rainman Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Any idea when the dates will be set for the 2010 speedway world cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madame muck Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm sure i read somewhere that the race - off and the final in 2010 are being held at Vojens, Denmark at the end of July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Any idea when the dates will be set for the 2010 speedway world cup? i dont know of any dates but maybe the thread below can give you an idea about when the SWC might take place. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=50574 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggle Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Race Off @ Vojens is 29 July, final is 31 July tickets have been on sale for a few days now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Another boring gate and go final then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Who cares, Team GB won't qualify for the final, and it's a Mickey Mouse competition with the stupid Joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So the final just rotates between Denmark & Poland now? This competiton becoming well and truely de valued. Why dont UK get another go? How about Sweden, havent staged it at all to my knowledge. Czech deserve a chance, Croatia I could go on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Why dont UK get another go? How about Sweden, havent staged it at all to my knowledge. Czech deserve a chance, Croatia I could go on... Probably because none of these countries are prepared to take the financial risk, whereas Denmark and Poland are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Probably because none of these countries are prepared to take the financial risk, whereas Denmark and Poland are. It isnt really a financial risk for Denmark and Poland as you can pretty much bet your house that they will be in the final therefore the fans will turn out to see it. Whereas in England where things aint so certain it could be called a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 i reckon a final at peterborough even without us would be a sell out. what ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 i reckon a final at peterborough even without us would be a sell out. what ya think? It probably could, i mean have you seen the amount of Poles that go to Cardiff who are actually living and working in the UK. Then you would have the fans that travel and also the UK speedway fans that just want to see the worlds best nations going at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 i reckon a final at peterborough even without us would be a sell out. what ya think? It is down to having a promoter willing to take the risk on and of course the availability of the track at the right time.Isn't there problems with the availability at the Showgrounds?Seem to remember them having no meetings for a while because the place was needed for other activities.And isn't there a bit of activity with the promoters there?I see a thread about Bratley leaving,so i don't know who is promoting there and if they fancy hosting such meetings.I imagine though that if there was a British or Swedish promoter at a suitable venue,then they would have been given the chance to host these meetings.I just know from the Ice Racing,that this is a current topic with the Russians.They complain that they have to take the financial brunt because the Swedes(in particular singled out)want to participate in the competitions,but don't want to hold any of the meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Who cares, Team GB won't qualify for the final, and it's a Mickey Mouse competition with the stupid Joker. For the second year running GB has been given a home qualifier to enable them to get through for the race off... BECAUSE THEY SUCK! The tactical and Joker rules are the playing rules of 2009+, speedway in GB is 1990-... It's not really a secret that a few years back GB was moved to a different Event (1->2 or vice verca) because they were afraid that Finland would drop them from the race off... We wóuld have done it too! Of course that was then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 tell you what FSP.... if the Kennett, Woffinden, King, & Bridger investment doesnt work then I am in no doubt that GB will be battling it out on a par with Russia, Germany and Finland ............. and rightly so ......... I shouldnt worry too much about political favouritism because there are only so many seasons they can do it for Bruno I am certain that Pboro would sell out .... very easily tbh ....... but the issues other than what has already been discussed are the facilities, ticket price, total possible attendance............. but more importantly the equation that I reckon has been made into a big poster and is on the IMG wall which goes something along the lines of other large GB events = tickets not purchased at Cardiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 tell you what FSP.... if the Kennett, Woffinden, King, & Bridger investment doesnt work then I am in no doubt that GB will be battling it out on a par with Russia, Germany and Finland ............. and rightly so ......... I shouldnt worry too much about political favouritism because there are only so many seasons they can do it for Bruno I am certain that Pboro would sell out .... very easily tbh ....... but the issues other than what has already been discussed are the facilities, ticket price, total possible attendance............. but more importantly the equation that I reckon has been made into a big poster and is on the IMG wall which goes something along the lines of other large GB events = tickets not purchased at Cardiff It's been one week that we've talked about Woof and EK for the WC and I'm afraid thats it's gonna turn out real. I think it was great what Zorro did, nobody wanted him in it, Ghostwalker being the biggest antifan of them all (from Zorro's hometown and all...) but all the best for Zorro! He made it!! You could do the same. UK make's a difference in world speedway still. Very strong domestic structure (still), loads of meetings and as the other leagues are caught up with their pay structure UK might survive. But the fact remains that you lot suck on track on the international scene. Finland does too, but you know we only had 29 licenced Finnish riders riding in the two Finnish leagues last year and about half of them are KC level, beaten by a half a lap by Katajisto. Sweden has 200+ licenses (all combined) and Denmark reportedly (Spar 2009) 800+. On the other hand, maybe it's like F1, we only have a few, but they are the best! other large GB events = tickets not purchased at Cardiff Aint that sort of crap, Cardiff was only a few hundred short from the year before even with P'borough SWC..? With the global situation were are in. I have first hand experience about it. And more regarding about Cardiff, (still) there are only so many people badmouthing the GP on here, yet Cardiff still gets 40k+: full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) It's been one week that we've talked about Woof and EK for the WC and I'm afraid thats it's gonna turn out real. I think it was great what Zorro did, nobody wanted him in it, Ghostwalker being the biggest antifan of them all (from Zorro's hometown and all...) but all the best for Zorro! He made it!! You could do the same. Wrong again. I have nothing against Zorro, on the contrary he was a good asset for Smederna this season and i thought that it was good to have him back were he belonged. Even if he didnt score well in all the meetings i think he in a way kept the others going by being supportive in the pits. I am just not thrilled to see him or any other rider of his standard in the GPs no matter if they are via qualifying or by WC. Edited October 30, 2009 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimbledonDon Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I am just not thrilled to see him or any other rider of his standard in the GPs no matter if they are via qualifying or by WC. Agreed! It's a farce, he may have "earned" it but really he only had too have two good meetings (the semi final - he was seeded for wining the Swedish title last year) and the Final, and then its hello GP's.... People love underdogs (even me) but save it for the leagues, this is THE WORLDS BEST... we've already seen Grzegorz Walasek and Sebastian Ulamek waste two perfectly good GP places.... and as predicted wouldn't be consistantly competative... we didn't know that Nicholls & Harris would be the worst in the series so although their slots were wasted, they were predicted to do better, and as you can tell Zorro is predicted to do terrible, Holder is expected to do alright but could have a mare, so its pointless giving it to Zorro.... but you'll get people post and say "he's earned it" bla bla bla.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 It's been one week that we've talked about Woof and EK for the WC and I'm afraid thats it's gonna turn out real. I think it was great what Zorro did, nobody wanted him in it, Ghostwalker being the biggest antifan of them all (from Zorro's hometown and all...) but all the best for Zorro! He made it!! You could do the same. UK make's a difference in world speedway still. Very strong domestic structure (still), loads of meetings and as the other leagues are caught up with their pay structure UK might survive. But the fact remains that you lot suck on track on the international scene. Finland does too, but you know we only had 29 licenced Finnish riders riding in the two Finnish leagues last year and about half of them are KC level, beaten by a half a lap by Katajisto. Sweden has 200+ licenses (all combined) and Denmark reportedly (Spar 2009) 800+. On the other hand, maybe it's like F1, we only have a few, but they are the best! Aint that sort of crap, Cardiff was only a few hundred short from the year before even with P'borough SWC..? With the global situation were are in. I have first hand experience about it. And more regarding about Cardiff, (still) there are only so many people badmouthing the GP on here, yet Cardiff still gets 40k+: full stop. i'm sure that there is nothing wrong with the British scene other than the way that the British promoters go about their business........ the Finnish riders should rejoice about it... but the Finnish officials should sob quietly as it can only be bad for the league scene there ............... the day that we start marrying our own talent with a smart smattering of overseas guys is the day that we stop sucking lol well yes you could be right it could well be crap..... but it certainly seems to be a part of the IMG ethos ............Holder is expected to do alright but could have a mare, so its pointless giving it to Zorro.... but you'll get people post and say "he's earned it" bla bla bla.... he earned it (bla bla bla) you have to ask yourself whether some of the issues involving 'gulfs' between riders that the gp's now have are because of the years of manipulation or because of the qualification process.............. tbf to Walasek and Ulamek I thought they did ok.... better than I thought they would quite simply Zorro deserves to be there ...... he is most likely going to struggle but better that than all 16 riders in effect being selected on the word of a few people.................... if it is collateral damage within the notion that keeping an 'FA cup' type dream alive is an integral part of the competition .... then so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballinger Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) Can any on our Polish friends advise if what Sportowe Fakty reports is correct, that the SWC is to be renamed the "World Team Championship" or has Google Translate got it wrong ? It is the final sentence of this report English Translation here Polish original here There's also some other news about BSI not being all that happy with the Polish press leaking information regarding the deal with Gorzow Wlkp to stage the SWC / WTC there next year here Edited November 3, 2009 by ballinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazpozrl Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Yes, that's what that article basically says. But the FIM press release with the 2010 calendar still has the "Speedway World Cup" name: http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco...0_Calendars.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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