod, Newman, Hooper Comments: Great battle for third with Hooper just holding McLeod off. Track grading now. Sponsored by Merlin Heat 08: Irving, Sarjeant, Heath, Barrett. 53.85 Line Up: Barrett, Heath, Sarjeant, Irving Comments: Sarjeant gated but Irving went outside him on bend 3 lap 1 and was gone. Irving is looking good tonight. Sponsored by www.methanolpilot.com - dedicated to helping speedway Heat 09: Webster, Hughes, Pickard, Hooper. 52.91 Line Up: Hughes, Pickard, Hooper, Webster Comments: A cracking race and tussle between Hughes and Webster. Webster took Hughes on bend 2 lap 1 and Hughes was then all over him until the finish. Sponsored by inthedirt clothing - inthedirt.co.uk - facebook.com/inthedirt Heat 10: Starke, Young, Irving, Mcleod. 52.62 Line Up: McLeod, Starke, Irving, Young Comments: Starke gated and was gone. Strung out like the washing after that. Sponsored by Heat 11: Webster, Newman, Bates, Heath. 53.07 Line Up: Heath, Newman, Webster, Bates Comments: Good battle for second. Webster is gating like a madman and looks a class act. More track grading going on. Sponsored by Heat 12: Young, Pickard, Sarjeant, Barrett. 54.50 Line Up: Pickard, Sarjeant, Young, Barrett Comments: The Race Of The Night. Great tussle at the front with Young just holding on. Sponsored by Thinking about getting a website? - www.brightstardesigns.co.uk - The Bright Light In Website Design Heat 13: Hughes, Starke, Bates, Hooper. 51.91 Line Up: Starke, Hooper, Bates, Hughes Comments: Another great battle with Starke up Hughes tailpipe until the last lap when Starke settled for second. Sponsored by Art and Stitch for all your sewing and art supplies – www.artandstitch.co.uk Semi-Final 1 (Re-Run): Hughes, Newman, Bates, Young (Fell, Excluded). 52.91 Line Up: Newman, Bates, Young, Hughes Comments: Race stopped. Young fell on bend 3 lap 2 and is discluded from the re-run. Re-Run: Brilliant race. Newman gated. Hughes went round Bates for second on lap 2 and was then all over Newman like a rash until bend 4 lap 4 and Hughes took Newman on the line. Sponsored by Semi Final 2: Starke, Webster, Pickard, Irving (Fell). 52.47 Line-up: Webster, Pickard, Starke, Irving Comments: From the gate and Starke looking good. Irving fell on bend 1 lap 2 and retired. Sponsored by Deadlock Clothing - www.deadlockclothinguk.com Grand Final: Hughes, Starke, Newman, Webster (Fell). NO TIME Line Up: Webster, Hughes, Starke, Newman Comments: Race awarded as Webster fell on bend lap 4 whilst at the back. All 4 bunched together from the gate into the first turn and coming out of bend 2 Hughes went through Starke and Newman. It was follow the leader after that. ************************* Comments: Line Up confirmed. Note a couple of changes to the line up as a couple of riders haven't arrived. Weather is perfect, blue sky and a warm sunshine. Decent crowd and the track has been very well watered. © 2005-2010 All meetings are copyrighted to Speedway Updates, permission must be sought and we must be fully credited before they are used elsewhere. 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kiwi Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) so what happens at GB U21 final is it 12 rider the riders that reach the 3 qualifier finals or 13 same format as the qualifiers. how do you pick the 13th or 16 with 12 finalists and 4 'hard luck,(who knows who best)' wildcards Edited April 9, 2010 by kiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysue Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Is there anyone going to the Weymouth stage of this series who would be able to text updates to the updates site? If so, could you please either leave a message here or send me an email or pm. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) Impressive stuff from the 3 Hornets in the line-up, especially Tom Youngs who looks to have come on leaps and bounds over the Winter. Edited April 9, 2010 by Diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Impressive stuff from the 3 Hornets in the line-up, especially Tom Youngs who looks to have come on leaps and bounds over the Winter. Tell you what, he looked really good in the second half at Newport the other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khabiboulin Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 So not content with this unusual 13-rider format, they make it possible for someone who finished 8th in the meeting to qualify in the "top three" by allowing more than half the field into the semi-finals? I wish they'd just stick to good old 16 riders, 20 heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 so what happens at GB U21 final is it 12 rider the riders that reach the 3 qualifier finals or 13 same format as the qualifiers. how do you pick the 13th or 16 with 12 finalists and 4 'hard luck,(who knows who best)' wildcards 8 riders have already been seeded (Woffinden, Bridger etc etc). 3 From Plymouth, 3 From Weymouth and I would imagine 3 from Mildenhall. One of the riders who came third will be the reserve....probably. 16 riders. 20 heats. 2 semi finals. 1 final. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Just on the Mar Owen note, may be the same scenario as Mark Loram missing out on the British Final a few years ago because his application for the event wasn't submitted in time/got lost. Maybe Marc had the same issues or just didn't apply at all. Even more surprising is Adam Roynon's ommission, he is 21 currently, I'm sure others have raced in the Under 21's whilst 21 (Eddie Kennett springs to mind) can anyone shed any light on this? Again could just be he didn't apply for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) Almost right,Youngy! Seven riders have been seeded.Woffinden,Bridger,Mear,Lambert,Auty,Haines,Hart. Then Top 3 from each Semi Final. Rubbish race format,but this didnt detract from a cracking meeting at Plymouth.Most folk would have put Hughes to win it.He did,but boy did he have to work for it.Outgated in all but one of his races,he produced some brilliant manouvres.Inside,outside,he never gave up.His Semi Final win had to be seen to be believed.Outgated by Newman and Bates,who were enjoying a shoulder to shoulder battle,he bided his time.Newman knowing to keep it tight,as Bates prefers the inside run.Hughes took what was left and blasted round Bates on lap two,and then set about Newman. It didnt seem possible he could catch him,unless Newman made a mistake.He was a couple of bikes lengths back going into turn three,then blasting round the outside.Newman only very slightly locked up,but it was enough.Hughes had the speed to make it over the line by half a bikes length or so.Many locals round us saying it was one of the best races they have seen down there. Paul Starke was riding very smoothly and quickly.Thoroughy deserved his 2nd place.Dont expect any easy points from him this season.I fully expect to see an 8pt average from him. Kyle Newman put in a very hard and workmanlike performance.Sensibly riding himself back in,nothing too special until it mattered.Cat amongst the pigeons in the Semi and Final.A little fortunate when in 3rd in the Semi before it was rerun,but took his chance with both hands.Of course,I am a little biased,but like him,I was over the moon with this result. Tim Webster was a revelation.Ive never seen him ride with the sort of aggression he showed .Probably the 2nd best rider on the night.Excellent effort,but got tailed off when it mattered.A distant 4th when he fell in the Final.Shame,because the way he rode,he deserved something from this meeting. The rest? Matt Bates worked hard,but still lacks it to makes fast starts.Essential in these meetings.Impressed with Tom Young,who quietly picked up points.Although it didnt alter anything,the ref missed Jaimie Pickards grass tracking exploits.He was a good metre inside the white line off turn two,and quite how he missed the drainage ditch there,Im not sure! Gary Irving worked hard all night.I must admt,I do like watching him race. Probably the most difficult round of the three,it was certainly an exciting one. Well done to all concerned,except the person who thought up that abomination of a race format! On to Weymouth tonight.More of the same will send us fans home more than happy. Edited April 10, 2010 by BobC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzer Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Adam Roynon is to old to be in the U21, anyone born in 1989 upwards is included. Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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