MattK Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Lindback Miedzinski Zagar Woffinden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 For me commercial implications should not dictate who rides in the series !! For that very reason no Brits in 2010 SGP series. Harris has bombed all season in the SGP and failed to qualify in the Challenge on his own track. Woffinden IMO a season too early. He has made significant improvement but he failed to win the U21 and is his sponsorship and equipment good enough to compete on a world level. Another year and I think Tai will be right to consider. However simply through the lack of British competition and Sky Sports influence I can see him getting the nod, especially with the success of ES.. I would go for the following : Lindgren just missed out on the top 8 - Top of the Elite League Averages in UK. Fits the IMG remit - young and marketable. Lindback - Two decent meetings as a Wildcard. Backed by Rickardsson (sponsorship opportunities as Meridian Lifts bailing from the sport) , fits the IMG remit - Young and Marketable. Hans Andersen - Should be a major contender but struggled this year a previous GP winner. Parken provides IMG with a decent crowd and if Vojens used again will need another Dane. Zagar - Would be the outsider but on decent tracks would be a dark horse. Fits the IMG criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 For me commercial implications should not dictate who rides in the series !! For that very reason no Brits in 2010 SGP series. Harris has bombed all season in the SGP and failed to qualify in the Challenge on his own track. Woffinden IMO a season too early. He has made significant improvement but he failed to win the U21 and is his sponsorship and equipment good enough to compete on a world level. Another year and I think Tai will be right to consider. However simply through the lack of British competition and Sky Sports influence I can see him getting the nod, especially with the success of ES.. I would go for the following : Lindgren just missed out on the top 8 - Top of the Elite League Averages in UK. Fits the IMG remit - young and marketable. Lindback - Two decent meetings as a Wildcard. Backed by Rickardsson (sponsorship opportunities as Meridian Lifts bailing from the sport) , fits the IMG remit - Young and Marketable. Hans Andersen - Should be a major contender but struggled this year a previous GP winner. Parken provides IMG with a decent crowd and if Vojens used again will need another Dane. Zagar - Would be the outsider but on decent tracks would be a dark horse. Fits the IMG criteria. Agree whole heartidly on the above. But I reckon that BSI/IMG will put an undeserved Brit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 If Lindgren and Lindback get WC, 4 swedes then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUDGIE Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 For me commercial implications should not dictate who rides in the series !! . On the other hand you have no money at risk, so whilst on a high level everyone would agree that commercial reasons should not have a say, this is real life, and therefore they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 If Lindgren and Lindback get WC, 4 swedes then? More chance of Ian Paisley buying a Celtic season ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 got to be the top ten plus the 3 qualifiers then woffy and maybe zager.prob a bit soon for woffy but theres no other brit who comes close. he might struggle at times but he will add to the gp. maybe not like emil but we need someone to add excitement and with holder in there and dirt on the tracks!! maybe the gps will become watchable again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Cardiff is filled with British fans, but with possibly only three riders in the GP's Crump, Bjerre and Holder riding in British speedway, it could reduce the attendance. Will Crump be riding in England next year ? What about Lindgren and Woffinden ? Seems weird that a few years a go us Wolves fans were pleased to see David Howe get in the Cardiff meeting as we didn't have GP riders. Next year of the few that will be riding in England ..... Wolves could have 2 orf the 3 or 4 Is Tai financially able to compete in the GPs? He is well sponsored, but the step up to GP level must surely cost a fortune. I believe that Tai could compete on the world stage, but is he really ready for it yet? I'd hate to see the lad thrown in at the deep end only to end up being another Harris or Nicholls. There will be new sponsorship deals put in place and excisting ones improved if/when Tai is named in the GP's so finacially I can't see that being a problem. Is he ready for it ? ........ Are they ready for him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Zagar is not GP material and the only reason he's mentioned so often in this thread is that he was riding for Swindon this season. If he was only riding in Sweden and Poland with 9,5+ averages in both and no UK, no one would dare mention his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Zagar is not GP material and the only reason he's mentioned so often in this thread is that he was riding for Swindon this season. If he was only riding in Sweden and Poland with 9,5+ averages in both and no UK, no one would dare mention his name. Agree.He has failed to qualify the last 2 seasons.This season by quite a margin.Might as well,using Parsloes logic give Pavlic the spot over Zagar anyway as he is younger and not quite as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Fuel to the fire a bit. Here are Swedish averages from Elitserien. Names listed are riders that rode or have ridden in the GP or SWC in the past. Or names I thought have been mentioned as potential WC's for next season. 42. Tai Woffinden (AU)_______Vargarna___84___61___13___5,51 What's with the (AU)..??!!!! Someone tell the Swedes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) LINDGREN ANDERSON LINDBACK WOOFY Wether I agree with this lot getting a card I'm not sure but this is what I think will happen because of the commercial BSI needs. Edited October 23, 2009 by Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Zagar is not GP material and the only reason he's mentioned so often in this thread is that he was riding for Swindon this season. If he was only riding in Sweden and Poland with 9,5+ averages in both and no UK, no one would dare mention his name. well you may have a bit of a point there FSP but...... wasnt Zagar recommended to IMG by the FIM as one of the 4 wildcards last year?..... and instead of Bomber? tbf Miedzinski doesnt ride in the UK and he would clearly be a strong candidate if it werent for the quota system in place....... Zagar appears to have had a better season than last so in my book it makes it likely that the FIM are going to propose him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Seems weird that a few years a go us Wolves fans were pleased to see David Howe get in the Cardiff meeting as we didn't have GP riders. Next year of the few that will be riding in England ..... Wolves could have 2 orf the 3 or 4 As I posted previously, substandard riders to appease British suporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggle Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 try this combination... Lindgren Andersen Woffinden and...... Kennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 well you may have a bit of a point there FSP but...... wasnt Zagar recommended to IMG by the FIM as one of the 4 wildcards last year?..... and instead of Bomber? tbf Miedzinski doesnt ride in the UK and he would clearly be a strong candidate if it werent for the quota system in place....... Zagar appears to have had a better season than last so in my book it makes it likely that the FIM are going to propose him again Dont remember that one... Then again I seem to have fallen a bit from the whole GP wagon due to lack of time. I dont have anything agains Zagar really, he's good at times but not someone they really need in the GP. He didn't even impress at Krsko this season, 10th with 7 points on a track that is touted as his home in a series he's supposed to be good enough for... Lee Richardson would be my pick for the British WC with a contract clause that says it's top8 this season or your out for good. If Nicholls could do 9 points avg's in all the big leagues next season and make it to the GP-challenge he should get another chance with a similar clause for 2011. Woffinden would only benefit from an extra year out. Harris has National League written all over his team's outlook and his performance isn't that great either. He's not worthy of a wc. It might be an easy way out for me, but I'd give the wc's to Fredrik and Hans. Just to give Trickninho a good slap on the wrist I'd leave him out, but there's so much all kinds of stuff through Rickardsson's past history in the sport that I think they would probably find a way to get him in by any means necessary. If Holta decides to quit, give it to the next pole (unless the rules state that the next in line from the challenge take's it. If that's the case, Holta can contact me if it depends on the money ), but is it Ulamek or Protasiewicz??? Both have a proven track record of not really making it, so Miedzinski? Is he good enough??? Forget get about Pavlic for next season, he's already booked for a wc appearance at Gorican (Spar states Gorican will host a round -10). There's still one left, I'd give it to Kauko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Does make me wonder which rider will be left out if there is a contract agreement to have TWO British riders in the Series ? Lindgren ? Zagar ? or Andersen Then who would be the second Brit alongside Tai .... If there was 2 Brits ... Kennett ~ Harris ~ GT Rico ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Ideally 9. Freddie 10. Hans 11. Zagar 12. Lindback Probably 9. Hans 10. Zagar 11. Tai 12. Richardsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy1997 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) I'm gunna go for Lindgren: Been on the rostrum twice and in 5 semi finals this year, top of UK averages, another young championship contender, also was 4 points of the top 8 and came 4th in gp challenge... Andersen: had his ups and downs this year but still has been on the rostrum, I think missing out british racing this year was why we havent seen last years hans andersen. Bring him bacckk. Harris/Woffinden: Harris as one of the top brits, has had his gp moments but we need a decent brit for cardiff. personally i think Tai should wait till next year to qualify himself, he needs one more year in the top leagues in Poland, Sweden and Britain. Surely if Richardson was in the GPs he would never turn up.... so going with Bomber as the only brit in the series. Not sure about the 4th pick... cant think of any one who stands out really... we'll just have to wait and see Edited October 25, 2009 by Jammy1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Elephant Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 LINDGREN LINDBACK ANDERSEN RICHARDSON Not that Potty Mouth Tai - not till next season. Same with Darcy Ward. He needs Elite lge experience at least in the UK. Get that under his belt, and the season after could be a real possibility to step up to GP level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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