Prague May 22nd Its Official This Time

[spencebel]

Did not enjoy the meeting,really feel for AJ.

[i love tractors]

Woofy , no spoiler in heat 12 ? Different rules than EL ???

he rode the whole meeting without one. he did the same at gothenburg, so the rules must be different for the gp's!

[speedy den boy]

If i was AJ i would have visited the ref in his box,sat beside him and demanded he go through the crash using all sky replays and tell me why gollob was not excluded.Why dont riders visit the ref anymore it would make for great tv viewing!!!!!

Edited May 22, 2010 by speedy den boy

[Rob B]

he rode the whole meeting without one. he did the same at gothenburg, so the rules must be different for the gp's!

 

And the first GP too, the spoiler rule is only over here, would have expected Pearson & Louis to know that. No idea why he doesn't want to use one though!

[SCB]

To those saying AJ was robbed, what did Gollob do wrong? He was ahead, AJ turned left into him.

[BigFatDave]

Polish ref, ya know...

 

Bloody cheating Poles, disgraceful.

 

Racism at its best, doubtless condoned by the BSF.

 

Well done Tomas Gollob; opens up the series even more.

[J_D]

To those saying AJ was robbed, what did Gollob do wrong? He was ahead, AJ turned left into him.

 

Completely agree with you, had plenty of room he knew Gollob was there, Gollob stuck to his line AJ took the option to bail. Correctly excluded for causing the stoppage.

 

Riders need to stop taking a swan dive just because they are losing....Fair play to Jason who got up and cleared the track earlier in the meeting.

[BWitcher]

To those saying AJ was robbed, what did Gollob do wrong? He was ahead, AJ turned left into him.

 

Finally some sense!

 

I am sick and tired of people thinking because there is a slight bit of contact riders have to be excluded. Gollob had taken the position from AJ on the straight. He entered the corner as close to the inside as he could. At this point, AJ has a choice, move wide as he has lost his place, or do as he did. AJ caused the stoppage, Gollob did nothing wrong but engineer an excellent pass.

[Phlipphlopp]

To those saying AJ was robbed, what did Gollob do wrong? He was ahead, AJ turned left into him.

Well of course AJ turned left , thats what most riders do when entering a corner , unless they either have

(a) a death wish

( a desire to check out the air fence

© maybe both

Gollob made a dash like he always has done , and yes he was slightly in front , but carrying that speed he definately took AJ's leg from under him . The replays were conclusive. It was no dying swan act . It was blatant patriotism from the ref .

[SCB]

Well of course AJ turned left , thats what most riders do when entering a corner , unless they either have

So you agree with what Emil did vs AJ then? Afterall, rider can turn left.

[Young51]

Racism at its best, doubtless condoned by the BSF.

 

Well done Tomas Gollob; opens up the series even more.

Agreed about all this racist crap thats been posted by people who have the i.q of a sausage roll-it has no place in society,never mind speedway.For the record i believe the referee is a p1ss poor excuse for a ref,but his race is irrelevant.Unfortunately this ref is typical of many new refs currently.Bad refs are nothing new of course-it's just that there's more of them these days.So my racist chums away and boil yir hee haws Well done to Tomek!It aint his fault the refs a phallic object

[Phlipphlopp]

So you agree with what Emil did vs AJ then? Afterall, rider can turn left.

If the move is pulled off with no contact , yes , But surely u dont think AJ bailed out on purpose ? The Sky rear veiw replay showed AJ having his leg taken away . Some u win , some u lose . Gollob got lucky IMHO

Edited May 22, 2010 by phlipphlop

[Phlipphlopp]

Racism at its best, doubtless condoned by the BSF.

 

Well done Tomas Gollob; opens up the series even more.

You really have a chip on your shoulder . Whats racist about critising a ref who in many peoples eyes made a decision that favoured his fellow countryman ?

Edited May 22, 2010 by phlipphlop

[Young51]

You really have a chip on your shoulder . Whats racist about critising a ref who in many peoples eyes made a decision that favoured his fellow countryman ?

No chips on shoulders my "friend" just sick and fed up of dudes like yirsel coming on and spoting crap-a crap ref is a crap ref regardless of their origin.I wonder if an English ref (god forbid) has shall we say assisted a fellow countryman in a similar situation....gasp surely not??!!!You should pull yir heid out yir erse my good man or you will disappear up it Peace to all. p.s total turd of a meeting on a concrete motorway ring road-abysmal.pps whats Tomek supposed to say to the ref-you were wrong?These bams who are calling him a cheat should do exactly what AJ (kool dude said in his interview(twice!) cheers peeps

Edited May 22, 2010 by Young51

[Dietbowers]

Doesn`t matter which country the ref is from if they`re that inept

Gollob got away with one tonight,but congratulations have to go to Jonsson who told it as it was

[Leicester Lion]

So much for all those who prematurely heralded a new dawn for GP speedway on the basis that there was a bit more dirt than usual in the first round. Prague was the same as always. It was a poor speedway meeting, despite Pearson and Louis telling us otherwise (and I doubt they were even in the Czech Republic, let alone inside the stadium). Gollob deserved the win for being the only rider able to produce genuine passing on this awful track, which made his ride in heat 14 was even more stunning. Did Gollob bring Jonsson down? The replays were inconclusive; none of them clearly showed Gollob taking Jonsson's leg away. I don't subscribe to the view that the rider "in front" can do what he likes. I would say the rider attempting the pass must do it cleanly, but there is also an onus on the rider being passed to yield once it is clear the pass can't be prevented. It did appear that Jonsson deviated from his line a little early going into the corner, which may have influenced the ref. This was a close call, and it is unfair to criticise the referee either way.

[BigFatDave]

You really have a chip on your shoulder . Whats racist about critising a ref who in many peoples eyes made a decision that favoured his fellow countryman ?

rac·ism (rā′siz′əm) - from www.yourdictionary.com

noun

belief in or doctrine asserting racial differences in character, intelligence, etc. and the superiority of one race over another or others: racist doctrine also, typically, seeks to maintain the supposed purity of a race or the races

any program or practice of racial discrimination, segregation, etc., specif., such a program or practice that upholds the political or economic domination of one race over another or others

feelings or actions of hatred and bigotry toward a person or persons because of their race

[Phlipphlopp]

rac·ism (rā′siz′əm) - from www.yourdictionary.com

noun

belief in or doctrine asserting racial differences in character, intelligence, etc. and the superiority of one race over another or others: racist doctrine also, typically, seeks to maintain the supposed purity of a race or the races

any program or practice of racial discrimination, segregation, etc., specif., such a program or practice that upholds the political or economic domination of one race over another or others

feelings or actions of hatred and bigotry toward a person or persons because of their race

Best u change your sig then . If i was French , i'd consider it racist , as you proved above

[SCOTLAND1314]

Excellent

 

Tomasz McGollob

 

Gaun yersel big man

[HenryW]

I am possibly in a minority, but for the Gollob/Jonsson incident I thought the ref made a call that was right. The nationality of the riders involved shouldn't come into it, and I would hope that they didn't for the ref involved.

 

If you want Gollob excluded for that move, you are someone who wants to see a sport where no rider can ever make a pass up the inside of another rider ever again....

 

As for the suggestion of national bias from the ref, would you also say that he was biased towards Australians? Despite the fact that the Sky commentary team said nothing about any controversy over the exclusion for Tomicek when he went into the fence at the same place, he was just as much taken out by Holder as Jonsson was by Gollob...(and in case you aint already worked it out, I am saying that he wasn't!)

 

The ref was consistent in his decisions in both incidents, and I would agree with him in both.

 

So much for all those who prematurely heralded a new dawn for GP speedway on the basis that there was a bit more dirt than usual in the first round. Prague was the same as always. It was a poor speedway meeting, despite Pearson and Louis telling us otherwise (and I doubt they were even in the Czech Republic, let alone inside the stadium).

I think the heralding of a "new dawn" was entirely justified.

What Tony O did in Leszno was let the locals do the track as they usually do...I would guess he did the same in Prague. The difference is that Prague is always a crap track for any match, so no shock that they delivered the same for the GP...

 

I would, however, agree that the commentary team make much more out of a race than there really is...I was watching the match with a bunch of friends who have never seen speedway before. I winced every time I heard Pearson claim that a race was as good as you will ever see in the sport...I had to make sure that the others knew that he was talking nonsense when he said that. It surely does nothing for the sport when he makes such claims and it's patently not true...Anyone watching for the first time will hear that and think, "Oh, that's as good as it gets...no point watching that again."

 

Finally, I am pretty sure that Pearson and Louis WERE at the track...Nice imagination that they have if they weren't, given the comments about their commentary position and the people they spoke to earlier in the day