frenchy Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me with match details for the following meeting from 1980 (match details are missing, or points only given, in the 1980 handbook) ? All Inter-League & National League 4 Team results (except those involving Hull). National League Pairs qualifying round Any 4 team meetings (again except those involving Hull) KO Cup between Coventry & Birmingham on 31/5 abandoned after 2 heats League match between Leicester & Cradley on 16/9 abandoned after 6 heats League match between Sheffield & Cradley on 26/6 abandoned after 9 heats League match between Wolves & Halifax on 5/9 abandoned after 3 heats Scunthorpe & Stoke on 11/8 abandoned after 3 heats Oxford & Middlesbrough on 6/7 abandoned after 9 heats Weymouth & Oxford on 10/6 abandoned after 3 heats (Cup match) Glasgow & Ellesmere Port on 7/9 abandoned after 1 heat Canterbury & Stoke on 31/5 abandoned after 7 heats Boston & Oxford on 22/6 abandoned after 1 heat Middlesbrough & Rye House on 5/6 abandoned after 10 heats Crayford & Peterborough on 10/6 abandoned after 9 heats (Cup match) Crayford & Stoke on 12/8 abandoned after 6 heats Triangular match at Crayford between the Kestrels, Canterbury & Rye House on the 16/9 Any help gratefully accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) I wonder if anyone can help me with match details for the following meetings from 1980 (match details are missing, or points only given, in the 1980 handbook) ? Middlesbrough & Rye House on 5/6 abandoned after 10 heats I can do this one for you when I'm next home of an evening so if you do not mind waiting a few days (due to me being at Lakeside tonight and Swindon tomorrow) I'll do just that. As I recall the score was 32v28. Edited October 14, 2009 by WembleyLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I can do this one for you when I'm next home of an evening so if you do not mind waiting a few days (due to me being at Lakeside tonight and Swindon tomorrow) I'll do just that. As I recall the score was 32v28. Yes please and you are correct regarding the score too. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofdiamonds Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Coventry v Birmingham British League 31 May abd rain Heat 1 Olsen Bastable Busk Kudrna 64.0 5-1 Heat 2 Molyneux Hawkins Jensen Grahame ef 69.4 4-2 9-3 Sheffield v Cradley BL June 26 abd rain Heat 1 Wilson Sampson White Penhall ef 68.4 4-2 Heat 2 Stead Teromaa Featherby Lohmann ef 69.4 3-3 Heat 3 Collins Wyer Kroese Grahame 68.6 3-3 Heat 4 Broadbelt Gundersen Featherby Lohmann 69.6 3-3 Heat 5 Wyer Penhall Sampson Kroeze 68.6 3-3 Heat 6 Wilson White Gundersen Teromaa 69.4 5-1 Heat 7 Grahame Broadbelt Collins Stead 69.6 2-4 Heat 8 Sampson White Featherby Stead 70.0 2-4 Heat 9 Wyer Gundersen Kroeze Teromaa 71.6 4-2 29-25 Wolverhampton v Halifax British League 5 Sept floodlight failure following crash in heat4 Heat 1 Bastable Carter McKeon Burton 62.6 3-3 Heat 2 Pendlebury Pyszny Crockett Cribb ef 65.1 1-5 Heat 3 Carter Janke Eide Morton 64.9 1-5 5-13 Scunthorpe v Stoke National League 12 August abd rain Heat 1 rerun Teager Stead Burton ef Browning f/x 77.7 3-2 Heat 2 rerun Wilding Mortimer Lightfoot Jeffcoate f/x 77.9 2-4 Heat 3 White Sawyer North Woffinden f/r 72.1 3-3 8-9 Oxford v Middlesbrough National League 6 July abd rain Heat 1 Havelock Wilcock Perks Bowen 63.5 1-5 Heat 2 Dixon Reading Passey Crockett 63.8 1-5 Heat 3 Courtney Hack Pusey Ackroyd 62.8 2-4 Heat 4 rerun Harrison Spink Crockett Dixon f/x 63.1 4-2 Heat 5 Wilcock Ackroyd Hack Havelock 62.7 3-3 Heat 6 Spink Harrison Perks Reading 62.8 3-3 Heat 7 Courtney Harrison Pusey Crockett 63.4 2-4 Heat 8 Havelock Dixon Bowen Crockett nf 67.5 1-5 Heat 9 rerun Spink Ackroyd Hack Dixon f/x 67.0 3-3 20-34 If this is ok I'll add further details when I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) No Swindon tonight so here are the Middlesbrough v Rye House details:- Middlesbrough 32 1 Steve Wilcock 2* 2 2 = 6 + 1 2 Brian Havelock 3 F 2 = 5 3 Mike Spink 1* 1 = 2 + 1 4 Geoff Pusey 0 2* 1 = 3 + 1 5 Mark Courtney 3 3 3 = 9 6 Martin Dixon 3 2 0 1*= 6 + 1 7 Bernie Collier 1 0 = 1 Rye House 28 1 Karl Fiala 1e/f EX = 1 2 Peter Tarrant EX 1 1 = 2 3 Bob Garrad 3 3 2 = 8 4 Kelvin Mullarkey 2 2* F = 4 + 1 5 Kevin Smith 1*3 3 = 7 + 1 6 Andy Fines F 1 = 1 7 Ashley Pullen 2 0 3 0 = 5 Heat 1 Havelock, Wilcock, Fiala(f awd), Tarrant (f ex) 70.0 5 - 1 Heat 2 Dixon, Pullen ,Collier, Fines (f) 67.2 4 - 2 / 9 - 3 Heat 3 Courtney, Mullarkey, Smith, Pusey 66.4 3 - 3 / 12 - 6 Heat 4 Garrad, Dixon, Spink, Pullen 67.0 3 - 3 / 15 - 9 Heat 5 Courtney, Pusey, Tarrant, Fiala(e/f) 67.6 5 - 1 / 20 -10 Heat 6 Garrad, Wilcock, Fines, Havelock(f) 67.6 2 -4 / 22 - 14 Heat 7 Smith, Mullarkey, Spink, Dixon 66.4 1 - 5 / 23 - 19 Heat 8 Pullen, Havelock, Tarrant, Collier 68.4 2 -4 / 25 - 23 Heat 9 Courtney, Garrad, Pusey, Pullen 65.8 4 - 2 / 29 - 25 Heat 10 Smith, Wilcock, Dixon, Mullarkey(f) 66.8 3 -3 / 32 - 28 Heat 11 Fiala(f/ex) heat not rerun due to waterlogged track! I went to this one on the Rye House coach as part of a northern trip with Workington the next night to follow. Edited October 16, 2009 by WembleyLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve19620 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Some more info for you Leicester V Cradley (Midland Cup 16/9 - Abandoned after heat 6) 1: Penhall, P.Collins, Cook, Titman 65.1 1-5 2: Hack, Lawson, Clark, Courtney (rtd) 66.2 1-5 (2-10) 3: L.Collins, Gramstad, Teromaa, Grahame 65.3 5-1 (7-11) 4: Gramstad, Gundersen, Hack, Clark (f) 65.3 3-3 (10-14) 5: Penhall, L.Collins, P.Collins, Courtney 64.4 2-4 (12-18) 6: Titman, Gundersen, Cook, Lawson (rtd) 67.5 4-2 (16-20) Glasgow V Ellesmere Port (NL 7/9 - Abandoned after heat 1) 1: Lawson, K.McKinna, Ellams,Monaghan, Jackson (ns) Time n/k Canterbury V Stoke (NL 31/5 - Abandoned after heat 7) 1: Ferreira, Burton, Piddock, N.Evitts 72.8 4-2 2: Kent, Sawyer, North, Brice 72.6 3-3 (7-5) 3: MacLean, Stead, Hubbard, Reynolds (rtd) 1-5 (8-10) 4: Kennett, Boyle, Sawyer, Brice 74.4 3-3 (11-13) 5: Burton, Hubbard, N.Evitts, Reynolds (rtd) 74.0 2-4 (13-17) 6: Ferreira, North, Boyle, Piddock 74.8 3-3 (16-20) 7: Kennett, MacLean, Stead, Brice 77.2 3-3 (19-23) Boston V Oxford (NL 22/6 - Match abandoned following a crash in the original staging of heat 1 which was not not rerun!) Middlesbrough V Rye House (NL 5/6 - Abandoned after heat 10) 1: Havelock, Wilcock, Fiala (fell, awarded), Tarrant (f/exc) 70.0 5-1 2: Dixon, Pullen, Collier, Fines (f/exc) 67.2 4-2 (9-3) 3: Courtney, Mullarkey, Smith, Pusey 66.4 3-3 (12-6) 4: Garrad, Dixon, Spink, Pullen 67.0 3-3 (15-9) 5: Courtney, Pusey, Tarrant, Fiala (ef) 67.6 5-1 (20-10) 6: Garrad, Wilcock, Fines, Havelock (f) 67.6 2-4 (22-14) 7: Smith, Mullarkey, Spink, Dixon 66.4 1-5 (23-19) 8: Pullen, Havelock, Tarrant, Collier 68.4 2-4 (25-23) 9: Courtney, Garrad, Pusey, Pullen 65.8 4-2 (29-25) 10: Smith, Wilcock, Dixon, Mullarkey (f) 66.8 3-3 (32-28) Crayford V Peterborough (KOC 10/6 - Abandoned after heat 9) 1: Woods, Naylor, Hines, Buck, Couzens (exc Tapes) 57.2 5-1 2: Pither, Buck, Pepper, Johns (f) 59.6 3-3 (8-4) 3: Rumsey, Etheridge, Greer, Fisher 59.0 5-1 (13-5) 4: Flatman, Naylor, Johns, Pepper 59.8 3-3 (16-8) 5: Hines, Etheridge, Couzens, Rumsey (rtd) 60.0 2-4 (18-12) 6: Rumsey, Woods, Flatman, Buck 59.2 5-1 (23-13) 7: Naylor, Greer, Johns, Fisher 59.2 4-2 (27-15) 8: Woods, Flatman, Greer, Pither 58.0 3-3 (30-18) 9: Rumsey, Flatman, Etheridge, Buck (f) 59.0 4-2 (34-20) Crayford V SCUNTHORPE not Stoke ! (NL 12/8 Abandoned after heat 6) 1: Woods, Johns, Browning, Teager 58.6 5-1 2: Etheridge, Pither, Mortimer, Jeffcoate (F/exc) 59.2 5-1 (10-2) 3: Rumsey, Sage, White, Woffinden 60.2 5-1 (15-3) 4: Naylor, Etheridge, Jeffcoate, Allott 60.8 5-1 (20-4) 5: Rumsey, Sage, Browning, Teager 61.6 5-1 (25-5) 6: Johns, Allott, Woods (F/rem), Mortimer 69.2 (29-7) Crayford V Canterbury V Rye House (3TT 16/9 - Abandoned after heat 5) 1: Etheridge, Pritchard, Woods (f/exc), Ferreira (exc 2 Mins), Summerfield (exc 2 mins) 70.4 2: Kent, Garrad, Tarrant, Brice (f/exc) 66.6 3: Naylor, Johns, Fiala, Pullen (rtd) 66.4 4: Sage, Rumsey, Kennett, Dolman (rtd) 64.8 5: Ferreira, Smith, Mullarkey, Summerfield 66.8 I think this lot will keep you busy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Many thanks guys for all your help much appreciated. One other thing, which I forgot to put in the original post, is details of the Long Eaton v Berwick match which was declared void (44-34). All I've got is due to fuel issues but anyone know more about it ? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve19620 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Many thanks guys for all your help much appreciated. One other thing, which I forgot to put in the original post, is details of the Long Eaton v Berwick match which was declared void (44-34). All I've got is due to fuel issues but anyone know more about it ? Thanks again. I will get you the heat details and check out the reason why the match was declared void later this week. Steve Edited October 20, 2009 by steve19620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofdiamonds Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Wemouth v Oxford 10 June 1980 - KO Cup 2nd round 2nd leg - abandonded rain. Heat 1 Perks Yeates DeKok Handley 67.2 3-3 Heat 2 Crockett Bowen Wigg Tulloch ef 68.4 1-5 4-8 Heat 3 Hack Corradine Pusey Ackroyd 68.8 3-3 7-11 Woodward and Harrison dnr. That seems to be the lot Frenchy, apart from the Long Eaton that Stevie is checking. As Long Eaton were not racing in 1980, what year was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Wemouth v Oxford 10 June 1980 - KO Cup 2nd round 2nd leg - abandonded rain. Heat 1 Perks Yeates DeKok Handley 67.2 3-3 Heat 2 Crockett Bowen Wigg Tulloch ef 68.4 1-5 4-8 Heat 3 Hack Corradine Pusey Ackroyd 68.8 3-3 7-11 Woodward and Harrison dnr. That seems to be the lot Frenchy, apart from the Long Eaton that Stevie is checking. As Long Eaton were not racing in 1980, what year was it? Many thanks Jack for the info & doh (kicks self) ! should have said Nottingham not Long Eaton. Apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve19620 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) As promised here's the heat results for the Nottingham V Berwick void match raced 3 September 1980 Nottingham (44): M.Sampson 11, G.McDonald 11, C.Featherby 8, S.Sant 6, M.Collins 4, P.Bacon 3, S.Mildoon 1 Berwick (34): W.Brown 11, S.McDermott 8, M.Fullerton 6, M.Caroline 4, N.Close 3, R.Grant 2, B.Saunders 0 01: Brown, Sampson, Collins, Grant 66.1 02: Caroline, Bacon, Mildoon, Saunders (f/xc) 68.1 03: Featherby, Sant, Fullerton, Close 67.6 04: McDonald, McDermott, Caroline, Bacon 66.9 05: Sant, Grant, Brown, Featherby (Ret) 67.9 06: Sampson, McDermott, Collins, Saunders 67.1 07: McDermott, Fullerton, Close, Mildoon 67.2 08: Brown, Collins, Bacon, Caroline (f) 66.2 09: Featherby, Fullerton, McDermott, Sant 67.0 10: Sampson, Close, Fullerton, Collins (ef) 67.6 11: Brown, McDonald, McDermott, Bacon 66.1 12: Sampson, McDermott, Sant, Fullerton 67.2 13: McDonald, Featherby, Brown, Close 66.9 Match rerun due to contaminated fuel. Edited October 24, 2009 by steve19620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thanks again for all the help much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Still in 1980 can anyone help out with the following please ? The yearbook for 1980 has a couple of errors. For Stoke against Oxford on 7th Sept (League) the yearbook only lists the scores for 6 riders (Burton, Boyle, North, Sawyer, Stead & Lightfoot) who have a combined score of 36. Does anyone know who the 7th rider was and the rides-points-bonus points they scored ? For Reading against Cradley on 12th May (challenge) the yearbook again only lists the scores for 6 riders (Davis, Leigh, Andersson, Briggs, Stancl & Ashby) who have a combined score of 38. I think the missing rider is Bobby Schwartz but can anyone confirm that (or name the missing rider) and give his score ? Edited October 30, 2009 by frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve19620 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Here's the info you need: The missing Reading rider was indeed Bobby Schwartz who scored 8 and 2 bonus points from 4 rides. For Stoke it's Mike Wilding who scored 5 and 1 bonus from 3 rides. regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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