Snyper1010 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Looking at the replay it seems Nicki did his usual "Take the man not the ball" trick. Did you see the size of the gap that nicki actually went for? As Spook said Gollob made a mistake and tried getting back down onto the line but Nicki had already moved into the gap left for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Did you see the size of the gap that nicki actually went for? As Spook said Gollob made a mistake and tried getting back down onto the line but Nicki had already moved into the gap left for him. Just commenting on my view of the first restart, Snyperhighhohighhoitsofftoworkwego. You seem to be talking about the second restart, you Hairy-legged Hibernian Hoon. Geez it was peaceful without ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I thought that Pedersen was lucky to get away with it tonight. Having said that, no matter what you feel has been done to you, to leave your bike on the track with the other 3 riders still racing at speed was at least stupid and at worst homicidal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) Nicki passed him fairly. So smacking a riders front wheel causing him to lose control is fair? Pedersen was out of order in the first rerun of the race. He should have been excluded then but as usual Pedersen rode the man not the track. Edited October 17, 2009 by Midnight_Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just commenting on my view of the first restart, Snyperhighhohighhoitsofftoworkwego. You seem to be talking about the second restart, you Hairy-legged Hibernian Hoon. Geez it was peaceful without ya! Oi skippy, i aint a Hibee lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper1010 Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 The first incident was a complete accident Nicki picked up and shot across the bend he had no idea he was going to take someone with him. I dont think he can be blamed for that incident. The second i can see why Nicki went for the move. Remembering how much this "blue groove" was mentioned and how there was little to no pace available off that groove. Nicki saw Gollob make a mistake and drift off it and HAD to take that oppertunity to pass. Gollob then corrected the mistake and got back on the groove where he found Nicki coming under him. As many of you know i am a Hans Andersen fan and therefore am no fan of Nickis'. However there is no excuse for what Gollob then went onto do. My take on it copied from the Chatzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Second restart - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusthepom Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 seems crumpy used his head,let those other two go for it. ozzie ozzie ozzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartolus Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Weak referee? Tony Steele is regarded as the best in the World by many riders, fans and officials so dont be so silly. What Gollob did cannot be excused for what happened during racing. He should be banned and fined. It made me laugh . Even Polish GP referees are better. Hi is favouring N.P for years- almost the same way as Olsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Just heard there will be a rule change for 2010, all bikes will be fitted with Indicators so that a leading rider can inform the rider behind him that he has made a balls up and intends to cut back down to the racing line, thus telling the rider behind not to go for the gap that he just left him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 So smacking a riders front wheel causing him to lose control is fair? Pedersen was out of order in the first rerun of the race. He should have been excluded then but as usual Pedersen rode the man not the track. he did not. It was Gollob who smashed into Nicki on Both occasions. 1st start Gollob went in towards Nicki, smahes into Nicki and then tried to lean all over him but failed and Nicki took him wide. 2nd Start Gollob had the 2nd place but went too wide and a gap occurred on the inside Nicki moved into and when Tomek tried to close the door Nicki was already to far infront of Gollob who ran into Nicki backwheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 he did not. It was Gollob who smashed into Nicki on Both occasions. 1st start Gollob went in towards Nicki, smahes into Nicki and then tried to lean all over him but failed and Nicki took him wide. 2nd Start Gollob had the 2nd place but went too wide and a gap occurred on the inside Nicki moved into and when Tomek tried to close the door Nicki was already to far infront of Gollob who ran into Nicki backwheel. Not sure about your first statement, I saw it as TG tried to peg NP down, but NP got a bit to much drive which straightened him up thus taking TG wide, personally I think the ref should of excluded NP for that as NP was clearly the reason which caused the stoppage, however the ref ruled all 4 back. Totally agree with you 2nd statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Cast you minds back a couple of seasons or so, Gollob did to Nicki, exactly what Nicki did to Gollob, on this very track....but as Nicki was on the receiving end....no one really cared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Not sure about your first statement, I saw it as TG tried to peg NP down, but NP got a bit to much drive which straightened him up thus taking TG wide, personally I think the ref should of excluded NP for that as NP was clearly the reason which caused the stoppage, however the ref ruled all 4 back. Totally agree with you 2nd statement. Nicki was on the inside line when Gollob smashed into him then Nicki replied by taking Gollob wide. If Gollob had kept his line without going in towards Nicki the incident would not have happened there fore Gollob is the cause of the stoppage as he was the one who initiated the situation in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Gollobs action were disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 he did not. It was Gollob who smashed into Nicki on Both occasions. 1st start Gollob went in towards Nicki, smahes into Nicki and then tried to lean all over him but failed and Nicki took him wide. Totally agree, not forgetting of course that Pedersen also had to avoid Holta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Gollob's action was unforgivable and he should receive a ban, in my opinion. However, what I do find interesting about this thread and the many others like it, is that there are 101 different opinions about who was to blame for a racing incident. It was Pedersen's fault; no it wasn't it was Gollob's fault; no it wasn't it was a racing incident; no it wasn't the track was to blame; the first incident was Pedersen's fault but the second was Gollob's fault; the first incident was Gollob's fault but the second was Pedersen's fault etc. etc. And then you get the people who always blame the referee for making the wrong decision. Well, if we can't agree amongst ourselves what the right decision is after much reflection and reviewing, just imagine how hard it is for the referee having to make a quick decision on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 of course, because it's Gollob, because he's 2nd and because the reaction of Polish fans & teams would be hard for the FIM to bear, he'll get away with a slap on the wrist and a small fine.As he has throughout his career, the Team Gollob have been involved in some unsavoury incidents over the years [especially in their time at BigJosh] but the PZM have never done anything. So i guess he expects things to go his way in Poland, for all his ability on a bike, TG just doesn't have the mental toughness to win when things are not in his favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 .......NP got a bit to much drive which straightened him up thus taking TG wide......As NP always does due to poor technique, remember him wiping Jagus out when NP "picked up drive" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbramble Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I'm not a Nicki fan but I was pleased he won last night. He has had a nightmare GP season, not all his own doing, and it was good to see him back to winning ways. The series would be poorer without him. Gollob deserves to get a huge fine and a ban for what he did last night. To put his fellow competitors safety in danger in that way was disgraceful, just because he didn't like a bit of hard riding. Pedersen has had worse this season, but hasn't done anything as irresponsible as that. A great rider he may be, but being sporting goes with that label, and he showed none of it last night. My new villain for 2010. Track was rubbish from the off. One line, blue groove nonsense, we expect so much more from that place. Wildcard pick for Harris? Do me a favour. Why waste a pick on a rider who clearly isn't worthy. Crump the champion. Well deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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