Starman2006 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) The usual shortsighted people going for the usual favs!! joadjroo is getting n e a r e r the mark, in some places imo Edited January 7, 2010 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 The usual shortsighted people going for the usual favs!! joadjroo is getting n e a r e r the mark, in some places imo Cannot see RH finishing last though. By using the same maxim I decided NP should win, Rh was the third best rider in the final 5 2009 GPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) We all know what Polish referees are like even down to today and there is no doubt in my mind that the meeting was contrived to produce a Polish world champion  If you look at the race-off between Szczakiel and Mauger, you will see that Szczakiel got an evident rolling start. Undoubtly, the referee helped him beat Mauger. But then on the other hand, Szczakiel scored 13 in the regular races and beat Mauger in heat 8 as well. Apparently Poles are known of bending rules in any matter but Szczakiel still had to ride his 6 races and take advantage of all the cricumstances around him.  Besides, Szczakiel wasn't a newbie at that time. He managed to beat all the world top riders two years prior to that final in Chorzow together with Wyglenda in World Pairs Final (I think it was in Wroclaw).  It's been documented the way Szczakiel was treated by the Polish authorities  I think it was typical for Poland at that time. There was a favourite and all the efforts to get a world champ was directed towards him.  But then Szczakiel's career ended because of serious crash with Jarmula during a league meeting and not authorities' actions. Apparently, you can place blames on the authorities for disappearance of Szczakiel after 1973 as he never got into world final again...  What a shame that the 'abuse' in his homeland which destroyed a great rider (I'd not heard that about his face-to-face record against Mauger but that does tell a story...) is still being repeated today by some failing to recognise his very significant achievements..  Even bigger shame that these who repeat today are usually Polish... especially extreme Gollob fans proving in thousand ways that Szczakiel's victory was just lucky. Edited January 8, 2010 by Dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) At this stage in the year only offering 1/3 the odds a place, 1-2 you can keep that. Although i could have been very interested even at this stage on one price had they gone 1/4 the odds a place 123, which is what they should be doing!! If you want to take 5/2 about Sayfutdinov at this stage some 9 1/2 months before the conclusion thats up to you, meaning your moneys tied up for that period of time, and he still has to win it for you to pick up!! Edited January 13, 2010 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Lindgren, if he can bring elite league form into gp could be worth a tenner eachway. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Surely they missed a 0 off Harris's odds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyHart Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Baffled how Woffinden can be shorter odds than Bjerre, Bjerre is proven to be a decent GP rider, Woffinden will have to perform a miracle to be top 3 never mind WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Baffled how Woffinden can be shorter odds than Bjerre, Bjerre is proven to be a decent GP rider, Woffinden will have to perform a miracle to be top 3 never mind WC. Â I would say that woffy at 25 -1 is maybe the worst bet in the history of sports betting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i love tractors Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would say that woffy at 25 -1 is maybe the worst bet in the history of sports betting . i do recall emil being 40/1 for the prague gp last year and he went and one that. i personally dont think tai is as good a rider as emil at the moment but any thing can happen in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 i do recall emil being 40/1 for the prague gp last year and he went and one that. i personally dont think tai is as good a rider as emil at the moment but any thing can happen in speedway.  You dont reckon that tai is not as good as rider as emil at the moment ? are you sure  Woffiden has got as much chance of winning the world title next year as Blazeaway becoming a Liverpool fan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Baffled how Woffinden can be shorter odds than Bjerre, Bjerre is proven to be a decent GP rider, Woffinden will have to perform a miracle to be top 3 never mind WC.  strange odds in general tbh........ Lindgren's odds are charitable..... and Holder's are daylight robbery considering the usual debut season put in by a rider................ Gollob got a sniff of the title in the final GP last season yet Mr Perennially underachieving Jonsson comes in lower  more to the point... what are the odds of a proper bonafide well run machine inspection process being brought in this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprog1 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would say that woffy at 25 -1 is maybe the worst bet in the history of sports betting . Â Would be great odds on him getting in a punch-up though, especially with Emil around ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Would be great odds on him getting in a punch-up though, especially with Emil around ! Â Be careful moose ...the wolf pack, do godders and pro brits even thou there s**t will be after you Edited January 14, 2010 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Crump or Pedersen to win it for me so based on that you would take Pedersen. For an outsider I wouldn't look past Andersen. I fancy the elbows could be out for Emil this season and he'll probably still be a little too wild at times to sustain a title challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 You dont reckon that tai is not as good as rider as emil at the moment ? are you sure  Woffiden has got as much chance of winning the world title next year as Blazeaway becoming a Liverpool fan .   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Crump or Pedersen to win it for me so based on that you would take Pedersen. For an outsider I wouldn't look past Andersen. I fancy the elbows could be out for Emil this season and he'll probably still be a little too wild at times to sustain a title challenge. Â Emil seems to be a rider quite capable of looking after himself, but I take your point. he didn't win many friends with his racing style, and every one of the others knows he is the man to stop. I fancy Emil for the title myself, and Tai will not disgrace himself, unlike Harris and Nichols did last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just looked at te odds for the forthcoming season and while I cant see him being World Champion just yet .... Its weird how William Hill have Tai Woffinden down as 25/1 while Ladbrokes have him at 66/1 ! Â Â Amazing that in only his second year, Emil starts as slight favourite over Crump and Nicki but with 3 GP's in Poland this year, I think 16/1 (EW) for Tomasz Goillob at William Hills is pretty good odds. Â ODDS FOR 2010 SPEEDWAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just looked at te odds for the forthcoming season and while I cant see him being World Champion just yet .... Its weird how William Hill have Tai Woffinden down as 25/1 while Ladbrokes have him at 66/1 !  Amazing that in only his second year, Emil starts as slight favourite over Crump and Nicki but with 3 GP's in Poland this year, I think 16/1 (EW) for Tomasz Goillob at William Hills is pretty good odds.  ODDS FOR 2010 SPEEDWAY  Thats a big jump in price TNT, But, some bookmakers are going 1/3 the odds a place 123, or even 1-2, and some will be going 1/4 the odds a place 1-2 or 123, the later is far better, if you can get the price!! Although Tai Woffinden to be World Champion or even top 3?????? Nah, certainly not this year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Emil 11/4 with Betfred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeone Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 According to Peter Oakes' column in the Daily Star today Crumpie is struggling even to be fit for the beginning of the season, surely that makes his favourite position in the odds an even worse deal. Aparently after several operations he has lost a lot of his bicep muscle and although he is working on it he simply doesn't have the strength back in his arm to ride a bike yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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