lastword Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Remember this from earlier this year?? In order to obtain the rights to stage SWC, Gorzow's Town Hall (City Council) had to comply with 41 conditions put in front of them by the BSI. Among others, the Town Hall has to provide and pay for several rooms and one apartment in "the best hotel in town" for the BSI delegation at the time of the event duration, as well as for air tickets, three cars and translators. BSI will also be given, free of charge, 250 tickets for the best seats on the Main Stand, and 50 further (and more, if required) tickets at half price The Town Hall has to "ensure availability ( at no cost to BSI) of four girls to be present at the starting gate", and those girls "must be accepted in advance (of the event) by BSI. Apart from that the Town has to act according to all reasonable requests from the BSI.. The most important condition is that Gorzow, for the rights of staging the event has to pay BSI 300 thousand British Pounds. But that's not the whole cost Gorzow have to bear. There are advertising boards to be bought, security forces to be hired and all other costs involved in staging such a event. The list of BSI responsibilities is much shorter, and consists only of two points. The BSI is to supply their own air fence, decoration box and advertising board used as a background during TV interviews, and clothes for the track staff - if deemed necessary. They will also supply six blank advertising banners, which Gorzow can sell to interesting companies, on condition that BSI will approve them. Other conditions are no less interesting. Gorzow is not to undertake any activity, or voice opinions which might be seen as harmful to BSI reputation, renown and image. In other words Gorzow has to keep its mouth shut. Also when it comes to disclosing any details from their agreement, which the local newspaper has just revealed All in all the whole document consists of 15 pages. When Gorzow's mayor together with Gorzow speedway team chairman recently boasted about the news of signing the agreement with BSI, they did not reveal any details. The City Councillors were not very happy when they heard that everything had already been agreed and signed behind their backs. After all any public money which is to be spent has to be agreed by the whole Council. And councillors learned the details not at the City Council meeting, but from the local newspaper. The last nail in the coffin - so to speak - happened to be the news that the first 50 thousand GB Pounds ought to be paid four days after signing this agreement. Can we believe that the same contract will be in place in sunny Norfolk?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 This is a shocking decision for British Speedway, i can't believe how short sighted some people are. In case nobody had noticed British speedway is facing a very uncertain future, with one of the biggest problems being the lack of aspiration most clubs have to ride in the 'top flight. To encourage and reward one such club is a massive kick in the teeth the the public face of Speedway in Britain-The Elite. Name me one other British club that have improved their facilities to the same degree as King's Lynn. The Stars may well be a Premier League team but their stadium is one of the best, if not the best, in the UK. Of course if you think the FIM and the wider TV viewing public should think Belle Vue is the standard of British Speedway facilities, there's no discussing the matter with you. (No offence meant to BV as I realise they are shackled by their landlords) Of course the race off is assured if Slovenia are also in But what i am saying is,if the meeting is being held in GB the authorities should do their utmost to use a track where GB have the best chance of going directly through to the Final.Anything else is extremely risky.Using King's Lynn,where none of the current squad ride as a home track is crazy imo.And to further the problems it was the home track of what could be called the weaker link in the Aussie squad i.e Darcy Ward.So now by using this track Australia are boosted and GB weakened in my opinion.Ok it is the home track of the GB manager.He can give the riders a few tips,but it isn't the same as using a track where two or three of the GB guys have ridden extensively over the past couple of years.The race offs will be very tricky for GB and the sport in GB needs a big boost on the international stage at the moment.And in this competition we can't rely on the good old wildcard I'd suggest that King's Lynn can and will provide Team GB with as much practice time as they and Rob Lyon want. The track is used most days of the week for training schools, practice and testing (ask Jason Crump ). How many other Uk tracks have that freedom? I'll hibernate to the sidelines again now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Name me one other British club that have improved their facilities to the same degree as King's Lynn. The Stars may well be a Premier League team but their stadium is one of the best, if not the best, in the UK. Of course if you think the FIM and the wider TV viewing public should think Belle Vue is the standard of British Speedway facilities, there's no discussing the matter with you. (No offence meant to BV as I realise they are shackled by their landlords) It has nothing to do with facilities or there improvements, simply a case of clubs like KL choosing the cheaper option of the Premier league, and then being rewarded with hosting a Blue Ribband competition. All major events and televised matches should be hosted by Elite clubs and if PL sides like KL don't like it they should do the decent and much needed thing for British speedway and step up. Oh and Rob Lyon gets the job of Team GB manager, does a shocking job, and the following year Kings Lynn get a World Cup round ! coincidence or what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Shame no Denmark, but should be a cracking meeting IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Does this mean that Kings Lynn will have to get an air fence or is this not required for the Speedway World Cup? I seem to remember that they lost the Elite League Riders Championship because they would not fit an air fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 All major events and televised matches should be hosted by Elite clubs and if PL sides like KL don't like it they should do the decent and much needed thing for British speedway and step up. Why exactly? Because you say so? Are you saying all major event should be held on rubbish tracks simply because they are EL tracks? That, if I may say so, is a very shallow argument and smacks of snobbishness and elitism (pardon the pun). Would you rather a track move up to EL, with all the extra costs that entails, go bust cos there is not a large enough fan base in it's catchment area and the sport lose an excellent venue? Sorry you haven't convinced me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear me. We'll be going from a top class spanking new stadium in Gorzow to the dump that is the NA. You couldn't make it up. Yes the Chipmunks have given it a lick of paint in the last couple of years, but its still not good. How they can be given a meeting of this standing with the facilities on offer is a joke. Is the backstraight still condemned? Couple of crappy stands on the home straight and a few sheds on bend four plus some raised terracing on bends 1/2. Forget watching elsewhere as you will be looking at a fence all night. Will they clean the royal box seats for this meeting as last season there was dirt and crap all over them? Chipmunks must surely have to bring in temp stands, but even so why do they deserve a meeting of this stature. Nothing wrong with the track as long as the Chipmunks don't f*ck it up like they have on a few occasions, but for a club owning the stadium and offering the facilities they will then its poor. Young Jonny looks to have got his feet firmly under the table at the BSPA. SWC meeting and the fours at the NA next season. Nice work if you can get it Jonny. Sort of sums the sport up in this country and why its not taken seriously when you go to holes like these places for supposed big meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I like the sound of that,Kings Lynn is a great race track But a sub-standard stadium and facilities for an event of this size..... After such a successful event at Peterborough last year, I felt sure they would hold it there again this year, and cannot understand why it isn't ! Kings b****y Lynn of all places......grrr ! Watching speedwway crammed into a grandstand only fit for Ronnie Corbett, or through a birdcage....? No thanks. I'll be watching on the telly this time....grrrrrr ! Even Coventry would have been better - at least it has a more central location going for it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 and the facilities are getting better and better Ooooh.....really? Have they stretched as far as getting some soap in the toilets yet I wonder....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I'm loving all this bitterness, Keep it coming folks, keep it coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I'm loving all this bitterness, Keep it coming folks, keep it coming I think it's more exasperation than bitterness screamer, it would be a bit like England hosting the Football World Cup in 2018 and using Kings Lynn Towns ground, or an Ashes Test match being held at Downham Market Cricket Club. It obviously helps i suppose if you know what 'palms to grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastethepoison Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Great news! Been a while since Lynn fans have seen the world's greatest riders grace one of the best tracks in the UK, so surely it's a recipe for a great meeting. Some very bitter posts from a few on this thread. If you don't like the choice of venue, then don't come. I know of a few speedway novices, who have decided this will be their first live speedway meeting so hopefully if it's going to be a corker (which I'm sure it will be) then these people will come back for more in future. Who gives a toss about which league Lynn are in... Rye House are hosting the World U21 Team Cup final next year, what league are they in? If the race track and venue is good enough to hold an FIM event then it really doesn't matter what league the club is in. Congrats to the KL promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Dear me. We'll be going from a top class spanking new stadium in Gorzow to the dump that is the NA. You couldn't make it up. Yes the Chipmunks have given it a lick of paint in the last couple of years, but its still not good. How they can be given a meeting of this standing with the facilities on offer is a joke. Is the backstraight still condemned? Couple of crappy stands on the home straight and a few sheds on bend four plus some raised terracing on bends 1/2. Forget watching elsewhere as you will be looking at a fence all night. Will they clean the royal box seats for this meeting as last season there was dirt and crap all over them? Chipmunks must surely have to bring in temp stands, but even so why do they deserve a meeting of this stature. Nothing wrong with the track as long as the Chipmunks don't f*ck it up like they have on a few occasions, but for a club owning the stadium and offering the facilities they will then its poor. Young Jonny looks to have got his feet firmly under the table at the BSPA. SWC meeting and the fours at the NA next season. Nice work if you can get it Jonny. Sort of sums the sport up in this country and why its not taken seriously when you go to holes like these places for supposed big meetings. And your sh*te hole is worthy of the world u21 world cup i think its your stadium that needs a make over pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 FURROW Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 But a sub-standard stadium and facilities for an event of this size..... After such a successful event at Peterborough last year, I felt sure they would hold it there again this year, and cannot understand why it isn't ! Kings b****y Lynn of all places......grrr ! Watching speedwway crammed into a grandstand only fit for Ronnie Corbett, or through a birdcage....? No thanks. I'll be watching on the telly this time....grrrrrr ! Even Coventry would have been better - at least it has a more central location going for it...... Well if your promoter/owner has as much money that he brags about losing why dont he build his own stadium then he can run on his own raceday hold all these big events that you expect him to get and not be held to ransom by the showground because i am led to belive thats why you havent got the meeting next year the showground have no dates then there would be no problem till that happens the showground are pulling all of your strings which dosent apply at the Norfolk Arena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 It has nothing to do with facilities or there improvements, simply a case of clubs like KL choosing the cheaper option of the Premier league, and then being rewarded with hosting a Blue Ribband competition. How many British tracks are actually FIM licensed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) How many British tracks are actually FIM licensed? Is there a list any where?King's Lynn is a new one on me,so maybe most tracks could be on it if they cough up the cash? Edited December 11, 2009 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I guess some people on here didn't come near the end of the season before and after the world stock car championships. the amount of temporary seats they got in with the stands. the backstraight was almost finished. The only problem i can see but it wasn't one with the stock cars was parking but there is plenty around the area. easy to get on and off the A47/A17. extra burger vans needed buster!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 All major events and televised matches should be hosted by Elite clubs Says who? Christ no wonder us in the pie and chips league get fed up with some EL fans when comments like that are made. Dear me. We'll be going from a top class spanking new stadium in Gorzow to the dump that is the NA. You couldn't make it up. Yes the Chipmunks have given it a lick of paint in the last couple of years, but its still not good. How they can be given a meeting of this standing with the facilities on offer is a joke. Is the backstraight still condemned? Couple of crappy stands on the home straight and a few sheds on bend four plus some raised terracing on bends 1/2. Forget watching elsewhere as you will be looking at a fence all night. Will they clean the royal box seats for this meeting as last season there was dirt and crap all over them? You obviously haven't been to KL recently. Their facilities are fine and the stadium has improvement greatly. The back straight has been refurbished and there is a temporary grandstand that was erected on the 3/4 bends when they hosted the stock car world final. But a sub-standard stadium and facilities for an event of this size..... What a load of tosh. Have you been there recently? I doubt it from your comment. EL fans are up in arms and we all know why. Their noses have been put out of joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Is there a list any where?King's Lynn is a new one on me,so maybe most tracks could be on it if they cough up the cash? In the past, many British tracks didn't conform to the maximum and minimum dimensions for FIM track, but those have been relaxed in recent years. Any British track that's staged an FIM meeting in the past 3 years should be FIM licensed, so I'd guess Poole, Peterborough, Coventry, King's Lynn and Rye House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 How many British tracks are actually FIM licensed? More importantly how many other tracks actually wanted to host the event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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