ladyluck Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Any suspension should be for Tony Steele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Any suspension should be for Tony Steele. See what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Any suspension should be for Tony Steele. Â So Gollob was totally innocent and well within his right to put riders in unnecessary danger? Â Maybe its time you found a new sport. That is a disgraceful attitude. Gollob the big ugly Pole should be banned from the next GP series and made to hand back all prize money made from last nights GP. He is a utter disgrace to the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Gollob's action was unforgivable and he should receive a ban, in my opinion. However, what I do find interesting about this thread and the many others like it, is that there are 101 different opinions about who was to blame for a racing incident. It was Pedersen's fault; no it wasn't it was Gollob's fault; no it wasn't it was a racing incident; no it wasn't the track was to blame; the first incident was Pedersen's fault but the second was Gollob's fault; the first incident was Gollob's fault but the second was Pedersen's fault etc. etc.  And then you get the people who always blame the referee for making the wrong decision. Well, if we can't agree amongst ourselves what the right decision is after much reflection and reviewing, just imagine how hard it is for the referee having to make a quick decision on the night. Not having seen the incident in question I can't comment, other than to say that unless you want total anarchy all riders (and fans) must abide by the ref's decision, even when they screw it up. In cricket, football and rugby, for example, players are fined or banned for any display of petulance or dissent. In speedway you might argue riders have got away with too much for too long. Gollob must know that parking his bike on the track was an unacceptable action and that a ban will result. Ultimately, the cause was frustration - the fact that he knows in his heart of hearts he will never be world champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffieldscot Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 So Gollob was totally innocent and well within his right to put riders in unnecessary danger? Maybe its time you found a new sport. That is a disgraceful attitude. Gollob the big ugly Pole should be banned from the next GP series and made to hand back all prize money made from last nights GP. He is a utter disgrace to the sport.   Admittedly Snyper, his actions last night were unsavory to say the least, regarding parking his bike on the track which was a stupid and dangerous thing to do, I agree. But have a heart me old mate. You want to take all of his prize money away and ban him from the series altogether Now if you were the race director looking back over the 11 rounds this year, you would also need to ban Emil & Scotty for the "rumble in the jungle in Cardiff" and various other riders for taking opponents out There would be nobody left to watch mate  Have a heart, we want to see them all strutting their stuff in next years GP Series & we can wax lyrical on the controversial events yet still to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Admittedly Snyper, his actions last night were unsavory to say the least, regarding parking his bike on the track which was a stupid and dangerous thing to do, I agree. But have a heart me old mate. You want to take all of his prize money away and ban him from the series altogether Now if you were the race director looking back over the 11 rounds this year, you would also need to ban Emil & Scotty for the "rumble in the jungle in Cardiff" and various other riders for taking opponents out There would be nobody left to watch mate  Have a heart, we want to see them all strutting their stuff in next years GP Series & we can wax lyrical on the controversial events yet still to come  Emil and Scotty didnt endanger any other rider. They race was over and they were heading back to the pits.  Ok maybe not a whole series but he should receive a hefty fine and a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffieldscot Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Emil and Scotty didnt endanger any other rider. They race was over and they were heading back to the pits. Â Ok maybe not a whole series but he should receive a hefty fine and a ban. Â Â Now that's better. I always knew that once the red mist clears you can be spot on with your views A bit like myself really I think that a hefty fine may well be coming Tomasz's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Now that's better. I always knew that once the red mist clears you can be spot on with your views A bit like myself really I think that a hefty fine may well be coming Tomasz's way. Â It would be worse for Speedways image if his actions are overlooked as "heat of the moment" than what it would to have a rider fined and banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffieldscot Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) It would be worse for Speedways image if his actions are overlooked as "heat of the moment" than what it would to have a rider fined and banned. Â Â Agree entirely, they must be seen to be consistent as rider contempt is bad for the image of speedway Edited October 18, 2009 by sheffieldscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Second restart - Even thou im not a NP fan, nothing wrong with that, Gollob was beaten and knew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 As said by Ermolenko and Havelock, if Gollob wasn't such a good motorbike rider he would have fallen under Nicki's challenge on the 4th bend and, more than likely Nicki would have been excluded. Â Tomasz knew he had little or no chance of overhauling Crump tonight and was delighted to finish runner-up in the overall World Championship, so I am surprised that he then had his head messed up in the semi-final gate pick and went for blue rather than red. He is always under intense pressure in Poland, but he should have been more relaxed and enjoying himself by then. Â I agree that Gollob shouldn't have parked his bike where he did, but I'm sure he feels that you should not have to fall off a bike to obtain an exclusion. He was very contrite and apolgetic afterwards and talk of a season's ban is just plain ridiculous. There is little enough entertainment in the SGP these days without excluding the most naturally gifted motorbike rider in the field. Personally I hope it doesn't come to that. Â Well done Jason, you surprised me this season. A worthy world champion. Congrats to Tomasz - again proving, maybe, that he is the best not to win a world championship. A great first season from Sayfutdinov, let's hope Chris Holder can do similarly next season. Well done Rune making into the top 8 again, a really nice bloke and I hope he will be back in the SGP next season. But where for British hopes and does anybody merit a wildcard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 .......if Gollob wasn't such a good motorbike rider he would have fallen........ Err it wasnt much of a pressure move, minimal contact if that, TG tried top play for the call and didnt get it. Agree that ref's should not think you have to fall to get an exclusion. Â ........SGP these days without excluding the most naturally gifted motorbike rider in the field. Personally I hope it doesn't come to that. Â If he was TG would have been WC many times now, if the tracks don't suit his style/engine then he doesn't do much simple as, kinda belies your quote don't you think. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 As he has throughout his career, the Team Gollob have been involved in some unsavoury incidents over the years [especially in their time at BigJosh] but the PZM have never done anything. So i guess he expects things to go his way in Poland, for all his ability on a bike, TG just doesn't have the mental toughness to win when things are not in his favour.  Exactly Dekker, never has never will!  Gollob wants everything his own way and clearly spat his dummy out. I wouldn't ban him though that would just give him another excuse to use when he doesnt become the 2010 World Champion  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 As said by Ermolenko and Havelock, if Gollob wasn't such a good motorbike rider he would have fallen under Nicki's challenge on the 4th bend and, more than likely Nicki would have been excluded. What planet are you on? Â Even if Nicki was excluded i still don't think it was the right decision.And Gollobs behaviour is unexcusable.Terrible attitude from such a seasoned campaigner.Realised all was lost and spat out his dummy........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Pedersens fault IMO check out the view at 2.23mins clearly shows it. Gollobs been punished for staying on his bike, if he went down surely it would have been Pedersen excluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 What planet are you on? Â Even if Nicki was excluded i still don't think it was the right decision.And Gollobs behaviour is unexcusable.Terrible attitude from such a seasoned campaigner.Realised all was lost and spat out his dummy........ Â Â In other words, if Gollob had thrown himself and the bike down on purpose, cheating I think thats called, then he would have got the decision. It wasn't that bad a contact, as he was able to stay on the bike. 2 ex world champions condoning cheating then. Say no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 At the end of the day does really matter who fault it was ? the bottom line is Gollob put his bike on the track causeing danger to other riders that is not in question . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTDragons Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Gollob the big ugly Pole should be banned from the next GP series and made to hand back all prize money made from last nights GP. He is a utter disgrace to the sport. Gollob is one of, if not, the most entertaining rider in the GP series. Snyper, stop your snivelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Gollob is one of, if not, the most entertaining rider in the GP series. Snyper, stop your snivelling  No he isnt. He trails at the back on many tracks because he cant get the bike set up. He is ignorant and arrogant and to be honest i wouldnt care if he was never in another GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTDragons Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 No he isnt. He trails at the back on many tracks because he cant get the bike set up. He is ignorant and arrogant and to be honest i wouldnt care if he was never in another GP Yes he is. At least put your personal grudge against him aside to admit that, cos I'm afraid Gollob will be back in 2010 to bug you further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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