Wildcards 2010

[orion]

Maybe you cant.

 

So you can ?

[wjm]

So you can ?

 

 

Well if you want to put it a logical way.

 

Highest averaged Brit in his home country and highest placed rider in his National Championship with out GP experience.

 

If you want to try and belittle one of them getting an opportunity it would be Woffinden.

 

[smiles]

Was hoping it might be a mistake via the other source, but thanks for confirming the news.

Regardless of what people believe Ed will achieve in 2010, never has a rider been so undeserving of a nomination. Utter joke.

 

Another thought - if Holta decides not to ride in the 2010 series then I believe Harris will be next in line?

 

Somebody said at Belle vue last nite that Harris turned it down

[orion]

Well if you want to put it a logical way.

 

Highest averaged Brit in his home country and highest placed rider in his National Championship with out GP experience.

 

If you want to try and belittle one of them getting an opportunity it would be Woffinden.

 

 

All right never knew that what were the averages with him say to rico nicholls and harris in the uk ?

[hatcham]

Whilst i agree that Britain does not deserve to have one rider in the GP series, let alone two, and even then neither should be Eddie Kennett, we do maybe need to look at the bigger picture here. I presume Britain along with Poland, Sweden and Denmark will always be guaranteed two places, is that wrong ? maybe, but lets not forget next year when the biggest sporting competition in the world takes place, there will be teams from all corners of the globe, does North and Central America deserve at least three teams ? of course not, same could be said for Asia, as there will be many capable European football teams sitting at home watching the likes of Honduras and North Korea embarrass themselves knowing they could have done far better.

We should all be more concerned with what the exact entrance criteria for the GP's are, if i were Australian, American or from an emerging speedway nation like Russia, i would want to know what guarantees are in place for us. Maybe we should start to accept that International competition needs International competitors, and if the best 15/16 riders were all from the same nation the event would be boring, if we could accept the premise that the 15 regulars are all to come from certain countries therefore will not be the worlds top 15 we would be well on the way, we could then try to come up with a better system than the farce of the top eight, GP challenge and the wild cards.

[frigbo]

All right never knew that what were the averages with him say to rico nicholls and harris in the uk ?

 

Not even close!

[orion]

Not even close!

 

Wow never knew Kennett was that far ahead ...fair play to him being the highest average brit in his own league .

Edited October 27, 2009 by orion

[frigbo]

Wow never knew Kennett was that far ahead ...fair play to him being the highest aveage of any brit in his own league ....

 

.....called Edward!

[superguest]

Whilst I can see why people are up in arms over the Wildcard picks the fact that Edward and Tai have been so written off from the start makes me want them to do well . It's not their fault they are British!

 

With so many GP's taking place in Polska will Poland demand 4 GP riders I wonder

 

[Authorised]

Highest averaged Brit in his home country and highest placed rider in his National Championship with out GP experience.

 

Is he? Speedway Star says Scott Nicholls is 8th in averages and British?

 

[LisaColette]

Whilst I can see why people are up in arms over the Wildcard picks the fact that Edward and Tai have been so written off from the start makes me want them to do well . It's not their fault they are British!

 

With so many GP's taking place in Polska will Poland demand 4 GP riders I wonder

Ah, but Tai did choose to be British!

[Sandie]

Hmmmmm - I just put this on the 09 thread that has jumped up somehow.....

 

Apparently Ed has pretty much confirmed at the NSSC tonight that he's been invited to take a place and that he will be taking it up.....!!!

Really Jenn?

Whoever passed this information on to you up there in Manchester must have been at a different meeting to me!

 

Ed asked NOT be to questioned on the GP leak as he was not going to discuss it.

And I am sure he didnt break away from that agreement.

 

It would seem that someone is stirring it!!!

 

[T.N.T.]

Doesn't travel well ..... Gets sick at the thought of flying

So did BA but look at the sponsors he gets these days !

 

 

It would be interesting to see who are on averages in the leagues the worlds top 15 riders.

 

POLAND

1. Jason CRUMP 1975 Atlas Wrocław 16 195 7 202 81 2,494

Dom: 8 97 4 101 40 2,525

Wyjazd: 8 98 3 101 41 2,463

2. Nicki PEDERSEN 1977 Cognor Częst. 12 136 5 141 57 2,474

Dom: 5 61 2 63 25 2,520

Wyjazd: 7 75 3 78 32 2,438

3. Leigh ADAMS 1971 Unia Leszno 16 193 12 205 84 2,440

Dom: 8 98 3 101 41 2,463

Wyjazd: 8 95 9 104 43 2,419

4. Greg HANCOCK 1970 Cognor Częst. 18 195 20 215 95 2,263

Dom: 10 107 10 117 51 2,294

Wyjazd: 8 88 10 98 44 2,227

5. Tomasz GOLLOB 1971 Caelum Gorzów 16 170 14 184 82 2,244

Dom: 8 83 8 91 40 2,275

Wyjazd: 8 87 6 93 42 2,214

6. Jarosław HAMPEL 1982 Unia Leszno 16 174 18 192 86 2,233

Dom: 8 84 10 94 41 2,293

Wyjazd: 8 90 8 98 45 2,178

7. Kenneth BJERRE 1984 Lotos Gdańsk 15 178 4 182 82 2,220

Dom: 8 88 2 90 41 2,195

Wyjazd: 7 90 2 92 41 2,244

8. Piotr PROTASIEWICZ 1975 Falubaz Z.G. 18 163 26 189 86 2,198

Dom: 9 94 17 111 44 2,523

Wyjazd: 9 69 9 78 42 1,857

9. Emil SAYFUTDINOV 1989 Polonia Bydg. 20 220 12 232 106 2,189

Dom: 10 122 8 130 51 2,549

Wyjazd: 10 98 4 102 55 1,855

10. Rafał DOBRUCKI 1976 Falubaz Z.G. 18 173 15 188 89 2,112

Dom: 9 88 11 99 44 2,250

Wyjazd: 9 85 4 89 45 1,978

11. Andreas JONSSON 1980 Polonia Bydg. 19 201 13 214 102 2,098

Dom: 10 103 5 108 49 2,204

Wyjazd: 9 98 8 106 53 2,000

12. Ryan SULLIVAN 1975 Unibax Toruń 18 180 15 195 93 2,097

Dom: 9 103 7 110 46 2,391

Wyjazd: 9 77 8 85 47 1,809

13. Grzegorz WALASEK 1976 Falubaz Z.G. 18 174 23 197 95 2,074

Dom: 9 87 13 100 45 2,222

Wyjazd: 9 87 10 97 50 1,940

14. Christopher HOLDER 1987 Unibax Toruń 18 153 13 166 83 2,000

Dom: 9 79 10 89 40 2,225

Wyjazd: 9 74 3 77 43 1,791

15. Wiesław JAGUŚ 1975 Unibax Toruń 18 155 10 165 83 1,988

Dom: 9 82 6 88 41 2,146

Wyjazd: 9 73 4 77 42 1,833

16. Rune HOLTA 1973 Caelum Gorzów 16 154 8 162 84 1,929

Dom: 8 85 6 91 41 2,220

Wyjazd: 8 69 2 71 43 1,651

17. Frederik LINDGREN 1985 Falubaz Z.G. 18 142 15 157 82 1,915

Dom: 9 97 9 106 44 2,409

Wyjazd: 9 45 6 51 38 1,342

18. Adrian MIEDZIŃSKI 1985 Unibax Toruń 18 161 20 181 95 1,905

Dom: 9 90 12 102 47 2,170

Wyjazd: 9 71 8 79 48 1,646

19. Krzysztof KASPRZAK 1984 Unia Leszno 16 141 11 152 81 1,877

Dom: 8 77 8 85 41 2,073

Wyjazd: 8 64 3 67 40 1,675

20. Matej ZAGAR 1983 Caelum Gorzów 15 116 19 135 73 1,849

Dom: 7 58 8 66 33 2,000

Wyjazd: 8 58 11 69 40 1,725

 

 

SWEDEN

 

Nicki Pedersen (DK) 10,44

Leigh Adams (AU) 10,18

Greg Hancock (US) 9,55

Jason Crump (AU) 9,41

Hans Andersen (DK) 8,74

Tomasz Gollob (PL) 8,56

Wieslaw Jagus 8,49

Andreas Jonsson (SE) 8,37

Piotr Protasiewicz (PL) 7,98

Rune Holta * (PL) 7,96

Jaroslaw Hampel (PL) 7,87

Fredrik Lindgren (SE) 7,84

Peter Karlsson (SE) 7,84

Bjarne Pedersen (DK) 7,77

Lee Richardson (GB) 7,49

Ryan Sullivan (AU) 6,99

 

Scott Nicholls * (GB) 6,98

Troy Batchelor 6,96

Grzegorz Walasek * (PL) 6,76

Rafal Dobrucki * (PL) 6,71

Adam Shields * (AU) 6,59

Krzysztof Kasprzak 6,56

Niels-Kristian Iversen * (DK) 6,37

Adrian Miedzinski * (PL) 6,20

Chris Holder * (AU) 6,17

Magnus Zetterström 6,12

Kenneth Bjerre * (DK) 5,75

Sebastian Ulamek * * (PL) 5,71

Chris Harris * (GB) 5,59

 

Pedersen, Crump, Adams and Hancock are the top 4 in both Sweden and Poland while Protasiewicz, Holta, Jagus, Gollob, Jonsson and Sullivan feature in both top 16's. That gives you the top 10 with 4 Poles, 3 Aussies, 1 Swede, I Dane and 1 American.

 

Fredrik Lindgren only just missed out in Poland but is 13th in Sweden so that makes 2 Swedes.

Grezgorz Walasek is 13th and 19th to take the 12th spot and add a 5th Pole.

Rafal Dobrucki is 10th in Poland and 20th in Sweden to make it 6 Poles

Chris Holder is 14th and 25th so he could make it 4 Aussies

 

The last 2 should come by averages from possibly Kenneth Bjerre and Emil Sayfutdinov

 

 

Of those 16 .... 10 will be in the 2010 Series

[Ghostwalker]

TNT those Swedish averages are old, the new official averages are available at:

 

http://www.aktuellspeedway.se/091021Offici...nitt%202010.pdf

 

going by those averages the top 15 would be:

 

1. Jason Crump 10,02
2. Leigh Adams 9,38
3. Nicki Pedersen 8,95
4. Greg Hancock 8,76
5. Wieslaw Jagus 8,49
6. Andreas Jonsson 8,45
7. Piotr Protasiewicz 8,26
8. Jaroslaw Hampel 7,91
9. Bjarne Pedersen 7,83
10. Lee Richardson 7,72
11. Rune Holta 7,71
12. Adrian Miedzinski 7,60
13. Tomasz Gollob 7,43
14. Emil Sajfutdinov 7,25
15. Fredrik Lindgren 7,21

Averages for the other GP Riders:

 

Kenneth Bjerre 6,76

Magnus Zetterström 4,24

Chris Holder 7,10

 

 

British riders:

1. Lee Richardson 7,72
2. Tai Woffinden 6,63
3. Daniel King 5,95
4. Scott Nicholls 5,65
5. Edward Kennet 3,00

[srbramble]

The more I think about it, the more I believe this that this is no more than mischief making. With that stats provided, we can clearly see Kennett does not deserve a place in the GPs'. Don't get me wrong, I like Eddie and his style of racing, I just don't see him doing himself any favours by accepting a wildcard place, even if he has, or is to be, offered one in the first place.

Tais' place is questionable, but I see him offering so much more than others, plus, he will be a crowd puller wherever he goes, and the sponsors will be queueing up to get on board with him. As is the case for Darcy Ward, who, along with Tai, will give this series a kick up the backside it so clearly needs.The same cannot be said for Eddie, I'm afraid.

[Cornishman]

What is it with this site and people desperately trying to prove they are 'in the know' about things that they actually know sweet f.a about?

 

What are you people trying to achieve? You'll just look even bigger idiots than you already do when the riders are announced and you are completely wrong

 

There might be one person trying to tell us something they really do know, but there are so many others trying to make themselves look big and important that this one person will be grouped with them and ignored.

 

This forum is nothing compared with a few years back

 

[wjm]

Is he? Speedway Star says Scott Nicholls is 8th in averages and British?

 

 

Yes , he is.

[baz brush]

Surely until a rider gets into the gp series they don't get the sponsorship oppurtunities that it will bring in. I for one know Eddie as a friend and also know the level of backup that will be available to him IF and I stress IF he gets into the GPs.

 

Should Ed recieve a wildcard into this seasons series I will be supporting him all the way.

 

Good Luck with being selected mate.

Edited October 28, 2009 by baz brush

[lucifer sam]

Ah, but Tai did choose to be British!

 

Did he? He was born in Britain, his dad is British and his mum is British. So in what way did he "choose" to be British?? He IS British.

 

All the best

Rob

 

[srbramble]

Surely until a rider gets into the gp series they don't get the sponsorship oppurtunities that it will bring in. I for one know Eddie as a friend and also know the level of backup that will be available to him IF and I stress IF he gets into the GPs.

 

Should Ed recieve a wildcard into this seasons series I will be supporting him all the way.

 

Good Luck with being selected mate.

 

It goes without saying that many brits will do the same, me included, but that's not the arguement here. Of the 4 names mentioned as possible wildcards, his is the most rediculous.