pandorum Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 so how should he be punished then? surely you aren't suggesting that this should slide by without any action at all? validate something like this and it gives the green light for all riders to do this, and of course for one of them to push the boundaries even more...... although as has been documented, they were probably out to get Michael Lee at the time, he suffered a major ban for riding the wrong way around the track...... sounds bad but the reality was that he was doing this on the white line and away from the racing line.... compare the width of a bike to the length... which is how tomasz parked his bike, and you have some understanding of how serious it 'could' be for Tomasz politically I guess the best way for all concerned is a fine ... of which no doubt his sponsors would pick up...... point made and punishment received Why does he have to be banned is all I am saying as that is stupid beyond belief and anyone who thinks robbing the paying public of a talent like Gollob is bonkers. Not the worst excess on a track I have seen and the fuss being made is a bit OTT. Yeah it was utterly stupid so take some of his sponsors money and tell him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) And you are an utter disgrace to the country you come from. Change your drugs. Scottish born and bred... For what it's worth I can see why Gollob was annoyed but he shouldn't have left his bike on the track. However I don't think it's neccessary to ban him - a fine and a good telling off and the misery of seeing Pedersen win his home GP will no doubt suffice as punishment! Edited October 20, 2009 by superguest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Scottish born and bred... For what it's worth I can see why Gollob was annoyed but he shouldn't have left his bike on the track. However I don't think it's neccessary to ban him - a fine and a good telling off and the misery of seeing Pedersen win his home GP will no doubt suffice as punishment! And proud What would everyone be saying if a rider had hit the bike and was now lay in hospital? Should Gollob then have been banned? What does a rider have to do to be banned? or should they never be banned as that would be robbing the paying public? I would feel more robbed to have to sit and watch the cheat on track. EDIT i dont think cheat is the right word. But as its late/early and i have just done a long journey i cant be bothered thinking too hard. Edited October 21, 2009 by Snyper1010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S. Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Danish press describes that Gollob and his manager made excuses to Nicki at the press conference after last saturday. Take a look on the 2007 Bydgoszcz final. Nicki and Gollob has a thing with that 4th turn See you Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Gollob will receive a Oscar nominee.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ashie Smashy Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Why does he have to be banned is all I am saying as that is stupid beyond belief and anyone who thinks robbing the paying public of a talent like Gollob is bonkers. Not the worst excess on a track I have seen and the fuss being made is a bit OTT. Yeah it was utterly stupid so take some of his sponsors money and tell him off. Because like in every other sport, you have to pay the consequences for your actions, and this action of Gollob's was of the most unsporting ever, and if he is allowed to get away with it, then another rider will do it in the future and that could change the outcome of a meeting or a season. People are missing the point about the thread, does not matter if Nikki was at fault or Gollob, the point is Gollob parked his bike on the track in protest mid race - stupid beyond belief and as a Gollob fan I am disappointed. A fine will mean nothing to Gollob, but a race susension will, so a one or two race suspension will still him a chance to qualify for a GP semi, but make him think twice about such actions again. This is also not so much about punishing Gollob, but ensuring other riders don't do the same to manipulate a race in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyluck Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Because like in every other sport, you have to pay the consequences for your actions. What consequence is Steele going to suffer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 What consequence is Steele going to suffer? For calling an incident correctly???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Because like in every other sport, you have to pay the consequences for your actions, and this action of Gollob's was of the most unsporting ever, and if he is allowed to get away with it, then another rider will do it in the future and that could change the outcome of a meeting or a season. People are missing the point about the thread, does not matter if Nikki was at fault or Gollob, the point is Gollob parked his bike on the track in protest mid race - stupid beyond belief and as a Gollob fan I am disappointed. I am in no way condoning what Tomek did, but it still seems like an overreaction on here. I have seen countless races where riders have deliberately left their bikes on the track, and in much more dangerous positions than Tomek did, in order to get a race stopped. Would it have been more acceptable if Tomek had just laid his bike down at the next corner and walked away from it leaving it mid turn? Far more dangerous but also far more common! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ashie Smashy Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 What consequence is Steele going to suffer? If he made a mistake, then that is all it is, half the people on here can not agree on the decision so hardly fair to call for a ref to be punished for a racing incident. What Gollob did was NOT a racing incident, it was childish, unsporting, pathetic and a slap on the wrist is not strong enough punishment. It is akin to a footballer refusing to go off when shown a red and sitting down mid pitch, he would be suspended for more than 3 games, even if the ref had got it wrong in the initial incident! In F1 Nelson Piqet Jnr slammed his car in the wall on purpose and as been banned. Is Speedway the only sport where the riders are allowed to ignore the rules and referee decisions? Don't get me wrong, I love to watch Gollob race but what he did was deliberate and unsporting and he deserves a race or two ban. He is good enough to still reach the semi final with a 1 or 2 race ban anyway, but it might make him and other riders think twice before acting like pathetic childish brats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) It is akin to a footballer refusing to go off when shown a red and sitting down mid pitch, he would be suspended for more than 3 games, even if the ref had got it wrong in the initial incident! In F1 Nelson Piqet Jnr slammed his car in the wall on purpose and as been banned. I think you will find that Nelson Piquet actually received no punishment at all. As for the comparison with a footballer refusing to leave the pitch after being red carded...I don't think it's anything like it. The speedway equivalent would be a rider coming back to the start line and refusing to leave the track after being excluded. Tomek hadn't suffered any punishment from the ref at the time he chucked his toys out the pram. Edited October 25, 2009 by HenryW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samthepalaceman2 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I can see Sayfutdinov turning into another Nicki Pedersen as throughout the series, Emil has produced some ruthless overtakes and he proved he has a little temper in the British GP. I would say Emil is more talented but some of their riding attributes are very simimlar, he's gonna be someone you love or you hate, just like Nicki and Gollob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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