WembleyLion Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 With the top eight now known and Freddie surely being a nailed on certainty and Hans probably being an almost nailed on certainity who will get the two remaining slots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 With the top eight now known and Freddie surely being a nailed on certainty and Hans probably being an almost nailed on certainity who will get the two remaining slots? I'm not that sure that Lindgren will get one, i think Lindbäck might be a contender for "that" WC. The remaining two well Laguta and Richardson maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolus Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 There is still question if Holta is wishing to ride in the next season. But i think he is going to be there....And I am afraid that there would be two spots for GB again, so: -Lindgren -Richardsson -Woffinden -Zagar/G.Laguta I don't believe Andersen deserves a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I dont see any Brits as good enough to justify a place in next years GP's, hopefully 2011 young Tai will of qualified and be there by right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Holta's comments after the GP must cast some doubt over his participation in 2010. If he decides to give it up, then as far as I understand Freddie gets in by finishing 4th at Coventry. Then that would still leave 4 nominations, Hans would certainly get one and I reckon Lindback did enough in his 2 wildcard appearances to be given another shot. Lindback's links to TR will not harm his chances either. At least one of the other nominations will go to a Brit and it isn't easy to make a convincing case for any of them. Harris and Nicholls finished as the bottom 2 this year and have shown little in the 11 GP's to convince that it wouldn't be the same next year. Harris has never qualified for the GP's by right and though he is the reigning British Champ it would seem very unfair if he got a pick ahead of Ulamek and Walaszek who finished ahead of him in 2009. Richardson would be a step backward imo and Kennett has never shown enough at international level to suggest he could cope at the top level (at the moment). That leaves Tai who got knocked out of the qualification process at Lonigo, got a second bite at Motala and only gleaned 5 points. However, he has improved as the season has progressed and performed with promise in the SWC and showed his ability in the Under-21 Final. With the success of Emil in GP 2009 I reckon the organisers will give Tai his chance. That leaves one spot, which depends on whether they want 2 Brits or not. Personally I hope they don't give the Brits 2 spots (for the reasons outlined above) in which case I would like to see Zagar back in. So if Holta rides I would go for Lindgren, Andersen, Woffinden and Lindback - if Rune gives it away then add Zagar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 TOP EIGHT Jason Crump Tomasz Gollob Emil Sayfutdinov Greg Hancock Andreas Jonsson Nicki Pedersen Rune Holta Kenneth Bjerre QUALIFIERS Magnus Zetterstrom Jarek Hampel Chris Holder WILD CARDS Fredrik Lindgren Hans Andersen Tai Woffinden Matej Zagar Antonio Lindback may be considered as could a second Brit in Lee Richardson or even Chris Harris but I think Tai Woffinden and Matej Zagar will get the two remaining places for 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 There is still question if Holta is wishing to ride in the next season. But i think he is going to be there....And I am afraid that there would be two spots for GB again, so: -Lindgren -Richardsson -Woffinden -Zagar/G.Laguta I don't believe Andersen deserves a spot. Woffinden and Richardson doeserve places but HANS ANDERSEN doesnt. You English really are blinded by nationality (not all may i add) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Woffinden and Richardson doeserve places but HANS ANDERSEN doesnt. You English really are blinded by nationality (not all may i add) I don't think Bartolus comes from any country within the British Isles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolus Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Woffinden and Richardson doeserve places but HANS ANDERSEN doesnt. You English really are blinded by nationality (not all may i add) I am not english:D. I took the unwritten rule about two british into account. That makes two spots less. Next spot for Lingren who was pretty unlucky this year (4th in challenge and 9th in general qualification). And the last wild card for Zagar (who did better in Polish league than Andersen and great in British league) or for Laguta (who did great in SWC and better than Andersen in Swedish league.) On the other side Andersen was not very convincing this year. Oh and this nominations are my predictions. This doesn't mean I personally would give them WCs. Edited October 18, 2009 by Bartolus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) I am not english:D. I took the unwritten rule about two british into account. That makes two spots less. Next spot for Lingren who was pretty unlucky this year (4th in challenge and 9th in general qualification). And the last wild card for Zagar (who did better in Polish league than Andersen and great in British league) or for Laguta (who did great in SWC and better than Andersen in Swedish league.) On the other side Andersen was not very convincing this year. Oh and this nominations are my predictions. This doesn't mean I personally would give them WCs. Apologies for the English comment. Hans can be called a veteran of the GPs and one bad series doesnt mean he isnt worthy of being there. Edited October 18, 2009 by Snyper1010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 What may have an effect on the wildcards is whether the picks will ride in GB. Cardiff is filled with British fans, but with possibly only three riders in the GP's Crump, Bjerre and Holder riding in British speedway, it could reduce the attendance. So once again we will be watching substandard riders to appease the British supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 What may have an effect on the wildcards is whether the picks will ride in GB. Cardiff is filled with British fans, but with possibly only three riders in the GP's Crump, Bjerre and Holder riding in British speedway, it could reduce the attendance. So once again we will be watching substandard riders to appease the British supporters. More utter nonesense. I go to the GPs firstly for the oocassion and secondly to see Hans Andersen. Not everyone at cardiff is there to see an English rider. Simple look at the different flags that are flying that will put paid to your fairy tale idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I don't understand why people are so against having some new blood in the series for 2010. Lets face it, next years champion will be either Crump, Pedersen or Sajfudinov, with possibly Hancock and Gollob giving them a run for their money. You see, there lies the current problem. There are only 5 or 6 riders who have what it takes to win, so the other 9 or 10 are bit part players in the series, so just for a change, lets see if we can find the next contender for the title sooner rather than later. I'm bored with pretty much the same old faces year in, year out. Apart from one freak weekend, when has Harris ever justified his inclusion? There are 20 or 30 riders out there who can out perform at least half the field of this year. Too many under achievers this season who don't really warrant a place next year, yet we are so quick to want them back in, only to keep on moaning that the whole gp series is dull. Lets have one radical year where we try something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 More utter nonesense. I go to the GPs firstly for the oocassion and secondly to see Hans Andersen. Not everyone at cardiff is there to see an English rider. Simple look at the different flags that are flying that will put paid to your fairy tale idea. Read the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 So if Holta rides I would go for Lindgren, Andersen, Woffinden and Lindback - if Rune gives it away then add Zagar. I would say those four are spot on... I assume from his comments after winning the U-21s, Darcy's not up for it.. IF he is, though, I'd select him ahead of Andersen... - though I am a big fan of Hans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 If Ward was going to be in would be ahead of Tai. Hans has forgot more about speedway than Tai will ever know. No way is Tai a better racer than Hans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 If Ward was going to be in would be ahead of Tai. Hans has forgot more about speedway than Tai will ever know. No way is Tai a better racer than Hans. But he has the potential to be . I would agree Lindgren should get one , Zagar has been in the form of his life this year and also deserves one , the old chesnut about needing a British rider means Woffinden will almost certainly get one . And if Darcy Ward steps up to top flight racing full-time , as under 21 champion , he should also get one . Andersen will be unlucky to miss out , but he came back strongly the last time he was overlooked and can do so again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I would like to see Snyper1010 given a wildcard to next season's SGP, as I'd love to see him competing against his hate figure, Tomasz Gollob, next year. Would make for entertaining viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 If Ward was going to be in would be ahead of Tai. Hans has forgot more about speedway than Tai will ever know. No way is Tai a better racer than Hans. The whole 'system' is utterly flawed. When riders as good as Hans and Freddie fail to make the top eight there's an assumption that they should be in... But that devalues the concept of only the top eight remaining in...: it effectively means 9th. & 10th. each year have a close to automatic right to be in the next year... Surely the solution is either (1) return to the previous system of qualifiers and those out side the top eight meeting in a Qualification meeting; or (2) start the new year with qualification meetings so that those who only know they've missed out in the last GP know they have a qualification route to the next series.. The current way things work is just about the WORST organised 'system' in world sport...: making literally NO sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedUnitedUnited Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Id be shocked if it wasnt Hans, Freddy, Zagar and Tai. But the first 3 are guaranteed IMO, but the last place will be a tough one. Might add another Rusky in Laguta, or another pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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