willstaxi Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Today its been announced that Vojens has been awarded the 2010 GP challenge inaddition to a GP & the World Cup Race Off and Final. Has the FIM gone mad 3GP's in Poland and 3 major world events at the same venue in Denmark I thought that Ole Olsen's new role was to increase the number of counties that stage top class world speedway events not to run them at his own track, prehaps we could run the British GP at Vojens as well. There might be a logical answer as to why, but shorly at least there must be a statement from the FIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Vojens also got the Youth 80cc Gold Trophy . Redicilous tbh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 There might be a logical answer as to why, but shortly at least there must be a statement from the FIM There's always been a policy of awarding more prestigious WC meetings to venues also prepared to stage less attractive rounds (e.g. early qualifiers), and that's only reasonable. However, I suspect the reality is more down to fewer venues being interested in assuming the financial burden of staging WC rounds in these chastened times, not to mention the list of WC and EC events seemingly getting ever longer. Either way, I don't see what you'd expect the FIM to explain, even if you could get anything more than the usual nondescript press release out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Vojens also got the Youth 80cc Gold Trophy . Redicilous tbh... Why do you say that?With the YGT it just seems to swap back and forth between Denmark and Poland.I guess no-one else wants it.And you can't just have it swap between Rybnik and Skaerbaek.....So Vojens is an obvious venue as it is a "proper" 80cc track.The SWC is another that now seems to swap between Poland and Denmark and again Vojens is the obvious venue in Denmark.So it is a lot down to the other countries to apply for these meetings.Again with the Grand Challenge,who else applies to host this?I can see it just moving from Poland,Denmark,Sweden and GB......Ok one or two of the other Danish tracks seem to be a bit peeved at Vojens getting these meetings,but the investment has been made on and off the track and it pulls the crowds in.The additional GP and the one in Poland do make the series look a little ridiculous.But why shouldn't Denmark get two when the crowds are good and Poland and Sweden also get more than one?Of course i am biased,but i am all for top meetings being held at Vojens.Don't leave out the fact that they alos applied but were turned down(wrongly imo)for a Final round of the World U21 series.If there was a track in western Europe that wanted a round i think they should have been given it.3 rounds,all in eastern Europe is a little biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstaxi Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 There's always been a policy of awarding more prestigious WC meetings to venues also prepared to stage less attractive rounds (e.g. early qualifiers), and that's only reasonable. However, I suspect the reality is more down to fewer venues being interested in assuming the financial burden of staging WC rounds in these chastened times, not to mention the list of WC and EC events seemingly getting ever longer. Either way, I don't see what you'd expect the FIM to explain, even if you could get anything more than the usual nondescript press release out of them. What is less attractive about the World Cup the Gp Challenge & a GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 What is less attractive about the World Cup the Gp Challenge & a GP I'm not sure World Cup rounds have ever been that financially attractive, and the the World Cup Race-Off and Final are potentially a big risk as there's no guarantee of the host team being in them. The GP Challenge is also little more than glorified open meeting these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Surely this is a reward for spending the money to cover the track? It means these meetings can be properly promoted and/or televised safe in the knowledge that they will go ahead on the planned date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) My family won't be attending any future meetings at Vojens. We went to the Nordic GP this August and had an awful time. The only food available consisted of 4 varieties of sausage, our fruit juice was confiscated and there was none available to buy inside (only fizzy drinks and beer). So we had nothing to eat or drink all evening! The Danes drank non-stop and the stadium staff were very unfriendly and heavy handed. We witnessed one supporter being literally thrown through the pit gate. Oh and it rained - very hard!!! Add this to the fact that Vojens is in the middle of nowhere and I don't see any reason to travel there again. Edited November 4, 2009 by Madison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Olsen takes the blame for a hell of a lot and as a powerful guy i guess it is only right in certain cases.Not sure even Ole can be blamed for the weather though And the location,ok he did choose it.But i wouldn't say it is "the middle of nowhere".You want to see some of the other tracks in Denmark.It is in a pretty good situation if you ask me.Near the motorway and a main train station.Plus there is an airport nearby and of course Vojens town itself.If you want a big city GP,there is Copenhagen.And imo the GPs are mainly for the locals and not for GP tourists.And as you see over the past few years,the locals turn out in large numbers for big meetings in Vojens.I congratulate Ole for first taking the GP to Copenhagen and dropping his own track.But he went out and got an investment package together and is turning the track into a super facility........ok,he should have known that it always rains in Vojens and built the track somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Olsen takes the blame for a hell of a lot and as a powerful guy i guess it is only right in certain cases.Not sure even Ole can be blamed for the weather though And the location,ok he did choose it.But i wouldn't say it is "the middle of nowhere".You want to see some of the other tracks in Denmark.It is in a pretty good situation if you ask me.Near the motorway and a main train station.Plus there is an airport nearby and of course Vojens town itself.If you want a big city GP,there is Copenhagen.And imo the GPs are mainly for the locals and not for GP tourists.And as you see over the past few years,the locals turn out in large numbers for big meetings in Vojens.I congratulate Ole for first taking the GP to Copenhagen and dropping his own track.But he went out and got an investment package together and is turning the track into a super facility........ok,he should have known that it always rains in Vojens and built the track somewhere else "The GPs are mainly for the locals and not for GP tourists?" Are you serious? Surely supporters from all around the world travel to the GPs! After all, they do not consist of a team of only Danish riders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 My family won't be attending any future meetings at Vojens. We went to the Nordic GP this August and had an awful time. The only food available consisted of 4 varieties of sausage, our fruit juice was confiscated and there was none available to buy inside (only fizzy drinks and beer). So we had nothing to eat or drink all evening! The Danes drank non-stop and the stadium staff were very unfriendly and heavy handed. We witnessed one supporter being literally thrown through the pit gate. Oh and it rained - very hard!!! Add this to the fact that Vojens is in the middle of nowhere and I don't see any reason to travel there again. We have been to Vojens lots and lots of times and love it! Apart from Cardiff & Copenhagen its pretty much like other basic gp venues. The big sausages I think are the nicest I've tried in the world and I've tried a lot! As for drinks, every GP venue they search bags for drinks and take them off you, nothing to do with Vojens, all you have to do hide them in your coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 "The GPs are mainly for the locals and not for GP tourists?" Are you serious? Surely supporters from all around the world travel to the GPs! After all, they do not consist of a team of only Danish riders!! You think it would be a good bet to host a GP round at Helsinki Olympic stadium (a venue/city that has not seen speedway in about 50 years) and rely on travelling fans to fill it to its 35k+ (about) capacity?! Or maybe advertise it a little and get 30k+ locals to attend also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Rotten Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Not getting into why or wether its fair or not, just saw someone posting that other clubs in denmark annoyed that every big meeting in denmark, seemed to be raced in Vojens.. Well being from denmark (which will result in a slagging off if any other danes reads this ) I simply cant see where else to race the "big meetings" in denmark. Vojens is lightyears ahead of other tracks in denmark, sad, but true.. And despite what might seem to be the general thought about danish tracks, and specially Ole-prepared tracks. Vojens is probably still the best racing track in denmark Edited November 9, 2009 by Sudden Rotten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I can accept Vojens staging a GP but the World Cup & the GP Challenge too... Unfair on a lot of other tracks. It ALWAYS rains there too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I can accept Vojens staging a GP but the World Cup & the GP Challenge too... Unfair on a lot of other tracks. It ALWAYS rains there too! Well, I won't be going to any of them. Went to the 1988 World Final and the whole thing was shambolic. We ended up viewing the meeting whilst stood in a puddle because there was nowhere else to stand. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 And Hans flopped too LOL, priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) And Hans flopped too LOL, priceless. Dekker, if flopped means getting off the floor after a horrendous fall (after being sent sprawling by Per Jonsson) and still taking it to a run-off for first place, then yes he did flop. Who was Swindon representative in 1988? And where did he finish? And who was your last World Champion - Briggo in 1966?? Remember a year later in 1989, Oxford had not only the World Champion, but the World No. 1 AND the World No. 2. At which point our "All The Rest Will be Feeling Blue When Hans And Wiggy Finish 1 & 2" banner was produced and displayed proudly as Wiggy beat Jeremy Doncaster in the run-off for second place. It even got mentioned in following week's Speedway Star. I guess success like that is difficult for a Swindon fan to relate to. All the best Rob Edited November 10, 2009 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Doesn't matter parrot, the thought of you bedraggled and wet stood in a puddle with your Hans scarves is priceless. Keep up the digs against swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Butler Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 My family won't be attending any future meetings at Vojens. We went to the Nordic GP this August and had an awful time. The only food available consisted of 4 varieties of sausage, our fruit juice was confiscated and there was none available to buy inside (only fizzy drinks and beer). So we had nothing to eat or drink all evening! The Danes drank non-stop and the stadium staff were very unfriendly and heavy handed. We witnessed one supporter being literally thrown through the pit gate. Oh and it rained - very hard!!! Add this to the fact that Vojens is in the middle of nowhere and I don't see any reason to travel there again. What was the racing like Madison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Went to the 1988 World Final and the whole thing was shambolic. We ended up viewing the meeting whilst stood in a puddle because there was nowhere else to stand. Rob, you also went to the World Final ub Katowice, right? What would you have said the attendance was there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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