shazzybird Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 It'd be empty if you were! Hefty fine yes ..... ban him no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Jeez, that took forever to get through those pages! 1. on all counts I felt Gollob was in the wrong, he leant into Nicki coming into first bend gave Nicki no chance to turn the bike! He left the gap for Nicki to aim for, then tried to cover his mistake and was too late there! However, the worst thing was parking his bike on the track and stropping off! No doubt the Polish Authorities will let this pass as he is still their "GOD" but something needs to be done, I still do not feel his so called apology after the meeting was actually aimed at him leaving the bike on the track the way he did! 2. Tony Steele made all the correct decisions tonight and even when he held the tapes for longer than was expected it was due to riders moving at the start, he would have made it clear beforehand exactly what he would do so they knew what to expect! 3. The GP Season is over for another year - let us just Congratulate Jason on his win and move on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 So we let riders get away with what ever they want and only punish them AFTER someone is injured or killed. What a great place speedway would be with you making the rules. I'd like you to take the comment back please, anyone that knows me and my family will understand why here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'd like you to take the comment back please, anyone that knows me and my family will understand why here. There is no need for me to take that comment back, it was in no way offensive to anyone at all. You are making the point that no one was injured so he shouldnt be banned. Im asking you should we let riders away with what ever they want until we have a major accident and then act on it. Speedway is dangerous enough as it is without pig ignorant riders making it even more so with petulant and immature and down right disrepectful behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Red Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm in no way condoning what Gollob did, because it was disrespectful to his fellow riders. However, how dangerous was it really, he did park his bike on the inside of the track, in fact it was behind the point where the start marshall stood to show the 1 lap & chequered flag, so not likely to be in anyones way. The way that some people on here are reacting, (ban him for the season ) you would have thought he had parked it in the middle of the track on the racing line. He needs a fine, and possibly a suspended sentence. For me, I would make him apologise to all his fellow competitors (especially those in the race). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 However, how dangerous was it really, he did park his bike on the inside of the track, in fact it was behind the point where the start marshall stood to show the 1 lap & chequered flag, so not likely to be in anyones way. The position you have described, is the preferred position the FIM officials want a rider to stop his bike, if not under power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 There was a rider once (cant remember the name off the top off my head sorry) He hit the fence and bounced down into the centre green where he hit a stationary tractor and unfortunately was killed. Anything could have happened with Gollobs bike. Hindsight is a great thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff... Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 There was a rider once (cant remember the name off the top off my head sorry) He hit the fence and bounced down into the centre green where he hit a stationary tractor and unfortunately was killed. Anything could have happened with Gollobs bike. Hindsight is a great thing. Stuart Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 There was a rider once (cant remember the name off the top off my head sorry) He hit the fence and bounced down into the centre green where he hit a stationary tractor and unfortunately was killed. Anything could have happened with Gollobs bike. Hindsight is a great thing. IMO the safety side of centre greens needs to be sorted, start line girls, track announcers, photographers, medical staff, start marshals, flag marshals are all potential victims. On some of the Sky meetings it looks like there's more people on the infield than in the crowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Stuart Shirley Thanks very much Jeff his name escaped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 speedway meeting are dangerous, we need certain obstacles in order to run the meeting ie, start Marshall checkered flags ect, what we dont need is a Professional rider acting like a spoilt school child and leaving their Bike in any place other than off the track. Tomas was a silly boy and I'm sure he now feels a right idiot however the authorities do need to take action so as to show riders that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated. I suggest a heavy fine and a suspended 2 meeting ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 speedway meeting are dangerous, we need certain obstacles in order to run the meeting ie, start Marshall checkered flags ect, what we dont need is a Professional rider acting like a spoilt school child and leaving their Bike in any place other than off the track. Tomas was a silly boy and I'm sure he now feels a right idiot however the authorities do need to take action so as to show riders that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated. I suggest a heavy fine and a suspended 2 meeting ban Not just any meetings though GP rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austrian hammer Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm in no way condoning what Gollob did, because it was disrespectful to his fellow riders. For me, I would make him apologise to all his fellow competitors (especially those in the race). I'd guess that he probably already did, on the night, as he certainly sounded a lot mellower by the time it came to his rostrum interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticboy Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 The position you have described, is the preferred position the FIM officials want a rider to stop his bike, if not under power. Surely this would be "off" the track completely? I admit, i'm not up to date on the rulebook, but what Gollob did caused the stoppage of the race. if he wanted to protest, he could quite easily have pulled off the track completely, then spoken to the referee to lodge a formal protest. He did what he did deliberately, and with forethought. No matter what happened in that heat, Gollob's actions introduced a possible danger to other riders by leaving his bike on the dirt. That cannot, and should not, be allowed. No matter what Pedersen did, it did not leave the bike unridable, Gollob continued around the bend before ditching it, he had half a lap on that motorcycle which was more than enough to place it where every other rider does when they drop out of a heat. On the centre field. Gollob deliberately put his bike in a position where he knew it would interfere with the heat and cause a re-run. Whether he hoped to be in the re-run, or just wanted to punish Pedersen who was in 2nd, it was a example of bad sportsmanship which deserves some measure of punishment. Whether this is in the form of a fine, a suspension, a GP ban (Personally, I think a monetary penalty and a suspended GP ban for one year)is probably the best way to go. Pedersen's actions should have absolutely no bearing on this. What Gollob did was unsporting, dangerous and clearly breached the rules of the GP speedway event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Im sure a fine wont hurt Gollobs pockets I imagine that his backers would pay the fine, also cant see him been banned either even tho personally I think he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Maybe its time you found a new sport. That is a disgraceful attitude. Gollob the big ugly Pole should be banned from the next GP series and made to hand back all prize money made from last nights GP. He is a utter disgrace to the sport. And you are an utter disgrace to the country you come from. Change your drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 And you are an utter disgrace to the country you come from. Change your drugs. dont stop at that one maybe also quote the post AFTER that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Gollob was a bit daft true as Nicki did nothing that was not being done by riders desperate for a top 8 spot and was a complete innocent that time but it wasn emotional meeting for him so understandable. hell Nicki P is no angel either and has put himself about this year usually with him falling on his ass and blaming the other guy. To Ban Gollob would be insane even for a single race. There is little enough entertainment in this sport with poor track preperation, loonie tune rules and refs as stupid as Steele was on saturday. They have a chance to put four entertainers in for 2010 and prepare tracks worthy of racers so banning the most entertaining rider they have would be an act of utter stupidity. It's not he first time I have seen a bike deliberately left on a track and no one demanded bans then. Sure it's stupid. Sure it's petulant. But it's a high octane adrenalin fueled sport so daft things happen. Nobody died. Nobody got hurt thankfully. The race got stopped eventually and life went on. A GP series without Gollob is an inevitability but to go looking for that shows speedway fans are even dafter than Gollob was on saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Gollob was a bit daft true as Nicki did nothing that was not being done by riders desperate for a top 8 spot and was a complete innocent that time but it wasn emotional meeting for him so understandable. hell Nicki P is no angel either and has put himself about this year usually with him falling on his ass and blaming the other guy. To Ban Gollob would be insane even for a single race. There is little enough entertainment in this sport with poor track preperation, loonie tune rules and refs as stupid as Steele was on saturday. They have a chance to put four entertainers in for 2010 and prepare tracks worthy of racers so banning the most entertaining rider they have would be an act of utter stupidity. It's not he first time I have seen a bike deliberately left on a track and no one demanded bans then. Sure it's stupid. Sure it's petulant. But it's a high octane adrenalin fueled sport so daft things happen. Nobody died. Nobody got hurt thankfully. The race got stopped eventually and life went on. A GP series without Gollob is an inevitability but to go looking for that shows speedway fans are even dafter than Gollob was on saturday. so how should he be punished then? surely you aren't suggesting that this should slide by without any action at all? validate something like this and it gives the green light for all riders to do this, and of course for one of them to push the boundaries even more...... although as has been documented, they were probably out to get Michael Lee at the time, he suffered a major ban for riding the wrong way around the track...... sounds bad but the reality was that he was doing this on the white line and away from the racing line.... compare the width of a bike to the length... which is how tomasz parked his bike, and you have some understanding of how serious it 'could' be for Tomasz politically I guess the best way for all concerned is a fine ... of which no doubt his sponsors would pick up...... point made and punishment received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Not saying what the punishment should be.....but going by pandorum's post should we only punish riders who don't entertain?Hancock is ok to punish,Nicki not.Lindgren,kick him out.Bjerre doesn't talk to anyone.Ban him for a start Edited October 20, 2009 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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